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To ask if do (or will) miss British English?

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daimbarsatemydogsbone · 10/12/2021 18:05

License plate - Number plate
Driver's license - Driving licence
Windshield - Windscreen
Envision - Envisage
Bring (instead of take)

So much British English is being replaced with the US versions.

UK courtroom dramas now feature lawyers shouting "objection!" and judges saying "sustained" - something that never actually happens in UK courts but the writers have all grown up watching US dramas and films.

I know it's inevitable but I celebrated the little differences - they seem to become fewer and fewer each year.

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SenecaFallsRedux · 13/12/2021 11:41

Yes but was it used in those contexts? You have always "gifted" land, but we didn't have "Christmas gifting".

And an asteroid may impact you, but generally things had an impact on you, before they started "impacting" you.

So what? Playing with forms of words, such as turning nouns into verbs is a marked feature of English. Had you been living at the time, would have objected when the first person took the noun "rain" and made a verb out of it?

JudgeJ · 13/12/2021 14:48

@Slowchimes

I can tolerate everything else except "my bad"

Grin

For a long time I thought that was 'my bag' never having seen it written down and being of a certain age! Probably why I didn't relate INXS and 'in excess' for a long time.
JudgeJ · 13/12/2021 15:09

A local pub used to have 'Please park pretty' written on it's car park. I never took a pot of paint to it, but I was sorely tempted.

When I used to have red pens in my bag, for professional reasons, I was always tempted to correct things, especially apostrophes! My butcher used to ask me to check his notices around the place, I told him it was less glaring to not use an apostrophe than to use one incorrectly.

JudgeJ · 13/12/2021 15:11

@Hospedia

Some British people, and I'm not naming specific regions here, seem to believe that their particular regional accent/phrases/idioms, etc are the only ones which are quintessentially British/English. They don't appear to realise that other accents, regions and countries exist within the UK. They also believe that any variation on how they say or do things - for example Santa vs Father Christmas - is an example of Americanisms invading our culture via TV and YouTube.
So true, I recall the horror on someone's face when I said that RP was as much an accent as Scouse, Geordie etc., the difference being it lacks character.
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 13/12/2021 15:12

UK courtroom dramas now feature lawyers shouting "objection!" and judges saying "sustained" - something that never actually happens in UK courts but the writers have all grown up watching US dramas and films.

But this was always the case in courtroom dramas, even when I was a child (before I was a lawyer!). They also have U.K. lawyers pacing up and don’t the courtroom like in the US and we don’t. We stand still!

CookSproutsInSoySauce · 13/12/2021 15:15

Number plate, driving license are and windscreen are the British versions right?
I've never heard anyone say the others so now I'm doubting myself.

But yes I dislike how Americanised everything is becoming. That includes language but also extends to the Halloween Christmas-style Christmas crackers I saw at the supermarket. And other cultural things.

British people on my Instagram feed were celebrating thanksgiving Confused

Bitofachinwag · 13/12/2021 15:23

British people celebrating Thanksgiving is odd.

EBearhug · 13/12/2021 15:50

Most people I know who celebrate Thanksgiving here are either American or part-American, or have lived there for some time.

CookSproutsInSoySauce · 13/12/2021 16:09

I agree, it is odd.
I know them personally and they arent American or lived there. I think it's a combination of bring hit with the consumerism involving it with vloggers they follow, cute crafts, seeing people celebrate it in stuff they watch etc. It just looks fun. I was under the impression that thanksgivingwas dying out in America due to more awareness of the routes, but I must be mistaken Confused.

Classica · 13/12/2021 16:24

I was under the impression that thanksgivingwas dying out in America due to more awareness of the routes, but I must be mistaken

People can recognise the coloniser roots of Thanksgiving and the negative impact on the indigenous Americans but that doesn't mean Americans should be shamed into giving up their secular, and therefore inclusive, holiday as some kind of reparation.

British people can be so snooty.

Classica · 13/12/2021 16:26

Especially considering the stink so many British people kick up when their own history of colonialism is mentioned.

Swirlywoo · 13/12/2021 16:37

Especially considering the stink so many British people kick up when their own history of colonialism is mentioned.

Really? I don't know anyone who would object to this part of our history being raised. It's pretty irrefutable.

Classica · 13/12/2021 16:45

You must have missed the months of discourse around Colston's statue, and how toppling it was a grave injustice, as well as the many people who gave up their National Trust membership because that org dared address the links between England's stately home and slavery.

Slowchimes · 13/12/2021 17:33

For a long time I thought that was 'my bag' never having seen it written down and being of a certain age! Probably why I didn't relate INXS and 'in excess' for a long time.

JudgeJ. GrinGrin. I have similar blind spots!

SenecaFallsRedux · 13/12/2021 17:36

They also have U.K. lawyers pacing up and don’t the courtroom like in the US and we don’t. We stand still!

Lawyers in the US don't generally do a lot of pacing around either, unless they are working with exhibits. And you ask the judge's permission.

XelaM · 13/12/2021 17:51

There is no such thing as a "UK lawyer" or "UK law". The laws of England & Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are not the same thing!

MasterBeth · 13/12/2021 19:19

A lawyer from anywhere in the UK is a UK lawyer. HTH.

meditrina · 13/12/2021 19:27

@MasterBeth

A lawyer from anywhere in the UK is a UK lawyer. HTH.
Not really - there are separate jurisdictions

For example, English barristers are not always permitted to appear in Scottish courts.

MasterBeth · 13/12/2021 19:30

@Bitofachinwag says What is bad is startimg to use words from other countries (America in this case) just to be "cool", especially when there already are British English words for it. E.g. why have people started calling films "movies"?

Let's assume that people use the 100+year old word "movies" just to be cool. So what?

MasterBeth · 13/12/2021 19:30

@Bitofachinwag says What is bad is startimg to use words from other countries (America in this case) just to be "cool", especially when there already are British English words for it. E.g. why have people started calling films "movies"?

Let's assume that people use the 100+year old word "movies" just to be cool. So what?

Peregrina · 13/12/2021 19:42

Do Scottish judges bang gavels? English and Welsh ones don't - despite what you see on TV or in films.

Classica · 13/12/2021 19:47

No gavels in Scottish courts.

Bitofachinwag · 13/12/2021 19:52

[quote MasterBeth]**@Bitofachinwag* says What is bad is startimg to use words from other countries (America in this case) just to be "cool", especially when there already are British English words for it. E.g. why have people started calling films "movies"?*

Let's assume that people use the 100+year old word "movies" just to be cool. So what?[/quote]
Why have people who used to say films suddenly started saying movies? Or calling public loos bathrooms?

If you like changing words why not use words from other languages too?

Jarbed · 13/12/2021 19:57

If you like changing words why not use words from other languages too?

This would certainly occur if people were consuming media in a certain other language on a daily basis. Our use of language is influenced by our surroundings. English people consume a LOT of US media and are therefore influenced by it. We don't generally adopt German words because we don't generally hear or read German-language media. It's quite obvious isn't it?

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