To think The Queen should retire?

[ThinWomansBrain]

I am not a monarchist - but given that we have a Royal Family....
Given her age, understandably failing health, and the recent widowhood, is it be reasonable to think the Queen should step down and retire gracefully?
OK, maybe stay in post until the Jubillee next year, but then hand over.

The Auld Queen dying will probably bring Randy Andy creeping back out the woodwork 🤑🤑 to share his grief with the nation.
When she goes the rest of them should be told to get real jobs 😜 Charlie Willie and Katie for starters a days work would fucking kill them.

[quote gogohm]@monkeysox
No . We had advanced warning regarding the duke of Edinburgh a few weeks before he died that he was in his final illness as they put it, I will have a couple of hours or so's notice before the public announcement as there is a lot of protocol to follow at work ... little of which applied to the duke due to the government restrictions [/quote]
Oo, do tell us what you do at work.

@ThinWomansBrain

Impact - maybe daily express will move on from Diana conspiracies?

That's never going to happen, as long as the Express exists.

And all the money will change Not immediately. Before decimalisation, there were still pennies from Queen Victoria's reign around, still legal tender until decimalisation. I was born in 1956 and when I was small, I was just as likely to get George VI coins as Elizabeth II in my pocket money. In fact shillings & florins, including those from previous reigns, remained legal tender as 5p & 10p coins for nearly 20 years, so you could have used a non- Elizabethan coin as late as 1990.

It'll only impact people who care about the royals though

Why would Joe or Jane Bloggs be grieving the Queen

You are very naive. The Queen is hugely popular even amongst those who aren't huge supporters of the royal family. As an individual, she is highly respected. She has been a very steadying influence in this country....always there. The public response when she dies will be unbelievable, mark my words

I also think that, given Charles' track record of trying to influence government policy, he's not going to be neutral in the same way that his mother appears to be. That is a worrying prospect for a supposed democracy

Nonsense, he’d fit right in with the current crop of incompetents.

@Duckrace

Yea she should. There's something wrong with raising your son to have just one job, then keeping it for yourself into your 90s.

You make that sound as if she designed the whole ridiculous system.

She didn't, she was lucky/unlucky enough to just be born into it.

Of course she could do what she likes - but she has mostly gone along with what she was born into - and has respect from many for that - even though it is mostly weird and daft.

I also think that, given Charles' track record of trying to influence government policy, he's not going to be neutral in the same way that his mother appears to be. That is a worrying prospect for a supposed democracy.
Our "democracy" is mostly a sham anyway - seats that have been in the hands of one party for centuries and everyone's vote for anyone else wasted - it's a joke, and that's before we start on about a State Church and unelected head of state - we are badly in need of modernisation, but it will never happen.

She was not just crowned and made Queen in the Coronation by the Government but Anointed by God. Which means that for her, as a committed Christian and Head of The Church of England she will not expect God to release her from the vows she made.
It is up to RF and Govt and all of us to help her keep her vows.

The public response when she dies will be unbelievable, mark my words

What do you mean be unbelievable exactly?

Will it be worse than Diana?

@Comedycook

The queen dying will have v little impact on most people’s lives other than the sycophants and forelock tuggers

I think you are very wrong. I think there will be huge displays of grief...I think people who aren't even that interested in the Royals will be quite shaken and affected. She's all most of us have known. Don't underestimate the impact her death will have.

Yes, and they'll be global

She must be the most recognised person on the planet, and held in very high esteem generally.

The public response when she does will be unbelievable, mark my words

Aye right

@Comedycook

It'll only impact people who care about the royals though

Why would Joe or Jane Bloggs be grieving the Queen

You are very naive. The Queen is hugely popular even amongst those who aren't huge supporters of the royal family. As an individual, she is highly respected. She has been a very steadying influence in this country....always there. The public response when she dies will be unbelievable, mark my words

I think most people will go "oh, that's a shame" and carry on.

The queen is a complete irrelevance to most people's lives.

She was not just crowned and made Queen in the Coronation by the Government but Anointed by God.

Well to be exact by a man believed by some to be a representative of God. Not actually God himself. That would be quite something.

@AngelicaElizaAndPeggy

I don't think she could hand it over as such - there isn't any precedent for that really, although I'm no expert. But she should absolutely be able to hand over all her duties to other members of the RF. There are enough of them and it would give them something purposeful to do. So yanbu

It's called abdication. reigning monach retires and next in line is annointed.

Are you not from the UK?

The Dutch monarchy isn’t exactly the star attraction the world over. Whether you like them or not. Not many people outside Netherlands could name the Dutch monarch.

@daimbarsatemydogsbone

The public response when she dies will be unbelievable, mark my words

What do you mean be unbelievable exactly?

Will it be worse than Diana?

Yes I mean easily like the response when Diana died. Huge carpets of flowers... crying in public. Even people who think they won't be bothered will probably be quite upset I'd imagine.

@politics4me

She was not just crowned and made Queen in the Coronation by the Government but Anointed by God. Which means that for her, as a committed Christian and Head of The Church of England she will not expect God to release her from the vows she made. It is up to RF and Govt and all of us to help her keep her vows.

Yeah, but she wasn't. She's there purely because her dad was king.

She's an old lady. Both from the point of view of giving her a break and the need for a head of state who is up to the job, she should hand her duties over to Charles.

@Seainasive

The last 2 queens of the Netherlands retired graciously and the monarchy doesn’t seem to have suffered. It seems perfectly sensible to me. I’m sure she won’t though.

Absolutely this!

In fact I would go so far to say that I think it has been a strategic error not to hand over the reins earlier, as the institution of the monarchy has not moved with the times, and I think it would have been slimmed down much earlier had she stepped back sooner.

Why would anyone be “shaken” by the death of a person in their late 90s they didn’t actually know? Saddened perhaps. She has to die sometime, she’s not immortal.

@AngelicaElizaAndPeggy

Is it possible to retire from active duties but still remain head of state though? So you don't abdicate, you just deactivate slightly but remain in place.

Yes. It is.

In Australia. Many of us would be like to see the end of the monarchy after the Queen passes away but have the greatest respect for her. She's been the most stoic, hard working and dignified public servant her entire life and I'll be sad to see her go.

She is an anointed sovereign. That is why she will not abdicate.

@CounsellorTroi

Why would anyone be “shaken” by the death of a person in their late 90s they didn’t actually know? Saddened perhaps. She has to die sometime, she’s not immortal.

Not shaken as in unexpected shock

But more in the sense of feeling the impact of such a change to the nation.

@CounsellorTroi

Why would anyone be “shaken” by the death of a person in their late 90s they didn’t actually know? Saddened perhaps. She has to die sometime, she’s not immortal.

Because she's the head of state and has been for most of our entire lifetimes. She's not Doris down the road in care home.