Teenage girls are total dicks

[Codswallop20]

They really are. Selfish hormone driven cock wombles.

I think they should all be forced to live on an island and only be allowed to return when they are sane.

AIBU??

[quote TarasCrazyTiara]@Cornettoninja

There isn’t any evidence of a male equivalent of menopause. What is with all these bizzare Mums net claims of things like male menopause or men’s fertility declining in the same way as women’s. Neither is true. Is it because there’s a disproportionate amount of feminists on here?[/quote]
I didn’t mention fertility and I wasn’t arguing equivalency of the sudden drops associated with menopause, I was pointing out that men also experience a decline in hormone levels as they age and it can affect them physically and mentally. The equivalency I was referencing was in terms of the reasons for someone’s mood/mental health.

It’s absolutely not a ‘bizarre claim’ unless you’re trying to tell me that men don’t experience a change in their hormonal balance after the age of 40?

“Satan in a crop top”

:)

@sst1234

Why blame bad behaviour from girls and women on hormones? Nothing to do with hormone, if you make it acceptable for your children to treat you badly, it’s not their hormones that are the problem.

My children do not behave badly. They have been brought up well by attentive parents who really care about them, their safety and welfare.

I could set my watch by my DD acting up and it is directly related to PMS. It is hormone related and she can't realise or rationalise it because she is overwhelmed.

I do not hate her. I adore her and 99% of the time she is lovely. But when the hormones take over she is a horror and completely unreasonable.

@SusannaQueen

Tbh, I'm torn between feeling heartbroken at the fact that she'll leave home soon or feeling the urge to give her a one way ticket to some where far away right this minute.

She's 16, I get glimpses of a lovely person every so often, we have some laughs and lovely times, she can be good company. But my god, she can be rude, very cutting, temperamental, selfish and she reduces me to tears sometimes.

YANBU.

Yup. Me too! DD16 is amazing in so many ways, I hope she'll be consistently nice to me one day!

'I could set my watch by my DD acting up and it is directly related to PMS. It is hormone related and she can't realise or rationalise it'

@Codswallop20 I had raging hormones yet I wasn't a bitch to my parents or any adults in fact. I was just too scared as they had authority over me, I had this respect with a slight fear of misbehaving towards adults. You know how they got the fear and respect out of me? Because my parents showed me there are consequences of me acting up. Bad consequences. I was to act like a normal respectful person or I'd suffer by not seeing friends, parties cancelled, missing out of fun activities, all my gadgets taken away from me, pocket money cancelled that week, month, etc.

You seem not to take any responsibility for your daughter's shitty behaviour, excusing it for hormones. Accept that she doesn't listen to you or respect you, and you have no authority over her as sounds like she rules you.

Let me guess, you also think she'll 'grow out of it' ? If she's like this as a teenager I can't imagine what she'll be like an adult.
Adult women still get PMS.

I was a pretty good teenager so all the comments about teen hormones and moods seem quite alien from my own first hand experience. However with 2 DDs who manage their fair share of drama at just infant and toddler ages I do worry!

I was just too scared as they had authority over me

Personally I wouldn’t like to rule by fear…

Yes @RufustheFloralmissingreindeer it's a fear of consequences.

It teaches you about 'adulting' - for example when people feel lazy and don't want to go into work, they have a slight fear of getting sacked, so they go into work.
A slight fear is needed to understand the consequences of bad decisions.

A moody daughter acts like a cow and it's blamed on her hormones. There are no consequences of her being a cow so what lesson does that teach her?

@lousanne

Yes *@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer* it's a fear of consequences.

It teaches you about 'adulting' - for example when people feel lazy and don't want to go into work, they have a slight fear of getting sacked, so they go into work.
A slight fear is needed to understand the consequences of bad decisions.

A moody daughter acts like a cow and it's blamed on her hormones. There are no consequences of her being a cow so what lesson does that teach her?

Like i said

Not my parenting style

And, to be fair

Its pretty much down to luck

Wow. I would never describe those words to describe my daughter, or my sons for that matter. How can anyone feel such negativity to their own child?

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer

And, to be fair

Its pretty much down to luck

If it makes you feel better about your teenager who has no respect for you 🤷‍♀️

My three teenagers respect me

Just cos i dont parent like your mum doesn’t mean that i dont have respectful, intelligent, caring, funny teenagers

Its no good trying to get personal 😀

Youre mum was obviously unlucky 🤷‍♀️

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer please don't mistake fear of parents with fear of consequences. The latter is important to learn how to make good life decisions.

Teenagers must have a fear of consequences of their decisions. Because a lot of life is doing what we don't want to do.

We don't speed because we don't want to get a speeding ticket. We don't slack at work all the time because would get fired. We don't eat junk 24/6 because we would get sick and overweight. We don't overspend on credit cards because the debt agency will be after us.

Because as a teenager I've learnt to do what is required of me even though I don't want to - it has been easier to apply this to adult life.

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer

I really have no idea, not any rational reason that’s for sure.
No I don’t have any links it’s just something I’ve noticed get brought up in a few different comments sections a bunch of times, usually when the topic is something to do with fertility and waiting vs having a baby now. Like someone will say the man can afford to wait and OP can’t or whatever and then someone will pop up with a comment talking about how 45 year old men will be going through all kinds of fertility issues and such as I’ve mentioned.
I don’t know if it’s honestly believed or it’s bitterness or what but I’ve seen it a bunch of times here and never have I heard it irl.

My dd was a model child in primary

A difficult toddler but easy and high achieving from about 4 to 11/12

Bring on hormones and covid pandemics and friendship issues and exam pressure and stress at secondary and she is an anxious moody and can be extremely horrible at times so all of those crowing over the rest of us - just enjoy your smugness and pray your child doesn't have a crisis in the future. Anything can happen and nothing is written in stone.

@ilovechocolateandcake

My 15 year old DD has just called me a cunt I needed to read this. Thank you for starting this thread!!

I would wipe the floor with her if she said that to me.
That's unforgivable.
Appalling.

Not sure about the wole "consquences" thing.
I don't believe punishment works.
Not all behaviour is modified due to fear of getting caught or consequences.
I don'lt go out and punch people or steal their belongings because I am afraid of being punished.
Respect and altruism go much deeper than that.
Punishment doesn't go far enough in leading children to have a good moral compass when it comes to thinking about the feelings of others, respecting property, having empathy.

I have never punished my children. I was punished a lot as a teenager and all it led to was anger and resenment

Have to say I de believe in "natural consequences", so if a child empties a box of cereal on the kitchen floor for fun, then they would be handed a brush and we would sweep up the cereal together.
The idea of remote punishments don;t site well with me- like being grounded for swearing or having a day out cancelled because they did something wrong.
Teenagers can be respectful amazing individuals.

When my DD hit 14, I remember apologising to my mum for everything I’d done as a teen. You don’t realise what a twat you’re being until you’re on the receiving end!

Me and my sister were absolute devils, our poor mother.
In comparison my DD 17 is a perfect angel haha.

[quote Benjispruce5]@Octavia174 I love my two(21 & 17) with all my heart. I love being a mother but god sometimes it’s hard. It’s ok to say so and have an outlet such as an anonymous forum to share your frustrations. Please don’t shame posters.[/quote]
Yes I wouldn't use the op's exact phraseology, and I adore my DD (plus our other "borrowed" teen DD who is living with us currently) but it is the hardest thing I have ever done in my life and I find no one really talks about the difficulties except in the most general terms, either out of respect for the confidentiality of their near adult DC, or out of guilt because they feel they should have cracked parenting by this stage. So I am very grateful for threads like this. My teen DD regularly reduces me to tears (in private). The other day we had a minor disagreement which blew up out of all proportion and ended in her asking in a very superior way "what exactly is the point of you?" An hour and a bit later she was back from the shops and all excited about wanting to show me clothes she had bought. It was like she had no memory of what she had said an hour before. I didn't rock the boat because I was so pleased to see her happy for once. But it's baffling being the parent of a teen DD sometimes! I can't keep up with the quick mood changes and find the emotional rollercoaster very draining indeed.

So completely agree with you @speakout.
I watch school and their system of punishments and it makes me wonder why the education system hasn't worked it out yet.
I see behaviour rebelling against rules that are sometimes there for the sake of it. Then frustration sets in and resentment.
Just talk to teenagers like they're actual people, for crying out loud. Don't treat them like they're an asbo just waiting to burst out unless you keep them under control!

I was a brat when I was a teenager. Dd 15 is kind and sweet for 3 weeks out of the month, for 1 week she is a demon who massively pushes her luck definitely not a good week in the house when we're both due on at the same time