What has your energy bill increased to? ☹️🤬

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Received an email last night that my energy bill was increasing. Gas-£109 a month. Electric-£79 a month. To think we were only paying around £120 a month a year or two ago, they’ve steadily increased the price.

I was working 2 jobs up until a few months ago and stopped due to stress. Wish I hadn’t now. ☹️.

[quote poshme]@GetTheFlockOutOfHere I slightly agree.

Our price was 17.5p per kWh and it's now gone up to 20.1p per kWh (octopus)

I've built up some credit over the summer, and have now increased our DD up to £70 (from £65). By my calculations that will cover us for the time being.

Was everyone else just on much lower kWh prices before? [/quote]
Do you have a standing charge?

Our charge is nowhere near 20p per kWh. It's 4p per kWh. But we have a standing charge is 24.12 a day. (The same as @ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy ...that poster said they have a standing charge too.......)

Our tariff is standard/variable. We are not 'fixed' like some are.

As you suggested, (and I mentioned earlier,) I believe some people were on much lower rates before. They were tempted by other energy companies offering the gas and electric (for example) £45 a month instead of the £90 they were paying. But because they are/have been still using the same amount of gas and electric, they have been slowly getting into debt.

Martin Lewis banged on about this for several years 'CHANGE YOUR ENERGY PROVIDER, CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE!!!' But it's come and bit a few people on the arse. We never changed because we knew which side our bread was buttered, and knew that one energy company couldn't possibly offer it for half the price of ours as some did.

Sadly, it seems some people were taken in, and took Martin Lewis's advice, which, although it's often good advice, was poor on this occasion. So, many people have ended up not only in debt, but also with a much higher energy bill (as they have been reverted to what it should have been, with some added on to claw back the money owing...)

Boiler energy manager or BEM for short Is a very clever piece of kit.
Takes about an hour to fit & wire up. Marshall Tuflex makes one & ours is by Nu vision energy They all work the same way, but basically they stop boilers from a situation known as dry running therefore waisting gas

@nannybeach

What is a "boiler manager" I put it in online, just came up with employment jobs working with boilers

I think it's some kind of weird, oblique, sales pitch!

Is anyone with Octopus on the SVR?

My fixed is:
Elec - 16.10p/kWh, 21.17p/day standing charge
GAS - 3p/kWh 17.85p/day standing charge

My rates end on 22nd January

Was just checking my account thinking this! We have gone up to £114 direct debit. Probably could cut down on energy and heating but have 2 small children in the house so like to keep it warm!

A sales pitch it isn’t. I have nothing to do with energy companies whatsoever: I just research & acted on it about 7 yrs ago. It’s just sound advice, should people wish to take it. I’m only offering advice of how they work, Business power houses running big boilers have had them for yrs now they are available to home owners.

5 bed house, all electric (we have oil heating) was roughly £100ish, and then we went into £284 worth of debit from £83. So my electric has gone up by £100 a month and I’m not using anymore I have been keeping a close eye on it.

I was lynched on another thread as I mentioned our hot tub which has been switched off and I used more than double the average amount of electricity - but when I have no other way of cooking apart from an electric oven & hob I don’t really have any other option

I’m dreading this months meter readings as we have all been at home due to the kids having covid

Mines gone up by £20. But since I'm £230 in credit it's a only going to cost an extra £3 a month

An auction site does them if you wish to see what they look like. Danfoss Randall BEM 5000 boiler energy manager. Same size as ours

Just had an email today from Octopus wanting us to increase our monthly direct debit from £169 to £315 (which I have done because I don't think we have any choice). We have a draughty large Victorian semi, and both work home. Have been freezing for the past week - only four more months to go!

We have insulated as much of the house as we can, and our boiler is also fairly new and the plumber tells us that it is efficient. We are pretty sparing with central heating - it was off for months over the summer and are just starting to have it for more than three hours a day the last couple of weeks.

They asked us to reduce our DD from £235 to £169 a while ago, but obviously this has been too low as we are now owing them money.

We are on the Octopus Flexible rate which is
Electricity - 19.28p/kwh, standing charge 26.09 p per day
Gas - 3.6p/kwh, standing charge 22.71p per day.

The latest bill assures me that we are on their cheapest rate for both gas and electricity. We switched to this rate in October 2020, I think.

£119 for both, was £79 before so a bit of a jump

I’ve built up some credit (without meaning to!) and there are only three of us though

We were with Avro who went bust and were paying £122 pcm for our 4 bed semi. We were transferred to Octopus and still haven’t had a final bill. I’ve submitted loads of meter readings so hopefully our consumption is being kept track of but I am massively panicking. We have all new windows (put in September) and we have the thermostat set at only 18.5 but we both work at home all day, use little oil filled radiators to just heat the rooms we’re in and layer up and use hot water bottles etc. But I hate not knowing how much I owe or how much my direct debit is going to increase to.

I'm yet to find out. Just switching over to British Gas as my energy supplier recently went bust. I'm only on electric (oil central heating), but if its more than £150 a month it will be a choice between lights or food in this house. Though have a nearly full oil tank so at least we'll be warm

@GetTheFlockOutOfHere are you saying your paying 4p per kWh for electricity?I find that very hard to believe,

[quote AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair]@GetTheFlockOutOfHere are you saying your paying 4p per kWh for electricity?I find that very hard to believe,[/quote]
Sounds like the gas price to me.

@GetTheFlockOutOfHere we pay 24p a day standing charge for electricity.

I can't believe you're paying 4p for electricity- surely that's gas?

My numbers were for electricity.

We're not on mains gas (so can't get dual fuel discount) and have LPG - which isn't cheap. Works out at roughly £1000 a year for LPG, and we have both a wood burner for extra heating & solar panels for the hot water. 5 bed house with 5 people.

Ours has gone up from 135 to 229 and we were in credit with Peoples Energy. Now with British Gas on cap tariff.

@CPDubs

We’re in a large Edwardian end of terrace with double glazed wooden sash windows. Our dd was about £120 a month averaged out over the year. Now prices have gone up our smart meter is hitting £10-11 a day 😵😵😵😵

Ouch, that is so much money

Ours is down by around £20 per month for both gas and electric. We were on a fixed rate but had to change our direct debit date and they messed it up so we got a new deal from them and saved money somehow.

@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair

are you saying your paying 4p per kWh for electricity? I find that very hard to believe.

and @poshme

we pay 24p a day standing charge for electricity.

I can't believe you're paying 4p for electricity- surely that's gas?

As @ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy said - That 4p a kWh is for gas. And as I said it's in addition to a 24.12p a day standing charge.

I didn't mention electricity.

Just had our first bill from new supplier (our supplier went bust) and I'm already minus £105. Gas and electric bills the same ..... used to be 65% electric and 35% gas. Looks like it's gonna be £50 a month more. It was already £140......

@TheCanyon

£109 to £184, we are always at least two hundred in credit too but two months on the Octopus Avro tariff has near wiped it out. What a time to be alive

Snap. Are we stuck in this tarif? Are there any better ones...?

@GetTheFlockOutOfHere, you replied to a post about electricity unit prices, giving your gas unit price. That's where the confusion came from.

They will be offering the standard variable tariff and it is covered by the price cap. You won't find anything cheaper I dont think

I'm staying minus as long as I can in the hope it will clear off next summer .......I have no problem being in debit to the energy companies.