Royal guard video kicking child in the way

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I wasn't born and raised in the UK and am not into the culture of 'tradition' but I don't understand the majority of reactions to this video blaming the parent and saying of the guards 'it's their job'.

Can anyone more enlightened explain to me why this was necessary? As far as I can see the guard is marching, not saving London from attack. I don't see why a side-step wouldn't work. And if this is a register thing then maybe future control of how close members of the public are able to get in their path

www.indy100.com/viral/queen-royal-guard-trampled-kid-tiktok-video-b1983965

@TheFairyCaravan

This isn’t fancy dress or tradition. This is defence. These are real soldiers with loaded weapons.

Who are they defending?

@mathanxiety And in what parallel universe does someone actually post the phrase 'merely knocked over' when you have seen a grown man marching at a smart pace plough into a child and knock him onto a hard paved surface under his feet?

No parallel universe. A child (not an infant, not a young child) was knocked over when said grown man was doing his job. That is what happened.

The drama on the thread

Have we had if that was my child I would be doing the same to the soldier yet

No doubt agents are searching for this family to represent them so they can earn money from such drama loving audience

@mathanxiety So put up barriers, don't let the terrorists get close to the targets, disguised as tourists, and make sure no members of the public are injured or worse in the name of 'security'.

Because some stupid parent couldn't keep their child out of harms way? Don't be so daft.

@mathanxiety. No, it's called parenting as I said in a previous comment in respect of my own children who each have learning disabilities.

you can see the guard tried hard to side step when he noticed the child at the very last second,

If this Guard only noticed the child at the very last second, then I think he needs to be relieved of his duties on grounds of blindness.

Yes parents should control their children but it's inevitable that some won't, and that should be planned for.

I'm no specialist, but I'm struggling to see why forcing active soldiers to wear uniforms that impede their vision and inviting crowds of potential terrorists along to film their entire strict, undeviating routine so that they can take it home to study makes for great security.

A small black child is brutally kicked out of the way, quite pointlessly, by two British soldiers armed with guns performing a pointless piece of theatre in fancy dress in front of dozens of tourists. That's how it looks.

Actually that's quite plainly not how it looks at all and anyone who has watched it properly will know that. There was 'no 'brutally kicking him out of the way.' whatsoever. That is nothing more than a deliberately inciteful lie.

Let's say hypothetically that you had been a witness to this in person, and a court case was brought where you were asked to give evidence.

Given that your evidence would be heard in addition to a jury seeing the video we've all watched, then given that your evidence would be in a addition the video we've all seen, would you stand in a court of law and swear on oath that you saw this child being brutally kicked out of the way?

I suggest you would not, because you know it would make you look like an hysterical nutter at best and a liar at worst.

So don't pull that of shit here.

@TheFairyCaravan
The Guard shouted “make way”, the child didn’t.
The adult thing to do - given that this isn’t actually a high risk war zone or anything even closely resembling it in the slightest- would have been to stop until the small child has moved/been moved. If tourists/kids encroaching is a regularly interfering with their marching then obviously the whole thing needs a rethink.

Who are the defending?

The Crown jewels.

I hope the guard doesn't face any disciplinary action because of this stupid parent and child.

@Coronawireless

A certain type of person takes on this “guard” role it would seem.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by this, but my brother did this job for a short while and he's lovely.

@dustandfluf
I hope the guard doesn't face any disciplinary action because of this stupid parent and child.

Do you apply the same logic to children hit by reckless drivers? “Well, they should have been there should they?”. Moronic logic.

and if the primary purpose isn't theatre for tourists, perhaps consider updating the archaic expression "make way" to something a modern non-native speaker might understand more easily?

[quote supermoonrising]@dustandfluf
I hope the guard doesn't face any disciplinary action because of this stupid parent and child.

Do you apply the same logic to children hit by reckless drivers? “Well, they should have been there should they?”. Moronic logic.[/quote]
Yeah, that's a fair comparison

Because some stupid parent couldn't keep their child out of harms way? Don't be so daft.

No, because crowds of tourists are an ideal cover for terrorists.

You are all so concerned about security, and excusing this appalling, inexcusable decision on the part of the Guard based on the need to provide security, but at the same time you can't understand that if you're the team providing the actual security in the CCTV room it's hard to identify and keep your eye on a terrorist in a bustling crowd.

Well as a person I try not to get in the way of people especially those with rifles! It's something I will also teach my children!

The guard shouted for them to get out the way and they didn't so the guard on active duty is not in the wrong here.

So the child stepped in the way knowing full well the guards were approaching? Dont have sympathy for that and hope he learns his lesson for being so stupid. This isn't a toddler or something, he looks old enough to know better.

@mathanxiety

This is defence. These are real soldiers with loaded weapons. It’s about time people realised that. You make way for them, not the other way round.

So put up barriers, don't let the terrorists get close to the targets, disguised as tourists, and make sure no members of the public are injured or worse in the name of 'security'.

Agree - this would be a sensible solution, which is used in other countries.

@BlackCatz
Of course it’s a fair comparison. Or is there some velocity/rule where it’s okay for an adult to recklessly knock down a child VS others where not acceptable? Please explain. If this were a high risk war zone of course the rules might be different, but the presence of hordes of camera clutching tourists with high street shopping bags suggests that’s not the case here,

Fully agree parents were at fault here. These are armed guards carrying live ammunition..

[quote supermoonrising]@dustandfluf
I hope the guard doesn't face any disciplinary action because of this stupid parent and child.

Do you apply the same logic to children hit by reckless drivers? “Well, they should have been there should they?”. Moronic logic.[/quote]
The guard bumped into him FFS, not mount the pavement in a 4x4 and crush him under his wheels!!!!

@mathanxiety

This is defence. These are real soldiers with loaded weapons. It’s about time people realised that. You make way for them, not the other way round.

So put up barriers, don't let the terrorists get close to the targets, disguised as tourists, and make sure no members of the public are injured or worse in the name of 'security'.

Nope. Keep yourself and your kids out of the way of real soldiers who are on duty with loaded weapons. When they shout “make way” bloody well move then incidents like this won’t happen.

Keep your kids out of the way of armed troops doing their job.

[quote supermoonrising]@BlackCatz
Of course it’s a fair comparison. Or is there some velocity/rule where it’s okay for an adult to recklessly knock down a child VS others where not acceptable? Please explain. If this were a high risk war zone of course the rules might be different, but the presence of hordes of camera clutching tourists with high street shopping bags suggests that’s not the case here,[/quote]
You're comparing someone who was tripped doing their job, to someone who drives recklessly and dangerously on purpose.