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Fed up with unvaccinated colleague isolating

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Peevedcolleague · 12/11/2021 16:40

Name changed 'cos I'll probably get slated but aibu to be pissed off about a colleague self isolating yet again while the rest of us have to carry on and pick up the pieces?

A new colleague chose not to be jabbed and is now facing numerous isolation periods at home on full pay where the rest of us have to carry on and cover her workload. Nature of the job means she's likely to be a close contact fairly regularly.

Even if she changed her mind and gets jabbed tomorrow, it'll be 10 weeks minimum before she's exempt from isolation so this could happen several more times yet.

Aibu to feel resentful and wish she bloody well got jabbed like the rest of us?

OP posts:
nathanandfanny · 12/11/2021 18:15

@Ozanj

My workplace has said that all unvaccinated colleagues including pregnant ones must have medical proof for vaccine exemptions. If they don’t isolation leave is unpaid but pregnant colleagues do get offered early mat leave if it’s easier.
That’s interesting. I didn’t know it was legal to discriminate in this way! If so why aren’t more work places doing it?
LoveGrooveDanceParty · 12/11/2021 18:15

@FreshFreesias

YABU. It’s not her fault, it is the fault of Covid cultists who are insisting on everyone, including pregnant women, taking a potentially dangerous treatment for a virus that is of minimal risk to healthy people.
‘Potentially dangerous treatment’?

I mean this is actually the level of intelligence anti-vaxxers are bringing to the debate.

And you wonder why people think you lot lack critical thinking - or indeed - any skills.

rwalker · 12/11/2021 18:15

My work has changed policy and don't give full pay on isolation .

Fluffycloudland77 · 12/11/2021 18:15

Yeah I’d be pissed off too.

When you think the first vaccine was a scratch on your arm with a dirty blade, bit of cow pus smeared over it and people actually had it done 🤪

cakewench · 12/11/2021 18:16

YANBU.

Interesting though. I thought advice was now that unless you tested positive, you came in? That's what staff at our school have been doing, anyway. (Tbf almost everyone has been vaccinated, if not everyone, so we aren't having the issue you are. But I empathise because that would be incredibly disruptive.)

LoveGrooveDanceParty · 12/11/2021 18:17

Other people's medical decisions are fuck all to do with you

‘Medical decisions’. Grin

‘I don’t want to’ is not a ‘medical decision’.

RuggerHug · 12/11/2021 18:17

@Fluffycloudland77

Yeah I’d be pissed off too.

When you think the first vaccine was a scratch on your arm with a dirty blade, bit of cow pus smeared over it and people actually had it done 🤪

If you saw smallpox you'd take the risk I imagine if you were told this could work!
HaroldSteptoesHorse · 12/11/2021 18:17

Feel your annoyance, we have 2 on a small team of 5 who decided not to get vaccinated. Each to their own but it’s us 3 who have no choice but to pick up their work for the time they’re off. When they return the first thing they say everything is How were things!!!! Would be great to tell them to Fuck off

nathanandfanny · 12/11/2021 18:18

Also: minimal risk to health people. What happened to society and thinking about others, abs protecting the elderly and the vulnerable and having a concept of public health (well, the conservatives, obviously, pushing the. Orion if ‘personal responsibility’ in a public health crisis).

SusieBob · 12/11/2021 18:18

@tinaturnip1

YANBU to be annoyed that you have additional workload continuously. You should be taking this up with your management and asking how it can be managed better.

YABU to think someone should get vaccinated because you want them to. Other people's medical decisions are fuck all to do with you

Yes they are.

A person who lives as part of a society, happily enjoying all the benefits of that society whilst refusing to take reasonable steps to keep that society safe has plenty to do with everyone.

I would never advocate that vaccines should be mandatory, but why the fuck are people so entitled to think that they can take decisions that potentially harm others - and this goes for any vaccine, not just COVID - and not have to suffer any consequences?

nathanandfanny · 12/11/2021 18:18

That was I. Response to this:

FreshFreesias
YABU.
It’s not her fault, it is the fault of Covid cultists who are insisting on everyone, including pregnant women, taking a potentially dangerous treatment for a virus that is of minimal risk to healthy people.
‘Potentially dangerous treatment’?

I mean this is actually the level of intelligence anti-vaxxers are bringing to the debate.

And you wonder why people think you lot lack critical thinking - or indeed - any skills.

whynotwhatknot · 12/11/2021 18:20

i dont think she should get paid after the first lot of isolation-she could get months and months off due to not being vaccinated

girlmom21 · 12/11/2021 18:20

That’s interesting. I didn’t know it was legal to discriminate in this way! If so why aren’t more work places doing it?

It's not discriminatory if the rules they've put in place don't affect protected characteristics, surely?

For all they know people could claim they haven't had the vaccine to take a shit tonne of paid leave

Penners99 · 12/11/2021 18:21

YANBU, your management needs to deal with your colleague firmly, i.e. shown the P45 door

Fluffycloudland77 · 12/11/2021 18:21

@RuggerHug you certainly would 😁

JassyRadlett · 12/11/2021 18:21

That’s interesting. I didn’t know it was legal to discriminate in this way! If so why aren’t more work places doing it?

Vaccine status isn’t a protected characteristic. There could in theory be a crossover with a protected characteristic (eg religion) where discrimination based on vaccination became illegal indirect discrimination.

Whitecushion · 12/11/2021 18:22

Don't people feel embarrassed when they sit at home doing nothing and are paid for it ? If I had decided to make the quite frankly( in my opinion) stupid choice not to be vaccinated I would at least have the self awareness to be uncomfortable about the extra work I was leaving to collegues.

girlmom21 · 12/11/2021 18:23

@Whitecushion of course they don't. They sit at home and proclaim how lucky they are to have such a supportive employer whilst having no consideration for the colleagues picking up the slack. It's what people have done for years.

AlohaMolly · 12/11/2021 18:24

My workplace also has a policy that says if you’re vaccinated and a close contact, you stay away from the office.

If she catches covid and isolates, is that ok? Or does that piss you off too? Surely it’s English government policy that is more dangerous, in that close contacts that are vaccinated are still expected in the work place? Given that vaccinations don’t prevent transmission?

I think there’s a lot to be angry about, but I’m not sure this is it.

rainbowdashsneeze · 12/11/2021 18:24

This has just happened to me. I have had one vaccine I was medically advised not to have the second due to the reaction I had, my eldest child became ill with covid and needed me to care for her so I would have worked from home home whether I was double vaccinated or not then my vulnerable child caught it and then I caught it we have all been very poorly. I have been working from home/on sick now for 2.5 weeks and my isolation doesn't end until Wednesday. My colleagues will have had to pick up some of my work and I would feel very hurt if my colleagues thought this behind my back.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 12/11/2021 18:25

I suppose it depends why she isn't vaccinated. If she's just an out and out anti vaxxer, I'd be pissed off. If, as many people on this thread have alluded to, although I can't see any evidence in your post, it's because she is pregnant, I'd cut her some slack. I know that current advice is for pregnant women to get vaccinated. However as someone who has suffered numerous miscarriages with no explanation, I was terrified of every move I made while pregnant. Scared to walk too fast in case I got out of breath and it harmed the baby, terrified when I woke up in the middle of the night and found I was lying on my stomach in case I had somehow harmed the baby. Crazy, I know, but because of so many previous losses, I was a ball of constant anxiety. I ended up getting both my vaccines in between my 2 miscarriages however wouldn't have gotten them while pregnant. As I say, I know this goes again the advice but I couldn't have dealt with the guilt if I had miscarried following a vaccine, even though logically I know it wouldn't have been the cause.

DroopyClematis · 12/11/2021 18:25

So the unvaccinated can have eleventy times off from work , fully paid , whilst colleagues pick up the slack?

I do not include those who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons.

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 12/11/2021 18:26

My workplace also has a policy that says if you’re vaccinated and a close contact, you stay away from the office

Apples and oranges, isn't it?

XenoBitch · 12/11/2021 18:27

[quote girlmom21]@Whitecushion of course they don't. They sit at home and proclaim how lucky they are to have such a supportive employer whilst having no consideration for the colleagues picking up the slack. It's what people have done for years. [/quote]
Picking up the slack is something to take up with management, and not the fault of the person off work.
Or are you one of the types that think people off work with things like depression are taking the piss too?

Warmduscher · 12/11/2021 18:28

[quote Fallagain]@Slytherinprincess pregnant women are very strongly encouraged to have the vaccine. Photo attracted is from my local health trust[/quote]
Interesting that your health authority seems strangely unable to use the word “woman” when talking about pregnancy and breastfeeding.