To think my friend was not wrong in doing this?

[OneRuleForThem]

There has been a split between friends over this conversation, I am on the side of my friend, everyone else is on the other side, not falling out with each other but each side thinking they are right and the other is wrong.

My friend said there is a small dog in the flat above her that sounds like a chihuahua or small kind of dog or a small puppy because of the way it yelps all the time. And said the people in the (one bedroomed) flat go out all day every day of the working week and come back in the evening, but the dog barks all day because left on its own and then barks in a distressed way when they return.

So my friend said they made a call to the RSPCA (not sure if that’s who it was to I can’t remember, but some “official” group) and said she things the dog is being abused and being hit by its owners (but she didn’t really believe that). People came round when they weren’t home and heard the dog in there and then when they came back they talked to them and they eventually ended up with some sort of warning issued to them (not that that’s affected the barking though according to her).

The other side says she was completely out of order saying the dog was being abused when she didn’t think it was being but she said leaving it alone all day in a one bed flat to bark in distress and then bark in even more distress when they came home sounded abusive, and it was also abusive to her having to listening to it all day, every day (she wfh). She thinks (and I agree) that it is a form of abuse to leave a small dog all day alone and if the RSPCA or whoever had found signs of neglect then it would have helped the dog get away from its imprisonment if they had have taken it from the owners. Which side do you think is the one that is BU?

1 she should not have lied about abuse if there is none that is unfair on the owners they could have lost a much-loved pet over that
2 she should have spoken to them first before ringing the animal charity
3 some dogs do bark a lot but as I said before the first step would have been to talk to the ownerse

She lied about something that could potentially be a criminal matter, and not even because she cares about the dog because if she thought it's treatment was so abusive she could have reported it truthfully, but just because the situation was inconvenient to her and she thought lying would get the outcome she wanted.

I hope she learns to like confrontation if the accusation of hitting the dog goes to court and she's got to go up and perjure herself or make her false accusation in front of her victims.

Would you your "friend" be prepared to lie on the stand if this went to court, @OneRuleForThem?

Why didn't she just report them for what they actually do , leaving a dog all day that barks is obviously distressed
If i left mine all day he would only bark if someone was at the door

Genuine concern about the dog then yes 100% report. The lie was completely unnecessary.

Why does she think it barks in distress anyway? Those wee dogs are prone to yipping hysterically at passing pedestrians, cars, cats, birds and fucking leaves. I’d never have one myself, terrible noise. The dog is probably barking and yowling with excitement when the owners come home, not distress. The bloody pop-eyed things sound like they’re being shot.

I get it’s annoying…would piss me off. Would I make a malicious, fictitious abuse report about the owners to the RSPCA? Would I fuck. I’d speak to the owners then follow up with a noice complaint through the appropriate channels. Jesus.

She shouldn't have lied, but I would report a dog being left along all day, all week in distress.

It's abusive to leave a dog alone and in distress all day, but she should have told the owners first. They may not even have known about it.

That's not 'confrontation', it's just normal human interaction.

I have a chihuahua who barks when left alone. I was not aware she was in distress until I installed a pet camera as she very rarely barks when I'm with her. Obviously as soon as I realised I made sure my dog is not left alone (leaving her with family members etc)... the owners may not have been aware their dog is so distressed. Making up lies without notifying them, giving them a chance to rectify the situation is wrong.

It is totally out of order to leave a dog all day alone and it is abusive!The person in the flat below should have had a conversation with the dog owner.the owners of the dog are most likely unpleasant,selfish people and I doubt a conversation would make life easier for dog,however it is always worth a try.If they still leave the dog all day alone,the RSPCA should be involved,although the RSPCA quite often ignores this kind of problem,unless the dog looks in very neglected condition.there are so many shisters that really should never have a dog!

Listening to a barking dog all day would drive most people insane! Maybe hers was a moment of insanity when she lied - either way, she got action for the dog and I assume a more peaceful life.

Hi, some answers to what has been asked:

My friend said she did report it because the noise was driving her mental more than because of the concern for the dog but she still felt bad for the dog (I think that is justified??)

My friend said the dog barks all the time when the owners are out (typically 8am-ish to 6pm-ish) but then also continues barking when they come back, not just when they first come in, but when they’ve been back for hours it is still barking constantly after that time without stopping, and friend said it sounds even more distressed/scared barking when they are there of an evening compared to when they’re not of a daytime.

I don’t definitely know if it was the RSPCA she rang, she said she rang someone “official” it could have been the council or the other animal services.

@Sparklfairy
But she does like being passive aggressive and lying??

I think that’s quite unfair to say, she was not being passive aggressive, I don’t think, from the way she described it. She didn’t lie she stretched a little bit of the truth but for what would be good intentions if the puppy had have been found to be in neglect by being left on it’s own all the time.

One thing I didn’t mention originally is her upstairs neighbours moved in 6 weeks ago and are also still moving stuff in almost daily. And the continuous daily dog barking started abouts 1 or 2 weeks ago and hasn’t stopped since then so that’s why she thinks it’s a puppy they’ve just got or at least a small type of young dog like a chihuahua (but she hasn’t seen it as they haven’t taken it out from what she’s heard but she is not home all the time).

She didn’t want to speak to the owners of the dog because she is genuinely timid type of person and doesn’t like confrontation. She didn’t say “these are my upstairs neighbours and this is what I’ve heard” so i don’t think her neighbours would know it was her to those asking about retaliation/confrontation from neighbours. I can’t say how she made her concerns when she rang as it’s very specific and could be outing.

@worriedatthemoment
Why didn't she just report them for what they actually do , leaving a dog all day that barks is obviously distressed

She said she thought it was distressed because of how it was daily, all the time, without them there and then with them there. She said she said they hit him because she thought it was more likely they would come out to investigate if she said that.

She didn’t lie she stretched a little bit of the truth but for what would be good intentions if the puppy had have been found to be in neglect by being left on it’s own all the time.

Of course she lied! I can't see how you would call it anything less. You and she both know the dog isn't being hutso of course her saying it was is a lie.

From what you've said she admits the dog barks even when the owners are there so how does she know it's being left alone? It could be that the neighbours are actually home and it's barking so all of her complaint could be inaccurate.

Poor dog.

10 hours alone.

Heartbreaking.

@PinkWaferBiscuit
From what you've said she admits the dog barks even when the owners are there so how does she know it's being left alone? It could be that the neighbours are actually home

They are not home in the day, she said the neighbours leave at separate times in the morning and come home separate times in the evening and said these are work times. So they can’t be at home with the dog during the day. She said they are both at home at weekends so far

She was right to report but wrong to lie as to why she was reporting. She should have told the truth; that the dog was being left all day and showing distress all day by continuous barking and crying.
Poor dog!

She shouldn't have lied, but I do absolutely agree that leaving a dog alone all day is cruel when the dog is distressed.

She would be better making a noise complaint with the council.

The RSPCA are pretty crap and have a very high threshold for removing animals

So it barks whether they are there or not. It’s a yippy, barky dog and she doesn’t actually know if it’s in distress or not.
Your mate is a shit stirring twat.

This thread makes me sick.it is a joke when people say,Britain is a dog loving country.you only have to read this thread and know,most people are absolute cunts!

That might be true. What is certainly true is that some dogs bark a lot because they haven’t been trained not to.

False accusation making is definitely cunty.

I’ve no respect for those who make false accusations. The dog should not be left all day, that is fair comment, but she doesn’t need to make up shit about it being hit.

Your friend is a coward and a liar, I’m afraid.

So your friend lied to try and get rid of a dog? Off course your other friends called her out for it

Your friend is a liar. Not just stretching the truth a bit. She is someone who lies to try to manipulate situations to get what she wants, and likes to report to authorities rather than have normal communication. People like that are hell to live beside. Poor neighbours.