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Christmas morning Covid test being demanded

859 replies

Quarks69 · 22/12/2021 08:27

Is everyone else having these? My sister in law has demanded this from my side of the family as her elderly parents are going to be at the dinner. With a family of five and three are my busy teens I am worried that we could end up with no xmas day if one of us is asymptomatic (for the second year running obvs).

I do get that we are in bonkers times, but Was so looking Forward to seeing everyone, including my parents, that this is making me cross...isn’t this the point of the jabs!?

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Fimilo · 22/12/2021 10:32

I will be testing, my husband and daughter before going to my parents for xmas dinner. What she is asking is not unreasonable

PoleFairy · 22/12/2021 10:32

@x2boys but any illness is far worse in elderly/vulnerable! If you woke up with a slight sniffle and had a negative lateral flow would you not go to where you were planning on spending Christmas? Have you never in your life visited someone elderly whilst you felt less than 100% because if you did you were putting them at risk.

My granny died in January (years ago now) of pneumonia. People dont wake up with pneumonia one morning, it develops from a virus. I suspect someone, at some point over xmas, saw her whilst they had a mild cold or sniffle and for her it was fatal. We have never all sat around trying to work out who passed her this virus, who killed her. It's part of life. All this lateral flowing is starting to feel like playing god. 7 people have died of omicron with an average age of 83. I strongly suspect in the same time frame more people have died from common cold/flu type viruses

Somebodylikeyew · 22/12/2021 10:34

JFC.
You are being so unreasonable. Your SIL is cooking you dinner and hosting you on xmas day, and all she wants is to try and protect her elderly parents.
Do the bloody tests.

MumW · 22/12/2021 10:34

For the record.

Day 1: Woke with sore throat. Tested negative. Slight cough in the evening.
Day 2: Cold symptoms plus some coughing. Tested Negative
Day 3: Tested Positive. Got PCR. Went into isolation
Day 4: PCR came back positive.

RisingStarsToday · 22/12/2021 10:35

@Thatsplentyjack

Hang on, you don't want to test incase one of you is asymptomatic? So you want to live in ignorant bliss and go spread covid to her elderly parents so you can all have a lovely christmas day?
This!!! Seems like she is right to ask for test given you don’t seem to care about spreading covid to her family @Quarks69
worriedatthemoment · 22/12/2021 10:36

I think of the host asks for tests then thats fair enough, my mum hasn't asked us to test as she works with public and has no idea of their status etc is how she sees it
We will test but she doesn't expect us too , my brother won't test unless he has symptoms and as my mum is ok with that then not a lot we can do

MorganKitten · 22/12/2021 10:36

If you don’t want to test, don’t go. Simple.

steppingcarefully · 22/12/2021 10:36

I requested family do this before visiting us and got the impression I was being unreasonable. I have tested positive today so all plans are ruined. There is a reason people are asking others to test. If I hadn't tested I could have infected 7 other people. You're worried you could end up with no xmas day, yes you could but that's better than infecting other people. I can't believe anyone is questioning a request for a test before mixing, especially when it involves elderly parents. It's a selfish attitude to have.

Lion1618 · 22/12/2021 10:37

I don't think you're being unreasonable. The elderly parents have been boosted right? So are as protected as they can be for now
At what point is it acceptable for anyone else to be able to say that they don't want to stick things up their noses and down their throats anymore? Do people want this life forever now as it seems that way for some? Presumably nobody can test themselves for every other virus or bacteria which can cause illness and we are carrying about.

housemaus · 22/12/2021 10:37

YABU, OP.

What you're saying is, you'd rather go even if you/someone else does have Covid, so you don't want to test. That's fine for you, and you're allowed to set your own risk level (even if I think it's a ridiculous one).

SIL has decided she doesn't want anyone positive there, jab or no jab, and has asked you to test to avoid that.

Don't go if you don't want to abide by a completely reasonable request.

anon12345678901 · 22/12/2021 10:38

@Lesserspottedmama

It’s utter nonsense, your SIL is a virtue signaller OP. Common sense prevails as to if you are well enough to be amongst people, anyone who can’t see that is a fool.
Is Covid also a hoax and those who get the vaccine sheep?
x2boys · 22/12/2021 10:38

[quote PoleFairy]@x2boys but any illness is far worse in elderly/vulnerable! If you woke up with a slight sniffle and had a negative lateral flow would you not go to where you were planning on spending Christmas? Have you never in your life visited someone elderly whilst you felt less than 100% because if you did you were putting them at risk.

My granny died in January (years ago now) of pneumonia. People dont wake up with pneumonia one morning, it develops from a virus. I suspect someone, at some point over xmas, saw her whilst they had a mild cold or sniffle and for her it was fatal. We have never all sat around trying to work out who passed her this virus, who killed her. It's part of life. All this lateral flowing is starting to feel like playing god. 7 people have died of omicron with an average age of 83. I strongly suspect in the same time frame more people have died from common cold/flu type viruses[/quote]
Not everyone who is CEV will be 83 ,my dh is 46 working full time etc
My youngest child goes to a special school and there are some very clinically vulnerable kids that attend ,tube fed on oxygen etc
Nice to know people continue to think other people's lives are somehow less than others however 🙄

NanFlanders · 22/12/2021 10:39

I've been systematically testing before every Christmas meet-up. So has everyone I've been meeting. We all want to see our elderly parents at Christmas.

Milkshake54 · 22/12/2021 10:39

But if you tested positive or a LFT you wouldn't go to work or spreading it to the unvaccinated children...
why would you knowingly go somewhere when you could spread covid?

I've just had it and whilst I think it was mild - moderate I wouldn't want my elderly, vulnerable parents to get this.

Also... I've lost my hearing. Grin

SarahWoodWould · 22/12/2021 10:39

Sounds very sensible. We are doing the same.

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/12/2021 10:40

Lesserspottedmama
It’s utter nonsense, your SIL is a virtue signaller OP. Common sense prevails as to if you are well enough to be amongst people, anyone who can’t see that is a fool.“

You’re spouting bollocks. Anyone who can’t see that is a fool.

MasterBeth · 22/12/2021 10:41

@5128gap

Obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I think the key to this at the moment is to try only to make plans with like minded people. I personally don't know anyone who would do this, but if I did, their demand would probably not have been a surprise, as I'd have noticed their caution throughout. Unlike the more militant on here, I don't think there's a right or wrong to this. People harp on about risk to the elderly and vulnerable, sometimes without taking into account the wishes of older and vulnerable people themselves, who are often ime less risk adverse than the people insisting on protecting them, and just want go see their family. As they are the ones effected, imo its their view that counts. However in your case, your SIL has the power, so its up to her.
This is a very limited view of the situation.

You don't get a pass on testing or precautions because your elderley granny says she's prepared to take the risk.

If you are carrying Omicron unknowingly (i.e. asymptomatically) you're not just putting granny at risk. You are likely to infect between 4 and 5 people in total. They are likely to infect 4 or 5 people. Each of them is likely to infect 4 or 5 people.

That's how we get in an exponential spiral.

Any testing you do helps prevent the spread to your whole family, neighbourhood, city, country.

celiamary · 22/12/2021 10:41

We are deliberately not asking our visitors to test.
We have no elderly parents left. No babies. We are all adults, all fully jabbed. One is a nurse.
We are going to have Christmas as planned.
Up to now we have gone along with all rules and we will do so again after Jan1st.

LaForza101 · 22/12/2021 10:42

But surely you don't want to pass on any illness even if it isn't going to kill anyone? If I knew I had a bad cold I wouldn't go spreading it around at work (yes being fortunate enough to have the choice) and I certainly wouldn't visit relatives at Christmas if I had flu-like symptoms. The only difference here is you could be asymptomatic so you take a test to see if you are contagious. Why does this grim country want to go back to unhygienic practices of spreading microbes everywhere?

edwinbear · 22/12/2021 10:42

And my DC missed out on the panto. We tested all of us before we met up with friends to go, all asymptotic at the time, but obviously it was the right thing to do. DD, DH and I all tested positive so thank God we did - the number of people we could have infected sat in a theatre for 2.5hrs is frightening. DC were disappointed, (as were DH and I and our friends), but they completely understand why we tested and that we couldn’t possibly go after 3 of us were positive. Sadly, this is not the first time Covid has disrupted plans, so DC ‘get it’.

kickupafuss · 22/12/2021 10:43

I hope we will be doing this although I've yet to ask the hosts. I test regularly for work. One morning my lateral flow test was negative but I took a PCR test at 3pm because I had been a close contact and that eventually came back positive. I took a lateral flow test the next morning and it went positive straight away. No symptoms until that evening.

It's not much to ask someone to do.

MasterBeth · 22/12/2021 10:43

@Lion1618

I don't think you're being unreasonable. The elderly parents have been boosted right? So are as protected as they can be for now At what point is it acceptable for anyone else to be able to say that they don't want to stick things up their noses and down their throats anymore? Do people want this life forever now as it seems that way for some? Presumably nobody can test themselves for every other virus or bacteria which can cause illness and we are carrying about.
Which other viruses that we are carryong about are both this infectious and this dangerous?

I really cannot comprehend how, after nearly two years of this GLOBAL PANDEMIC, people are still peddling this dumb-arse ignorant shit.

RonaLisa · 22/12/2021 10:43

OP this is a daft question to put the MN jury, most of whom think we should be testing ourselves before we talk to someone via Zoom.

nwatty · 22/12/2021 10:44

I think most sensible people are doing this in a bid to spend Christmas together and not put their vulnerable family members at risk. We are testing daily until we leave and all adults at my inlaws will be testing daily whilst there and all will be going home if anyone tests positive.

drspouse · 22/12/2021 10:44

I went to the office yesterday and my DM is coming today. DH went to the GP yesterday. We both tested yesterday morning and we'll test again tonight in prep for my DB and family coming for lunch tomorrow.

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