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AIBU to not understand the outrage over the government’s so-called Christmas party?

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OneRuleForThem · 07/12/2021 22:33

I feel like this is only an issue if people automatically followed guidelines like robots. We were “told” not to visit our own families over Christmas. Nobody tells me whether I can or can not visit my own family, so I did, and had a lovely and nice normal Christmas last year.

It seems people are up in arms over the fact that Downing Street allegedly (do I have to say allegedly?) had a Christmas party and flounced the “rules” without social distancing. My only reaction is…And? And so? So what? Did anyone expect the government NOT to do something like this? I don’t know why people are up in arms over it tbh. It’s not like this government is brand new to people and they didn’t have prior information that this government backtrack and “do as I say not as i do” ALL THE TIME.

I really don’t get why people are so outraged by this. My main reaction is…why did you listen to them in the first place expecting them to be some kind of moral leaders? AIBU?

OP posts:
Strugglingtodomybest · 08/12/2021 09:07

Your cavalier, dismissive attitude I find distasteful and uncaring. So because you personally flouted the rules it’s all ok. People should not be upset because you in your selfishness didn’t follow the rules. Good for you… you’re just as low as your scumbag politicians.

You’re exactly the sort of constituent that reflects why you even have such a person as Boris Johnson in power.

Well said!

I'd be interested to know what other laws you've broken, or was it just this one, that conveniently allowed you to do exactly what you wanted at Christmas? Op, you're just selfish and thick, the same as Boris et al. The rest of us followed the law because we recognised that it was the right thing to do, we listened to the science (which isn't that complicated, surely it's obvious that you avoid other people during a virus pandemic??!).

Tinabn · 08/12/2021 09:07

Some people believe they live in a society and do their best to support it, others believe they are responsible for themselves and live by their own rules that fit their agenda, those are the selfish bastards who drink-drive, speed in residential areas, ignore COVID laws and currently run the country, mostly they get away with it but when they don’t it destroys families, that is why there are laws. The party at 10 Downing Street broke the law, the OP broke the law, others broke the law and for some of them there were consequences such as the family on another thread who lost two grandparents after an illegal Christmas gathering. There were indirect consequences, more people infected, more in hospital, less beds for those needing operations or treatment, my 84 year old mother was sent home with pneumonia at 2.30 in the morning after being blue lighted to hospital the evening before because of the lack of beds and the doctors’ belief that she would be safer at home, it took 10 months for her to fully recover. So, basically, all those who think laws only apply to others because they know what is right for them can fuck off to the middle of nowhere and live their lives away from those of us who care about society and who have a moral compass.

boogiewithasuitcase · 08/12/2021 09:10

Nobody tells me whether I can or can not visit my own family, so I did, and had a lovely and nice normal Christmas last year.

well, good for you, OP. We can always do with more of this I'm All Right Jack mentality in our society and I'm glad to see that the Government have been modelling it for us to copy.

(sarcasm)

Tricked2003 · 08/12/2021 09:14

@OneRuleForThem

I think I’m most surprised that so many people actually listened to their advice and did what the government said Confused As if I would watch and listen to Boris Johnson of all people(!) saying “do not visit your family at Christmas” and do what he said!!
Most people complied because 1) They appreciated the severity of the situation and didn't want to put their loved ones at risk. 2) It wasn't just advice it was LAW !!!!!

I'm so glad you had a nice Christmas and feel you are above the law, most people were less selfish.

vickyp0llard · 08/12/2021 09:14

I don't really get the shock either. They're government, they're hypocrites. I ignored all the rules and saw my family for Xmas too.

CrunchyCarrot · 08/12/2021 09:16

It's certainly unsurprising the govt did this considering the other shit they've pulled. They do most certainly deserve to be called to account for it and hauled over the coals, no matter what I do or don't feel. Absolutely not on to 'say one thing and do another' - whilst most of us were following the rules, our leaders were not! How can they expect people to follow rules when they don't?

getsanta · 08/12/2021 09:16

I don't know anyone who did t follow the rules OP. Really insensitive post. Ugh. Some people really suck.

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getsanta · 08/12/2021 09:17

*didn't

sauceyorange · 08/12/2021 09:17

@vickyp0llard

I don't really get the shock either. They're government, they're hypocrites. I ignored all the rules and saw my family for Xmas too.
So you're also a hypocrite?

Why does "they're dicks so I can also be a dick" seem so appealing to you?

Hmm?

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/12/2021 09:18

OneRuleForThem

I think I’m most surprised that so many people actually listened to their advice and did what the government said confused As if I would watch and listen to Boris Johnson of all people(!) saying “do not visit your family at Christmas” and do what he said!!“

We take no advice from this shower. We make our own decisions to fit our personal circumstances. We have always been much more cautious than Govt. guidelines.

getsanta · 08/12/2021 09:18

YABU people died alone in hospital whilst these ass hats were eating cheese and drinking wine

So true. Maybe the OP was able to break the rules and party with her family. But anyone with a relative in a care home wouldn't have been afforded that "privilege".

MedusasBadHairDay · 08/12/2021 09:18

The majority of the country pulled together and made sacrifice knowing it was for the greater good, we all watched the NHS buckling under the immense pressure, we watched front line staff put themselves at risk (some of those did so whilst being paid a pittance on minimum wage), we saw families mourn at socially distances funerals - unable to offer the comfort of physical touch. We saw people die alone and scared in hospitals. And we did all that because it was the right thing to do, because it meant reducing deaths, because it meant we were forging a path through this utter hell.

To then see selfish fuckers who decided they didn't need to make the same sacrifice a the rest of us, and to fucking laugh about it?! We're angry, we should be angry.

Tilltheend99 · 08/12/2021 09:18

Yawn.

Guess you are lucky you didn’t have family dying or in a care home last year.

The clue is in your question; you are unable to understand the motives of people who put others before themselves.

LaCerbiatta · 08/12/2021 09:19

@OneRuleForThem you enoyed the freedom and privilege of a nice family Christmas BECAUSE everyone else or many people followed the rules. Do you get that? Do you get that there was an actual reason for all the restrictions? Your parents were possibly alive and with access to a still functioning NHS BECAUSE many people behaved like sheep and followed government advice.

Same thing for all the anti vaxxers, the only reason you're leading a normalish life is because everyone else got the vaccine!

This is what fucking enrages me with these liberals, is how they expect all their personal freedoms not getting that what they do impacts others and is impacted by what other people do. Apart from being amazingly selfish Angry

wtaf37 · 08/12/2021 09:19

@OneRuleForThem

I feel like this is only an issue if people automatically followed guidelines like robots. We were “told” not to visit our own families over Christmas. Nobody tells me whether I can or can not visit my own family, so I did, and had a lovely and nice normal Christmas last year.

It seems people are up in arms over the fact that Downing Street allegedly (do I have to say allegedly?) had a Christmas party and flounced the “rules” without social distancing. My only reaction is…And? And so? So what? Did anyone expect the government NOT to do something like this? I don’t know why people are up in arms over it tbh. It’s not like this government is brand new to people and they didn’t have prior information that this government backtrack and “do as I say not as i do” ALL THE TIME.

I really don’t get why people are so outraged by this. My main reaction is…why did you listen to them in the first place expecting them to be some kind of moral leaders? AIBU?

What a fabulous example to set to your children - break the law when it suits you

But pretty sure that if you or a member of your family were transgressed against, you'd be the first to call for tightening of 'x' law to suit your needs. And then when the perpretator says 'no-one tells me what I can and can't do', you'll be screaming about it until someone organises a march to support you.

Jeez - no wonder we aren't getting out of this pandemic when people like you behave in the way you do. No moral leadersip chez OneRuleForThem

anungratefulwretch · 08/12/2021 09:26

Oooh look at you, OP, too cool for the rules. You're a proper edgelord, aren't you?

It must be hard for you, watching all the sheeple abiding by the law and so on every day, when you are just so much cooler and you know so much more than them. Wild.

bozzabollix · 08/12/2021 09:27

Most awful post I’ve read on Mumsnet for a while. YABVVU.

People obeyed the law for the common good of everyone, we elected to spend Christmas alone before the law was made because of rising numbers of cases. When it was announced there would be Christmas restrictions I thought good, it was the right call to make.

To think that after announcing the new rules to the nation they all had a jolly is frankly insulting to everyone that followed them. We followed them for a very good reason, to avoid needless deaths and the overwhelming of our critical care units.

Just because you lack the insight into why that was so vital doesn’t mean you’re right, it means you’re highly individualistic in thought and probably more than a bit dense too.

1dayatatime · 08/12/2021 09:27

@requiredusername

@whenwillthemadnessend

"It's a disgrace. I actually voted for tory this election as I felt the other parties were worse (Corbyn). I'm generally a floater voter anyway but this is the last straw for me

They are piss takers.

I will vote elsewhere next election "

+++

Actually I believe at the next election when you are in the ballot booth, pencil in hand there will be a flicker of hesitation but you will continue to vote Conservative.

Why? Because by then Boris will have gone as leader, the new Con leader will promise things will be different ( which they won't) the press will pick up on some wacky comments by the more extreme Labour MPs and maybe more out of hope than experience I sadly fear you will both vote Conservative.

Skade · 08/12/2021 09:31

But OP, some people didn't have an opportunity to break the rules. My grandad wasn't allowed to leave his nursing home or he would have lost his room. This meant we couldn't have him at ours for Christmas as we always would and didn't get to see him until he died of Covid 3 weeks later in the funeral home.

In the meantime these lying fuckers were having cheese and wine - if you can't see why people are angry I really don't know what to say to you.

Doubleraspberry · 08/12/2021 09:33

This is what fucking enrages me with these liberals, is how they expect all their personal freedoms not getting that what they do impacts others and is impacted by what other people do.

Libertarians, not liberals. Two different things.

Bee4229 · 08/12/2021 09:37

My grandad died just before the first lockdown. My grandma had to grieve alone after 60 years if marriage because we couldn't be with her. YABU.

HangingDitch · 08/12/2021 09:41

I’m not in the least bit surprised but if you’re not even mildly pissed off about this, you’re part of the problem. Your part of the reason we have such a dreadful government who take the piss with impunity.

Teacupsandtrainers · 08/12/2021 09:45

It’s embarrassing how low our standards are for our own government. Not to mention the lack of consequences for their continued law breaking but they get away with it because people don’t care enough or know enough I guess.

Covidwoes · 08/12/2021 09:45

What a ridiculous post, from an OP who clearly doesn't give a shit about the hundreds of thousands of lives lost to Covid. I obeyed the rules last Christmas because I didn't want to put anyone else at risk! You obviously don't care about that (and neither do the govt!). It's the hypocrisy of it OP.