Royal guard video kicking child in the way

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I wasn't born and raised in the UK and am not into the culture of 'tradition' but I don't understand the majority of reactions to this video blaming the parent and saying of the guards 'it's their job'.

Can anyone more enlightened explain to me why this was necessary? As far as I can see the guard is marching, not saving London from attack. I don't see why a side-step wouldn't work. And if this is a register thing then maybe future control of how close members of the public are able to get in their path

www.indy100.com/viral/queen-royal-guard-trampled-kid-tiktok-video-b1983965

Too bad, @Nubfeary, that all the war, and fuzzy feelings have now been swept away.

All that mystique - >poof< ... gone...

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@Raioush
The number of brits totally okay with this is extremely gross. Second worst country worldwide

*warm and fuzzy

@mathanxiety

Too bad, *@Nubfeary*, that all the war, and fuzzy feelings have now been swept away.

All that mystique - >poof< ... gone...

BECOME UNGOVERNABLE
@Raioush
The number of brits totally okay with this is extremely gross. Second worst country worldwide

Oh dear, you mean people who think like you won't visit the U.K., what a shame. Oh well.

@ViceLikeBlip

Also, whatever happened to accidents? You know, those unpredictable things that are anyone's "fault"?!

Everything now is someone else's fault, aside from the person themselves of course.

@TrashyPanda

Try crossing a road during an Orange March.

Makes that look a kiss on the cheek!

I agree the parents should have kept their kid out of the way.

Or Lewes high street on Nov 5th during one of the bonfire processions!

I have a relative who was in the Irish Guards and who regularly guarded the Palace. He would have had to shoot to kill in certain scenarios. You really are showing your ignorance.

Ask your relative how marching at predictable times along a predictable route enhances the security of HMQ or her property. I know they carry weapons. I also know they are trained to stare straight ahead while standing still for hours, and march in straight lines.

Ask your relative why the public are permitted to wander in areas deemed so badly in need of protection that soldiers ready to kill without hesitation patrol it (in predictable patterns, mind).

Ask your relative how the man recently apprehended at Windsor carrying a bow and arrow was first noticed.

They are trained not to stop. Unfortunately there are people who would use their children as distractions for crime and terrorism (hence why children are subject to protocols at airports for example). They ignore their own family...I have you seen the videos of soldiers fainting and falling off horses and the other parade soldiers ignoring them (and the spotters running out to retrieve them?)

@WheelOnTheBus

The soldier doesn’t kick the child out of his way. The child stands in his way and is knocked over. The fact that the child was in their way to be knocked over is the fault of the parents.

The Queens Guard aren’t a tourist attraction. They’re professional soldiers who are doing their duty.

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I suspect because when their period of guard duty is over, they march back to barracks. Duh!

I have seen the fainting, the soldiers lying face down while the show goes on.

It's so quintessentially 'stiff upper lip'.

But trampling a child in the name of tradition or duty or some greater good is not any of that.

It's ugly and it's heartless, and it's something that more British people should find repulsive.

OP you really don't get it, do you?

Terrorists are not above using a child as a distraction. It would be unacceptable for this serving soldier on duty to break step/be distracted from doing their job, only to avoid tripping over a child who should not be standing in their way. It takes 1 second of distraction for a terrorist to grab a weapon and do something far worse and these soldiers are highly trained to not react.

@HunterGatherer

I think it stinks (and I have family serving in the army). If you swapped that uniform for a police officers there would be absolute outrage.

If you swapped that uniform for a police uniform they'd be carrying loaded semi-automatic firearms. Would you let your child get in their way whilst they were doing their job of protecting the public? I certainly wouldn't.

I don't think people take the queen's guards seriously because they're 'dressed up'. They are armed guards doing their job. You wanna hang around people carrying loaded guns with your kids, you keep your kids under control.

Ask your relative how marching at predictable times along a predictable route enhances the security of HMQ or her property.

Ha. This is one thing you see. There will tons of other cogs turning behind the scenes. Ever occur to you this is just a big distraction so that other parts of the guard can be doing important duties without tourists getting in their way?

@mathanxiety

I have seen the fainting, the soldiers lying face down while the show goes on.

It's so quintessentially 'stiff upper lip'.

But trampling a child in the name of tradition or duty or some greater good is not any of that.

It's ugly and it's heartless, and it's something that more British people should find repulsive.

Man tries to step around child but child moves at same time and it doesn't quite work out, child is fine and then man goes back to check child is okay, and they are. Yes absolutely repulsive, out of everything going on in this country and globally this I just find disgusting.

His brother pushed him in front of them - You can see the older boy backing away as it happens. How else would the boy be on a forward roll.

You wanna hang around people carrying loaded guns with your kids, you keep your kids under control.

You wanna let the public wander in an area where armed, real soldiers are carrying out a thoroughly professional mission, and you feel that the level of threat is such that the patrols and the arms are warranted, maybe put up barriers and keep the public from getting in the way of the very important work they're doing, while at the same time reducing the possibility of a terrorist getting close to HMQ or her jewels, or whatever?

Fixed that for ya.

The child walks into the path of the soldier who shouts "make way" then knocks him over and steps over him. The child shouldn't have been standing where he was. And was old enough to know better.

@mathanxiety you’ve been posting about this for 7 hours straight. Why? Kid stood in wrong place, got knocked over, that’s it , why on earth do you care so much?

"Ask your relative how marching at predictable times along a predictable route enhances the security of HMQ or her property".

Ha. This is one thing you see. There will tons of other cogs turning behind the scenes. Ever occur to you this is just a big distraction so that other parts of the guard can be doing important duties without tourists getting in their way?

Let me get this straight.
You direct guards to march in formation at predictable times along predictable routes, wearing inexplicable costumes, outside a castle or some palace or some important national treasure/target, and this spectacle attracts hundreds of thousands of tourists every year, some of whom may well be terrorists in disguise.

It's not a cunning distraction. They are literally generating a cover for terrorists. Way to think things through, British security geniuses.

People say they're armed soldiers as though that means they can't walk round someone or stop. The stupid marching they do is just for show. It clearly isn't about protecting the queen. I'm with you op.

The MOD police who guard navel harbours, factories that make nukes and probably tonnes of other things manage to do it without trampling people. If the soldiers in this video are less well trained than them, perhaps the police should take over the role. “Guarding the queen” when she is insider a castle and no way near them is not a reasonable reason to plow through a child. They need retraining or replacing.

Kid stood in wrong place, got knocked over, that’s it , why on earth do you care so much?

I am here because I am gobsmacked at the number of people here who don't give a rat's ass that a child was trampled by a grown man.

I have often got the impression both in the UK in person and online here that there is a really deep streak of authoritarianism in Britain, and this thread confirms that.

Would you prefer they stop for the child and then a terrorist uses this as a chance to attack?

If they stop for one child they'll be expected to stop for everyone who gets in their way.

The guard DID NOT kick the child, either deliberately or accidentally. The child stood in his path at the last second and got knocked over. The soldier stepped over him without missing a beat.

They are very highly trained to not allow deliberate distraction tactics to put them off their job. They are in a state of high alert and hyper vigilance while it looks to you as if they are 'just marching.'

If they politely side stepped every person who stood in their path or stopped what they were doing even for a moment to faff around apoligising for something that was some dim tourist's fault then they'd be pretty crap at protecting anyone or anything from a potential terrorist attack or assassination attempt.

@mathanxiety

Kid stood in wrong place, got knocked over, that’s it , why on earth do you care so much?

I am here because I am gobsmacked at the number of people here who don't give a rat's ass that a child was trampled by a grown man.

I have often got the impression both in the UK in person and online here that there is a really deep streak of authoritarianism in Britain, and this thread confirms that.

I'm sure you've said before you live in America, haven't you got things closer to home to worry about?