to go to a yoga class when my daughter has covid

[Itsnotdeep]

I have no symptoms. I have numerous negative lateral flow tests.

I'm interested in what other people are doing. (Btw I did a virtual class today and didn't go, but I really missed it).

@Itsnotdeep

I suppose I kind of think that a CEV person won't be in the yoga class. They're more likely to be in the supermarket.

WTAF? Why wouldn't they be in yoga class? You do realise that a number of people that had to shield lived otherwise perfectly normal lives, until covid came along?

Legally you can go.

Morally you shouldn’t.

I prbably wouldn't go to yoga either but I do have a slightly different perspective as I'm a teacher and if someone in my household had covid I would still be required to work. All day with 30 children and at least 2 other adults in close proximity. With mask, but without mask eating at lunchtime (and no guidance to eat alone etc).
Although I wear the mask all day while I'm teaching it's not foolproof - sometimes I pull it down if someone can't hear me or if I'm explaining something that requires seeing my lips move, or if my nose is tickly...also take it off for acup of tea or to go to the toilet at breaktime and don't always change to a clean mask afterwards...it would driveme insane if I policed all these micro decisions daily.
So I would be pretty annoyed if it was deemed ok to carry on working but miss out all the things that keep me going.

@duopuss81
'Triple jabbing isn’t better than double jabbing though. It’s just bringing up dropped levels to what they were with two jabs - nothing’s changed'

That's not true, we have a new variant. And the current situation is that if you are triple jabbed you are much more protected. I also don't think the science supports the theory that you are essentially topping back up to the level you previously were protected from the two jabs. I think you are more protected after three jabs than you were back when you had just had your two jabs.

@Duopuss81 why has it ruined their Christmas, if they are tripled jabbed they could still meet, I don't see why you would avoid seeing family when being triple jabbed it's essentially a cold. Yes it is different it one of them is vunerable, but like I say, we can't stop our daily lives to protect this minority. If the people in her yoga class were that worried about catching it because they might pass is onto vunerable family members surely they wouldn't be going to the class this week?

Everyone is more than likely going to catch this new variant at some point very soon anyway. I'm not sure why everyone assumes it's worse for people who have caught covid to not be able to see vunerable people at Christmas, as opposed to say in January - which is well known to already be the most depressing time of the year!

[quote JellyOnAPlatewithicecream]@BellaChagall I don't think anyone is saying it's just a cold if you're unvaccinated..[/quote]
And absolutely nobody with any authority (so scientists etc) are saying it's just a cold/mild if you are, either. They just don't know enough yet.
I think everybody is hoping it is, though!

@AnotherOneWithNoGoodName they are saying it's much more likely to be mild if you are triple jabbed

Lateral flow tests aren't particularly accurate anyway, so if people are particularly worried about passing it to vunerable family members on Xmas day they probably shouldn't visit anyway, unless they can get a PCR on Xmas Eve and totally isolate until then. My Christmas has pretty much already been ruined as all the things I was looking forward to doing in the run up has been cancelled.

[quote JellyOnAPlatewithicecream]@Duopuss81 why has it ruined their Christmas, if they are tripled jabbed they could still meet, I don't see why you would avoid seeing family when being triple jabbed it's essentially a cold. Yes it is different it one of them is vunerable, but like I say, we can't stop our daily lives to protect this minority. If the people in her yoga class were that worried about catching it because they might pass is onto vunerable family members surely they wouldn't be going to the class this week?[/quote]
It’s ruined their Christmas because she’s given it to them and they are all now ill in bed and isolating despite being triple jabbed!!

I know can technically.
It’s a bit of a dilemma though isn’t it because the fact is there’s a high chance you might get it, and you could pass it on to someone else there and ruin their Christmas plans.

On the other hand it everywhere at the moment and someone CEV or desperate to avoid it before Xmas probably wouldn’t go to a yoga class.

If anyone there knows about your daughter I wouldn’t go as I think they may judge you.

If not… and you are reasonably distanced there and there are masks etc then if it’s very important for your mental health and you feel fine and negative lft then yes I think I might go.

@duopuss81 I mean I've had a fair few Christmas' ruined from being ill with a cold / sore throat.. probably given to me by someone at work / on a bus / in a shop. That's not a new thing.

Firstly, it’s not just like a cold if you’re triple jabbed. Secondly, even if it was, if people keep going out and spreading it we’re about to have millions of people at home off work sick with this ‘cold’ which means closure and disruption to many essential services. I’m a teacher and our school nearly had to close because so many staff were ill. No one died, that’s not the issue this time but they were ill in bed and many are triple jabbed. It doesn’t stop the spread. It doesn’t matter if it’s norovirus, a cold, whatever - if you go out unnecessarily and spread it around you are going to make loads of people ill! Why would you?

I'd go - student daughter home for holidays - unless your home is tiny, presumably you can have a degree of isolation, it's not as if you're providing intimate care to a baby or toddler.

I met a friend for a meal and drink last night, large uncrowded restaurant - asymptomatic covid positive daughter lives at home, but isloating - friend keen to escape for a few hours; we're both fully vaccinated and boosted, and getting negative lateral flows.

[quote JellyOnAPlatewithicecream]@duopuss81 I mean I've had a fair few Christmas' ruined from being ill with a cold / sore throat.. probably given to me by someone at work / on a bus / in a shop. That's not a new thing.[/quote]

Honestly, stop it.

It's not a cold.

Everyone knows it's not a cold.

When was the last time you heard that a cold had caused 130k excess deaths in the last year?

She’ll just say “yeah but that’s before the magical triple vaccine, it’s just a cold now” 🙄

@Duopuss81
You got there before me. Yes vaccines are magical aren't they I agree. We are very lucky to have them they have saved many lives in the last century.

Now we have the double vaccine and booster it is a totally different matter to before ie. Earlier on in the year / last year. And the OP didn't say she had covid, she said her child did.

They are wonderful yes, I’ve had all mine. But they don’t stop you catching it, they don’t stop you spreading it and they don’t stop you getting ill. You will hopefully just not die! So back to the original point - if there’s a high chance you’re going to make someone ill, lay off the yoga class!

If I was a casual close contact as a vaccinated person I would be happy yo still attend.

I Don't agree that people in the same household, living in close quarters should not isolate, I can still catch it ( albeit less chance and lower impact if caught) and can still spread (albeit lower chance due to vaccine) so if my son had it I would just stay home with him. It is probably easier for us as we both wfh though.

And I get people needing to work, but unnecessary activities definitely not worth the risk of passing it on

Normally I'd say no, but this close to Xmas with the way numbers are exploding yes, you be pretty U to go somewhere confined where breathing deeply is encouraged

I know so many people now you've been positive on pcr but negative on lft. The fact they are considered reliable feels like nonsense to me.

@hedgehogger1
I agree with this! It doesn't make sense to me that some people are apparently very worried about passing covid on to vunerable family members at Christmas, but they are only planning to lateral flow tests before they go.. they give out around 30-40% false negatives, if you are that concerned about passing it on to a vunerable family member it's probably best not to see them, unless you can do a PCR and totally isolate until you see them

@Duopuss81
They make it less likely you'll catch it, less likely you'll spead it, and less likely you'll be ill enough to need to go to hospital (which is what restrictions and lockdowns are about - reducing the number of people in hospital and therefore risking NHS meltdown) and much more likely you'll have very mild symptoms at that.