Royal guard video kicking child in the way

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I wasn't born and raised in the UK and am not into the culture of 'tradition' but I don't understand the majority of reactions to this video blaming the parent and saying of the guards 'it's their job'.

Can anyone more enlightened explain to me why this was necessary? As far as I can see the guard is marching, not saving London from attack. I don't see why a side-step wouldn't work. And if this is a register thing then maybe future control of how close members of the public are able to get in their path

www.indy100.com/viral/queen-royal-guard-trampled-kid-tiktok-video-b1983965

My son is in the entertainment business and I cannot believe some of the things he tells me involving the general public. At one time he was doing some costume work for a big sporting event when a drunk woman walked up to him and punched him as hard as she could in the stomach and really knocked the wind outta him and the group she was with walked away laughing. 🤬 Some parents take huge risks with their kids placing them on fences/ barriers so they can get a better view of a show, seriously on days out some members of the public get so carried away 'in the moment' that the common sense they left home with totally disappears... then when the big, bad man requests that they take their DC down from the barrier etc out come the cameras to film.

A lot of ignorance on this thread. @mathanxiety maybe your family weren’t soldiers on the ground or you have some other issue with them, but they are the ones putting their lives on the line when it’s called for. They deserve respect, not spoken about like that.

Kids are used in war zones to distract soldiers. We are not in a war zone as some have said, but we are massively targeted by terrorists. The soldier would be in big trouble if he deviated from his step. The boy didn’t seem hurt. Just a few points there.

Also someone mentioned perfect parents whose children never ran out onto the road? As the parent are you not meant to catch them before the car hits? It’s not a good argument.

If you have family that were in the military I'm sure they are delighted that you seem to refer to all guardsmen as buffoons.
How exactly did you come to that conclusion?

All of my family members who served are now dead.

I came to the conclusion that the Guardsmen who walked straight into a stationary child in their path after roaring out an incomprehensible order were buffoons by observing their conduct: all common sense and sense of propriety - indeed all sense of humanity - has clearly been trained right out of them. Hence 'buffoons'. They did not think or feel at the moment when they should have been thinking and feeling. This is the opposite of what you want in anyone in a protective role.

They are not in a combat situation. They could have stepped aside or stepped around the child. Score one for the Monarchy in that case, much as the Queen did in the James Bond sequence of the Olympic Games opening ceremony in 2012.

1.2 million views all over the world of this appalling incident have called a lot into question about Britain, and about the Monarch and the trappings of Monarchy the Guards are allegedly protecting. They did the Monarch no favours when they walked into that child.

@TrashyPanda

Try crossing a road during an Orange March.

Makes that look a kiss on the cheek!

I agree the parents should have kept their kid out of the way.

Oh WoW TrashyPanda, you are really showing your prejudices there, and your affiliations! I will not be drawn on this anymore than that.

I initially thought you were talking about a little one, but the child looks old enough to me to know he was in their way.

From what I've seen of the US armed forces and police some people stand need making such a fuss about a child being stepped over

Wait til you find out about the Paras in Northern Ireland, OP

@mathanxiety
It was not an incomprehensible order. I could hear it clearly.

You would hear the guard coming before you saw them. The boots make a hell of a noise.

The mother came from the side of the video when the boy was on the ground so nowhere near her son when the incident occurred.

Professional soldiers must definitely not buffoons doing their job.

Parent and child at fault.
Child was fine.No harm done. Feel free to continue with the dramatic OTT posts tho.

@mathanxiety

If you have family that were in the military I'm sure they are delighted that you seem to refer to all guardsmen as buffoons. How exactly did you come to that conclusion?

All of my family members who served are now dead.

I came to the conclusion that the Guardsmen who walked straight into a stationary child in their path after roaring out an incomprehensible order were buffoons by observing their conduct: all common sense and sense of propriety - indeed all sense of humanity - has clearly been trained right out of them. Hence 'buffoons'. They did not think or feel at the moment when they should have been thinking and feeling. This is the opposite of what you want in anyone in a protective role.

They are not in a combat situation. They could have stepped aside or stepped around the child. Score one for the Monarchy in that case, much as the Queen did in the James Bond sequence of the Olympic Games opening ceremony in 2012.

1.2 million views all over the world of this appalling incident have called a lot into question about Britain, and about the Monarch and the trappings of Monarchy the Guards are allegedly protecting. They did the Monarch no favours when they walked into that child.

Oh the drama! Yes soldiers have to follow protocol, personally I can see why that's important, if you can't then...I don't think anyone can help you see that. 'Appaling incident' my arse. Largely Americans on social media have been dripping about it, well where do we start there eh.

@mathanxiety maybe your family weren’t soldiers on the ground or you have some other issue with them, but they are the ones putting their lives on the line when it’s called for. They deserve respect, not spoken about like that.

They did indeed have boots on the ground, with one pair of boots in the air. They would have joined me in calling the men involved in the spectacle buffoons, taking themselves and their orders so seriously that they trampled a child. Blindly following orders when there is absolutely no pressing need is something the British armed forces once criticised in other people's armed forces.

My father, uncle, and grandfather had plenty to say about the foibles of the British forces and those who led it at the time they served, as do most who have served down through the centuries. It's neither necessary nor desirable in a democratic state to insist that nothing the forces do should be questioned.

[quote mathanxiety]@mathanxiety maybe your family weren’t soldiers on the ground or you have some other issue with them, but they are the ones putting their lives on the line when it’s called for. They deserve respect, not spoken about like that.

They did indeed have boots on the ground, with one pair of boots in the air. They would have joined me in calling the men involved in the spectacle buffoons, taking themselves and their orders so seriously that they trampled a child. Blindly following orders when there is absolutely no pressing need is something the British armed forces once criticised in other people's armed forces.

My father, uncle, and grandfather had plenty to say about the foibles of the British forces and those who led it at the time they served, as do most who have served down through the centuries. It's neither necessary nor desirable in a democratic state to insist that nothing the forces do should be questioned.[/quote]
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

So many pp have given you valid reasons for the action taken by the guardsman.

What is it you don't understand or more aptly don't want to understand?

Whatever, I'm done.

Nowadays this is a big part of the problem, instead of the message being 'keep your eye on your children if in a foreign country/any time' it seems to be 'change how you do x because I can't be arsed to take any personal responsibility'.

Yes soldiers have to follow protocol, personally I can see why that's important, if you can't then...I don't think anyone can help you see that.

What practical purpose related to their alleged guard duties is achieved by marching in a straight line, head up, eyes front?

What practical purpose related to their alleged guard duties was achieved by marching in a straight line, head up, eyes front, and trampling a child?

What is the purpose of the sacred protocol here?

Largely Americans on social media have been dripping about it, well where do we start there eh

So you don't see that this incident which tarnishes the reputation of the Crown, whose properties the Guards are allegedly there to protect, is a problem?
In the context of the conduct of a Prince of the Realm and his friendship with two felons convicted of sex crimes against minors, you can't see the coldhearted trampling of a child as a problem?
The Coldstream Guards in their quaint, impractical, olde Englishe uniforms march around the Tower of London and stand still in their pillboxes while tourists tickle their noses with feathers in order to show the friendly side of British power and the lovably quirky nature of Britain, and you can't see how suddenly revealing themselves to be about as friendly as a tiger loose in the zoo is a problem?

You seem to think that Britain doesn't need the income American tourists contribute to the economy either.

So many pp have given you valid reasons for the action taken by the guardsman.

There is no valid reason to march straight into a child. Ever.

Nowadays this is a big part of the problem, instead of the message being 'keep your eye on your children if in a foreign country/any time' it seems to be 'change how you do x because I can't be arsed to take any personal responsibility'.

Yeah, because everyone could predict that human beings would do what the pair of Guardsmen did to the child.

Maybe the family of the child comes from a civilised country where putting on a uniform doesn't absolve you of the necessity for taking personal responsibility as an adult human being, or the requirement to think instead of blindly following protocol.

@mathanxiety

Yes soldiers have to follow protocol, personally I can see why that's important, if you can't then...I don't think anyone can help you see that.

What practical purpose related to their alleged guard duties is achieved by marching in a straight line, head up, eyes front?

What practical purpose related to their alleged guard duties was achieved by marching in a straight line, head up, eyes front, and trampling a child?

What is the purpose of the sacred protocol here?

Largely Americans on social media have been dripping about it, well where do we start there eh

So you don't see that this incident which tarnishes the reputation of the Crown, whose properties the Guards are allegedly there to protect, is a problem?
In the context of the conduct of a Prince of the Realm and his friendship with two felons convicted of sex crimes against minors, you can't see the coldhearted trampling of a child as a problem?
The Coldstream Guards in their quaint, impractical, olde Englishe uniforms march around the Tower of London and stand still in their pillboxes while tourists tickle their noses with feathers in order to show the friendly side of British power and the lovably quirky nature of Britain, and you can't see how suddenly revealing themselves to be about as friendly as a tiger loose in the zoo is a problem?

You seem to think that Britain doesn't need the income American tourists contribute to the economy either.

Hahaha behave. No I don't see any correlation between a fuckwit of a parent not keeping their eyes on their child and Prince Andrew. Also no one is forced to go onto the grounds, its not a regular path that people are walking down and get unexpectedly trampled on. No I don't think the country would miss money from a teeny tiny portion of Americans who are ranting away on twitter.

This is on the parents. Keep an eye on your kid. There was no kicking. But I guess you wanted a clickbait title.

@mathanxiety

Nowadays this is a big part of the problem, instead of the message being 'keep your eye on your children if in a foreign country/any time' it seems to be 'change how you do x because I can't be arsed to take any personal responsibility'.

Yeah, because everyone could predict that human beings would do what the pair of Guardsmen did to the child.

Maybe the family of the child comes from a civilised country where putting on a uniform doesn't absolve you of the necessity for taking personal responsibility as an adult human being, or the requirement to think instead of blindly following protocol.

The irony of your last sentence is too much, honestly you must be being goady on purpose with that line- the child is American aren't they? And yes if you stand in the square there is every chance you will be in the way and should move, people should realise the world doesn't revolve around them, crazy concept I know.

So much fucking drama and hyperbole

Some idiot parent let her son block the path of an on duty soldier who tripped and then stepped over said son. Not a toddler either.

No trampling, stomping or any of the other over emotive verbs used by some over invested posters.

If some Americans are put off coming to the uk then I'd call that a win all round

Probably the first time the kid has had a consequence.

He's learned a lesson about being aware of surroundings and not getting in the way.

The child was NOT kicked out of the way if you look carefully at the footage. The youngster wasn't a toddler but much older, and shouldn't have been there. He fell as the guard got there and the guard stepped over him. No harm done, hopefully the child has learned a lesson.

No, the guards should not have deviated. They are on duty and run to orders. I used to live near Windsor Castle some years ago, and I regularly took friends and family there....the guards are on duty and march around the grounds all the time. For anyone in the way, they bark out an order in advance, it's so loud it makes you jump if they come up behind you! They do not stop and do not deviate. Ever. Regular tourists start to realise the guards are working, the weapons are loaded and they can't spend their days side-stepping gawping visitors.

@WheelOnTheBus

The soldier doesn’t kick the child out of his way. The child stands in his way and is knocked over. The fact that the child was in their way to be knocked over is the fault of the parents.

The Queens Guard aren’t a tourist attraction. They’re professional soldiers who are doing their duty.

This!

No I don't see any correlation between a fuckwit of a parent not keeping their eyes on their child and Prince Andrew.

I wasn't pointing out a correlation there.

I was pointing out that the RF needs all the good publicity it can get right now.

There is no kick and he does his best not to actually stamp on the kid.

What do you imagine would happen, how would it work if they DID react to people getting in their way, taunting, trying to make them deviate path - all things people, both children and adults, routinely do for shits and giggles and stupid tiktok/youtube/facebook videos?

It'd be chaos.

They're there to do a job, its widely understood you move out of their way, that they won't react or break stride, no one going to see them does not know this. It really doesn't matter if you think the job they do is silly or irrelevant!

I don't think it has anything to do with tradition, it's just that this is an armed soldier. If any armed soldier is coming towards you I think you need to get out of the way.

It's hard to see what happens, if the child jumps out or just stands there, but from what I can see it looks like the soldier tries to step around the boy to the right, but they collide and the boy falls down to the left.

I can see that tourists are getting a bit confused, thinking that they are just dressed up guides/attractions and not taking it seriously. Perhaps there should be a warning for visitors .