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Buying a house

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Mynameisnew · 28/11/2021 10:40

I've name changed for this but am going to try to use numbers that are as close to the true ones as I can so that you get an idea.

This is a thread about my perception of other people, who, if I'm being rational, have their own stuff going on and are quite possibly just having a secretly bad time. Who knows.

Anyway, I am late thirties. Two small children who I had later than most over concerns over money /housing.

I have a small number of friends who demographically are similar to me but are scattered around the country.

Everyone is married and working - except me, with young children I'm not working.

DH and I live in a small city centre 2 bed apartment with no garden. Have done for years and years having bought the place just after the 2008 crash that put me out of a job at the time. (So sort of karma - lost my job but cheaper housing)

In the intervening years all of my friends have bought 4 bed homes. One bought a 3 bed but is in the process of building works to increase its size.

Over the years DH and I have saved and all his grandparents have died in that time too, so he received a bit of money from there. So we now have in the bank 190k. We don't live in London and aren't looking to.

Our flat has been valued at around 300k and the mortgage is 70k.

That gives us a budget of 420k.

I thought wow that's loads but the market has changed and that will buy us a modest 3 bed home.

Anyway. Friends all bought years ago at prices such as
220
300
350

But because they bought a few years ago, their homes are now worth more than we could even afford.

In looking to buy, one friend asked my my budget, which I balked at. I gave a ball park figure and she told me I was over stretching and I should be looking at stuff for 250. She pulled up some homes I wasn't happy with. Stuff not as nice as her house.

She's become quite absent, and it feels as though she's checked out of the friendship.

But other friends too, asking about houses were looking at, and "have you got a photo".. inevitability people find out the price and seem to judge. Things like "oh right I see". Very small comments.

I expect I'm being paranoid right?

But people whose houses on paper are worth more than I can afford find the situation weird. And I just want to say - well butt out then.

I don't know, I don't need any practical advice here I don't think but it would be great to hear your experiences.

There may well be something that I've overlooked who knows - ask any questions if you think it's relevant.

I suppose the point is, our home has appreciated by a % but the home we want to buy has done the same. Its the savings and inheritance that puts us on the next rung.

Why do I feel guilty?

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NovemberNovemberDarkNights · 28/11/2021 10:50

Honestly, just ignore it. Look at the houses you can afford with a cash payment, look at the houses you'd like to buy, decide if you want to take a mortgage out to afford the one you like.

If you feel you must 'compete' just tell them you are buying cash & want to be mortgage free.

I have one friend who is a bit sneery over what I'm looking to buy (suggesting things she'd never buy) but she's an only child who inherited her parents home and sold her house to build an extension on it. She couldn't have afforded to buy it without her inheritance, but I bite my tongue.

JSL52 · 28/11/2021 11:09

Where are you looking ?

Bluntness100 · 28/11/2021 11:11

This is a very confused post. On one side it’s all about being paranoid people are looking down on you for not affording more, then you thinking they had some unfair advantage for buying earlier, when they clearly had the funds to do so at that time, and then you finish by saying you feel guilty? Guilty of what exactly

Stop focusing on what others have, and if you wish more then get a job and start contributing.

JSL52 · 28/11/2021 11:17

What do you feel guilty about ?

NynaeveSedai · 28/11/2021 11:19

I don't understand what your issue is
I bought my first house this year at age 40 and spent £150k+ on renting in the past 20 years. Everyone's circumstances are different. You've got plenty of money (much of which was inherited so hardly earnt) and you can afford a decent home. What are you moaning about? You think your friends are what - judging you? I'm sure they are not. Maybe they are, in which case they are very weird and not friends.

CorrBlimeyGG · 28/11/2021 11:20

Your post is all over the place. You seem desperate to keep up with your friends, whatever they say to you, you take as a negative, when really they don't care if your prospective house is less than yours.

Your worst critic is yourself, by a long long way.

Proudboomer · 28/11/2021 11:21

Maybe they don’t know you have such a large deposit so they do think you would be stretching yourself on one salary.

Mynameisnew · 28/11/2021 11:21

Nobody had any unfair advantage when they bought. They're all regular families. They bought a house when we bought a flat and both types of property have gone up in value.

I feel guilty for the budget that we have as though we're rolling in it. But a lot of it is appreciation on a flat that will be put straight into appreciation on a house.

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CorrBlimeyGG · 28/11/2021 11:21
  • less than theirs
Mynameisnew · 28/11/2021 11:22

But yes I'm confused. Confused about why my friends ask my budget or for photos of the houses we're interested in, and then judge me for it.

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NynaeveSedai · 28/11/2021 11:24

Who judged you though?

HikingforScenery · 28/11/2021 11:24

You can afford what you can afford. Just stick to that.

Not sure how your friend looking at the property you can afford has ended up in her checking out of the friendship?

Proudboomer · 28/11/2021 11:25

Do your friends know you have an extra £190k to add to your deposit?
I would assume not and so they think that you are buying on one slavery and the equality from your flat so over stretching yourself.

titchy · 28/11/2021 11:26

I'm confused by your friend that thought you were stretching on £250 when you have £420 and can be mortgage free Confused Maybe they're not particularly financially savvy. In which case their points of view are meaningless. In any case it's really only your and dh's povs that matter.

As an aside - if you want the larger house you seem to hanker after to keep up, why don't you get a mortgage and increase your budget?

CorrBlimeyGG · 28/11/2021 11:26

They're making polite conversation.

Proudboomer · 28/11/2021 11:26

Salary not slavery although both pretty similar for the employee

turnthebiglightoff · 28/11/2021 11:26

You have £420k.

I have no twenty k.

Take out a small mortgage and buy a bigger house / have more money for a house. I'm in a small 3 bed with a huge / high interest mortgage because my deposit was so low.

You have £420k.

Read that again and give your head a wobble.

Best of luck.

Eeyoresideyestigger · 28/11/2021 11:27

@Mynameisnew

I agree with PP, that's a long and confused first post ..without a clear point for AIBU

  1. You want a house and have your flat to sell which has made money and quite a bit of savings + inheritance? Great. Go out an offer in on what house you like that you can afford that's advertised in the for sale market. (Lots of fun to be had looking at houses to choose ..)
  1. One friend told you to look a lot under budget (as her house is worth less?) ? Your other friends bought earlier and have houses worth more money ? All irrelevant. Stop comparing yourself and don't take housing advice from this first friend again.

Still don't understand your AIBU? Or why there is guilt involved?

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 28/11/2021 11:29

@Mynameisnew

But yes I'm confused. Confused about why my friends ask my budget or for photos of the houses we're interested in, and then judge me for it.
But isn't this exactly what you're doing? By saying what they bought at and when... And that theirs have appreciated and you couldn't even afford their revised house prices?

As many have said... Circumstances are very different... People do or not inherit, people (do not) prioritise housing over travel, or decide the last they want to do is spend their 20s and 30s...goinf up the housing ladder...

In my circle of friends, because if different circs and life choices and geographic area....
Some are buying terraces in NE for less than 100k and others are selling houses in London for almost 2 million.

KeyboardWorriers · 28/11/2021 11:29

I can't make any sense of the issue here?

MaskingForIt · 28/11/2021 11:31

@KeyboardWorriers

I can't make any sense of the issue here?
That’s because it is a non-problem wrapped up in a stealth boast.
Sciurus83 · 28/11/2021 11:32

What? Is this a stealth boast? £190k deposit is astronomical. Is your problem that you want your friends to fawn over you because you've lived in a flat for years when they haven't and you feel you should get some sort of "sacrifice" praise? Because that's what it sounds like. Most of this judgement sounds like it is in your head.

stmw123 · 28/11/2021 11:33

I bought a 3 bed semi at 23 (3 years ago) with my partner. We both had min wage jobs and no inheritances or help. It was cheap and in a rough area but we've done it up and the area has massively improved. We're set to make 90k on it when we move in a few years time.

My best friends 29 and has spent the last 5 years bouncing around from home, living with boyfriends, to back living at home. She makes 40k a year but doesn't have savings. She's living and loving her life though! She has great fun. She wonders what on earth I'm doing being so serious with a mortgage and spending money doing renovations.

It's not the same as what you're asking but it literally doesn't matter. People have different priorities and see value in different things.

Honestly ask yourself why you care? Just live your life and do what you want.

From what you've said they don't sound like they've said anything wrong though unless you've missed bits out? I'm nosey and love Rightmove so I'd ask to see a pic too! Not to judge, just because I'm interested.

Eeyoresideyestigger · 28/11/2021 11:33

@Mynameisnew

But yes I'm confused. Confused about why my friends ask my budget or for photos of the houses we're interested in, and then judge me for it.
Then don't

You're making a meal of this
If you don't like friends comments, don't talk about it with them or show them

(Maybe your friends are looking at the house yo point out drawbacks of area or lack of downstairs loo, or whatever to be helpful?)

Weird that you are caught up on how your flat made money & you're using savings etc to want to upsize to a house - that is literally what happens, most people upsize when as they get older (until they need to downsize!(

Mynameisnew · 28/11/2021 11:39

I wouldn't say we're trying to keep up.

We live in a two bed apartment with no garden and we have two children.

We just need a family home.

The issue is my friends are in the process of dropping me.

I'm probably just a boring friend. 😶

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