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To ask if do (or will) miss British English?

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daimbarsatemydogsbone · 10/12/2021 18:05

License plate - Number plate
Driver's license - Driving licence
Windshield - Windscreen
Envision - Envisage
Bring (instead of take)

So much British English is being replaced with the US versions.

UK courtroom dramas now feature lawyers shouting "objection!" and judges saying "sustained" - something that never actually happens in UK courts but the writers have all grown up watching US dramas and films.

I know it's inevitable but I celebrated the little differences - they seem to become fewer and fewer each year.

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Bairnsmum05 · 10/12/2021 18:07

What do you mean British English?

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 10/12/2021 18:12

I mean the usage, spellings and grammar habitually in use in the UK as opposed to the version from the USA.

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OldaRailer · 10/12/2021 18:12

It's a variety of English.

OldaRailer · 10/12/2021 18:13

There is also Standard Scottish English.

OldaRailer · 10/12/2021 18:15

Op I believe we are moving to a Standard Google English.😉

EnrouteNOTonroute · 10/12/2021 18:15

I know what you mean OP.
It’s like when people say they’re pissed. In British English that means drunk. In American English that means angry.

AffIt · 10/12/2021 18:17

I work in a global organisation, and have a particular loathing of 'obligated' - obliged is fine, thanks.

In saying that, language is a fluid thing and it changes and evolves with time. I can't get too upset about these things.

I'm also Scottish, so the word 'outwith' is a standard part of my vocabulary and I pity the fools who don't use this lovely, lovely word. Grin

AffIt · 10/12/2021 18:18

@OldaRailer

There is also Standard Scottish English.
Technically, 'Modern Scottish English', to differentiate from Scots / Lallans.

(Disclaimer: have degree in sociolinguistics. Also, am Scottish.)

hotfroth · 10/12/2021 18:18

There's no such thing as 'British' English.

It's just English.

hth

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 10/12/2021 18:19

I love outwith.

Has anyone noticed these as well

Transportation - Transport
Expiration (date) - Expiry Date

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AffIt · 10/12/2021 18:19

@hotfroth

There's no such thing as 'British' English.

It's just English.

hth

I'm afraid you're wrong.

hth

Mittenmob · 10/12/2021 18:21

I hate the lack of 'the' in dates. "This film is out September third" yuck.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 10/12/2021 18:21

@EnrouteNOTonroute

I know what you mean OP. It’s like when people say they’re pissed. In British English that means drunk. In American English that means angry.
Excellent point - and arse is largely replaced by ass - an ass was a Donkey for me growing up (I think I got that from the Bible mind you - something about the jawbone of an ass).
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ComtesseDeSpair · 10/12/2021 18:21

Nah. DP is from the US so we speak American English in our house. Spackle, cookies and trash all the way.

Language evolves and we with it. It’s why Chaucer wouldn’t have a clue what any of us are saying here, and why we don’t yearn wistfully for his prose.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 10/12/2021 18:23

@ComtesseDeSpair

Nah. DP is from the US so we speak American English in our house. Spackle, cookies and trash all the way.

Language evolves and we with it. It’s why Chaucer wouldn’t have a clue what any of us are saying here, and why we don’t yearn wistfully for his prose.

why we don’t yearn wistfully for his prose.

Actually I do, just a little bit - some of it is beautiful.

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ComtesseDeSpair · 10/12/2021 18:25

@AffIt

I work in a global organisation, and have a particular loathing of 'obligated' - obliged is fine, thanks.

In saying that, language is a fluid thing and it changes and evolves with time. I can't get too upset about these things.

I'm also Scottish, so the word 'outwith' is a standard part of my vocabulary and I pity the fools who don't use this lovely, lovely word. Grin

I always use “outwith” Grin Not Scottish, but it’s a word which says what I want to say perfectly.

On a connected point, “without” didn’t used to be used in the way it’s most commonly used now, to say that something is absent; it used to have a similar meaning to outwith, meaning “to be outside of.”

I don’t think Americans had anything to do with that shift, but perhaps we should blame them anyway.

OldaRailer · 10/12/2021 18:25

Sorry Afflt. I did a quick Google to check too.😂

pigsDOfly · 10/12/2021 18:26

UK courtroom dramas now feature lawyers shouting "objection!" and judges saying "sustained" - something that never actually happens in UK courts but the writers have all grown up watching US dramas and films.

Also, you sometimes see UK judges banging a gavel in tv or films, something else that never happens in a UK court; UK judges do not have gavels.

I've also noticed a lot of American English creeping into books by UK writers set in the UK.

Having said that I've also noticed an awful lot of terrible grammar: 'he was sat' 'she was stood' were the sort of phrases that liberally peppered a book I read recently, so perhaps some writers don't actually know what is UK English and what is American English in the same way that some of them seem to have a very tenuous grasp of English grammar.

MajorCarolDanvers · 10/12/2021 18:27

Language evolves. I enjoy teaching my English colleagues how to use good Scottish words everyday.

Clymene · 10/12/2021 18:27

@daimbarsatemydogsbone

License plate - Number plate Driver's license - Driving licence Windshield - Windscreen Envision - Envisage Bring (instead of take)

So much British English is being replaced with the US versions.

UK courtroom dramas now feature lawyers shouting "objection!" and judges saying "sustained" - something that never actually happens in UK courts but the writers have all grown up watching US dramas and films.

I know it's inevitable but I celebrated the little differences - they seem to become fewer and fewer each year.

I don't know anyone who uses the American version of those. And I know Young People.
FourteenSixteenTwentyTwo · 10/12/2021 18:28

@hotfroth

There's no such thing as 'British' English.

It's just English.

hth

Yes there is.

hth

To ask if do (or will) miss British English?
CheeseCakeSunflowers · 10/12/2021 18:29

Language is something that has always evolved. If you read an old text from a few centuries ago there will be many words and phrases that are not used now. The King James translation of the Bible is a good example. When British people emigrated to the states centuries ago they would have spoken British English but over time the language in both countries has evolved differently. Now commuication across the atlantic is so easy the two versions of the same language have started to move closer again. I dont think it really matters what word is used as long as it can be understood, I see it as no different to people from different areas speaking with different accents.

Swirlywoo · 10/12/2021 18:29

I am so relieved to see that I don't use any of the Americanisms! My daughter on the other hand...

AuntieStella · 10/12/2021 18:30

The words invite and quite have almost entirely epsupplanted the nouns invitation and quotation

Even the BBC is losing the 'against' when reporting on appeals against ruling

Pissed - most definitely means drink, and it's always a doubletake moment to realise an 'off' is missing.

It's almost worth taking up smoking so I can ask people if I can bum a fag.

We need more faggots (barely mentioned in a whole meatballs thread)

Theunamedcat · 10/12/2021 18:30

Judge rinder has a gavel?

I've never been inside a court do English courts not have objections?

I vaguely remember watching court TV as a child that was English but it was so long ago I can't remember if it was real or a drama 😅 I remember wigs....

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