Did Stephen Nolan go where nobody has dared go before??

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That's it, really. I just listened to the podcasts. Everyone should listen. Most women I know are totally unaware that men with penises could be in a changing room near you
Anytime now.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09yjmph

A wee link.

A wee link

Oops. Thanks. I should have done that

No worries. :) I listened to all ten episodes over a couple of evenings last week. There wasn't really anything new to me but the story is well presented and eye opening if you weren't aware of how far Stonewall have infiltrated the BBC, OfCom, the Scottish Government... So good to see the sunlight on this.

I read with delight today that the BBC have removed themselves from the clutches of Stonewall and have officially withdrawn from the Stonewall Diversity Scheme.

Hallelujah. Baby steps, but a first, big important one.

No worries. smile I listened to all ten episodes over a couple of evenings last week. There wasn't really anything new to me but the story is well presented and eye opening if you weren't aware of how far Stonewall have infiltrated the BBC, OfCom, the Scottish Government... So good to see the sunlight on this

I listened to it with my husband, over the dinner table. I suppose I forced it on
him, in a sense, because it just would not be something he had ever heard of, or would listen to. I had to search it out on bbc sounds and because the sound on my phone is tinny, he very valiantly transferred it to bluetooth on my dab radio. Well, who knew I could do that?

He could not believe his ears!!

The content threw him. He had no idea this was going on. At all.
Predictable reaction. Oh, it's not important. It's just a few radicals.
Then it dawned on him , the little things that have been creeping in.His company have been requesting that he give his credentials. He/him/they. He has ignored it thus far .Didn't give it a second thought because it was ludicrous. Which it is.

But this has opened his eyes,, that this madness is becoming widespread and worming its way into every corner of our culture.

Every adult needs to listen to this.

Twin souls is one that even the editor of Pink News couldnt explain.

I agree OP, this is science denying madness that has permeated the heart of society. Even worse is the way we are encouraging children to do themselves permanent harm. Nolan series 2 please

Women have been talking about it for years. Especially on here.

It has not yet reached critical mass, but the process has started.

Thanks for the link 👍🏻

of course, they themselves would say it is not men with penises in women's changing rooms;
it is some women who happen to have penises in those changing rooms...

Thank goodness this is finally coming to widespread public attention. This is what we've been talking about and campaigning against for the past few years, getting called transphobes and bigots.

If this gets moved to Feminism, I’m literally going to spend the next three weeks reporting EVERY SINGLE aibu thread that’s actually about parenting, relationships, schools, stepchildren, legal matters… you name it

It’s brilliant - I hope he gets far more coverage and praise for what he’s done.

He’s absolutely not the first though - Julie Bindel, Janice Turner and James Kirkup have been writing about this for years.

It will get shipped off to feminism, that's what Mumsnet do. It's incredibly annoying. I was very frustrated when the they/them thread went poof. I didn't have chance to comment.

I've been beating this drum for years, its nice to see people finally taking notice.

Sadly mumsnet is more about appeasing advertisers than womens rights.

Thanks for the link. So important to raise people's awareness..

Em, actually you’ll find the feminism boards here were ‘going there’ well over a decade now. Many of the posters we owe that to were banned by MN for questioning what Nolan did.

Many women have ‘gone there’ publicly on Twitter or You Tube like magdelana, or MSM journalists gave done opinion pieces on this for 5yrs+ like Janice Turner, or politicians like liz truss and baroness Nicholson have been ‘going there’ for a long time, as have organisations like transgender trend or safe schools alliance of lgb alliance or sex matters have all ‘been going there’ and then there’s the women whose lives are threatened and jobs are ruined by ‘going there’ like Kathleen Stock or Maya Forstarter or Keira Bell and others who have been ‘going there’ publicly and through the courts for years.

YANBU to think it’s an incredible and timely podcast, but you would be unreasonable to think his piece of work sprang up from a vacuum.

There were times where I wish they had pushed a little more on the sheer madness of some of the statements made (I screamed at the radio when one guy said that letting men use the word mother wouldn't affect anyone) but I also admired their focus on the BBC and letting the insane doublespeak show itself up.

Even the non-binary Mayor said 'I was born male, em, er, I was assigned the male gender at birth' Even its biggest proponents can't keep straight what is correct language, and so obviously speak in fear of getting something wrong and being cancelled.

I sent the link for the podcast to several friends. Resounding, deafening silence from them. I don’t even know if they listened to it.

I was already aware of the issues and been trying to broach it with a couple of people: one male friend totally shut me down and called me “reactionary” for being anti-puberty blockers; the other, female, friend seems to have “got it” to a certain extent…other people - I have no idea.

It’s the most accessible, clear piece of journalism on the issue. Number 6 - with the Tavistock Clinic doctor - was so clear. As for the gobbledegook spouted by the Pink News chap -

If you haven’t listened, please do. Your will no longer be able to ignore this issue.

You, not your

The fact stonewall made the bbc & ofcom sign NDA’s is hugely significant.

So along with listening to the episode with dr David Bell I’d highlight that part to people.

A ‘charity’ that takes in millions of public funds making organisation it gives ‘trains’ being made to sign an NDA is secret police level crazy. It’s in direct opposition with a free democracy.

I read with delight today that the BBC have removed themselves from the clutches of Stonewall and have officially withdrawn from the Stonewall Diversity Scheme.

Have they? Progress I guess!

No - some of us have been literally saying all this stuff for years. But he did it publicly and he challenged his employer PLUS he's a man which helps a lot if you want to be listened to and taken seriously.

@bumbleymummy

I read with delight today that the BBC have removed themselves from the clutches of Stonewall and have officially withdrawn from the Stonewall Diversity Scheme.

Have they? Progress I guess!

And from the work place equality index. Which is even better.

Most of the organisations that have been publicly de stonewalling still remain in the wpei.

So bbc are breaking new ground.
And with the most straight forward and least apologetic statement.

@JulesRimetStillGleaming

No - some of us have been literally saying all this stuff for years. But he did it publicly and he challenged his employer PLUS he's a man which helps a lot if you want to be listened to and taken seriously.

Yes, I'm sure it must stick in the throats of so many women how much easier it is for your male voice to be heard. Maybe it's easier to be perceived as 'neutral' too.

It's an example of the patriarchy to me. Women have been saying the same of years and get threats of rape and violence but more people pay attention when men are saying the same thing.

I read with delight today that the BBC have removed themselves from the clutches of Stonewall

Interesting, thanks