Teachers!

[MsFannySqueers]

So retired/ex teachers are being asked to consider returning to the classroom because of possible staff shortages in the New Year. Is this something you would do?

stopping further gaps

Have you seen a secondary supply lesson?

You initially misinterpreted the government's plan. Perhaps wilfully, perhaps out of ignorance. I'm glad you're now aware it is for staff absence only.

I hope not. The teaching profession is on its knees. The amount of people leaving the profession due to the conditions (and the general lack of support from people who bang on about ‘moaning teachers’ and all those holidays) is dangerous. It could be something like this that could inspire change. In my workplace we can’t even recruit for subjects where normally you would be swamped, PE, Art, Media, Music…we have had some with not one application. There has been a huge issue for Maths and Science recruitment for years but this is moving to non STEM subjects. The whole system is broken.

@Hercisback

stopping further gaps

Have you seen a secondary supply lesson?

You initially misinterpreted the government's plan. Perhaps wilfully, perhaps out of ignorance. I'm glad you're now aware it is for staff absence only.

So are you going to apologise for the comprehension dig? Since you were wrong?

@Scrabblecrabapple

I hope not. The teaching profession is on its knees. The amount of people leaving the profession due to the conditions (and the general lack of support from people who bang on about ‘moaning teachers’ and all those holidays) is dangerous. It could be something like this that could inspire change. In my workplace we can’t even recruit for subjects where normally you would be swamped, PE, Art, Media, Music…we have had some with not one application. There has been a huge issue for Maths and Science recruitment for years but this is moving to non STEM subjects. The whole system is broken.

There was a really good thread a few weeks ago about how we could halt the retention problem in teaching, I’ll see if I can find it.

I wasn't wrong, your initial posts were focused on catch up. I cross posted with you when you finally acknowledged what the government plan was.

As for your insistence that a body in a room will prevent gaps, I know you're wrong there too.

@Hercisback

I wasn't wrong, your initial posts were focused on catch up. I cross posted with you when you finally acknowledged what the government plan was.

As for your insistence that a body in a room will prevent gaps, I know you're wrong there too.

You didn’t cross post, you just didn’t read it because you were so desperate to stick the boot in. Well, I guess that’s as far as we can take this conversation then!

Nothing to say about secondary supply lessons then? Or the actual quality of education?

Guessed not.

Desperation isn’t a plan.

@Hercisback

Nothing to say about secondary supply lessons then? Or the actual quality of education?

Guessed not.

Why are you so desperate for my opinion? You don’t agree, why do you care what I think?

I'm just interested to hear how you think these teachers in secondary schools will help.

😂😂😂 - no

@Hercisback

I'm just interested to hear how you think these teachers in secondary schools will help.

Why? If you think my comprehension is shit and I’m banging on?

Nobody is desperate for your opinion.

Did you ever say if you worked in primary or secondary?

Ah so you don't think it will work either. Glad we agree.

That’s what I mean. What is her point?

@swallowedAfly

Did you ever say if you worked in primary or secondary?

No, I didn’t.

@Hercisback

Ah so you don't think it will work either. Glad we agree.

I think it can’t hurt, as I said.

Righto.

How very, very odd.

@noblegiraffe

How very, very odd.

It has taken a weird turn, hasn’t it? ‘Your comprehension is shit, you’re banging on and nobody cares about your opinion but please do answer these questions’.

So that’s your point? Bringing elderly vulnerable people into the classroom unmasked can’t hurt?

How did that point see you arguing with people for pages? And don’t you think it might hurt the elderly teachers and the struggling nhs who’d have to find beds for them?

No, the odd thing is you refusing to say whether you’re primary or secondary because it makes a huge difference to these discussions.

So I'm off with covid. They get Fred, who retired recently and teaches my subject, to cover me. Great.
But he's on supply not on a contact. So he's not planning or marking. He's essentially just supervising - albeit he can answer questions.
Someone still has to plan the work and mark it. That's where my big issue with this is.
I had a chunk of time off a few years ago after a emergency op. No one had marked any of the work the students did in a month. And I didn't have the time to do it when I was back because I was catching them up on the things they hadn't done when they'd had supply.
It's no ones fault. That's how it is.

@MrsHamlet

So I'm off with covid. They get Fred, who retired recently and teaches my subject, to cover me. Great. But he's on supply not on a contact. So he's not planning or marking. He's essentially just supervising - albeit he can answer questions. Someone still has to plan the work and mark it. That's where my big issue with this is. I had a chunk of time off a few years ago after a emergency op. No one had marked any of the work the students did in a month. And I didn't have the time to do it when I was back because I was catching them up on the things they hadn't done when they'd had supply. It's no ones fault. That's how it is.

So do you think it would be better to have no Fred and the class isolate until you’re back?