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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 09/08/2022 12:39

TheSummerySilveryPussycat · 09/08/2022 11:49

I'm still lurking, but don't know what this refers to.

Ted Cruz made a speech in which he said what I have quoted above (he was talking about being a proper American today; he is trying to whip up violence at present). The Colosseum was where they had gladiatorial displays of fighting. Gladiators did not use battle-axes as a rule, they did not go and fight barbarians, and they were (almost always) slaves. Ted Cruz is ignorant AND stupid, as well as a nasty bit of work.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 09/08/2022 13:28

DuncinToffee · 09/08/2022 08:57

The FBI executed a search warrant on Trump's Mar a Lago.

This means that a federal judge has agreed that there is good reason to believe that a crime has been committed and that evidence of that crime is located in Mar-A-Lago. Judges don't sign warrants on spec, for all that Trump is calling it a "raid". Especially they don't when it is for the residence of someone with a high profile and a loud mouth.

Someone on witter wrote "What makes me laugh is Trump keeps protesting that something like this has never happened to a president before, without reflecting on why that may be."

AcrossthePond55 · 09/08/2022 18:18

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/08/2022 11:27

Had a hard time tracking down this thread with the new improved search system, I'm so pleased you're all still here Smile

My first thought about the Mar-A-Lago raid was that James Comey must be feeling just a touch of schadenfreude.

(Also, how is your DH now @AcrossthePond55 ?)

He's doing very well, thank you for asking! His only real 'residual' is that his sense of taste is only about 60% of what it was. But he says 'considering the alternative, I can live with that'. Another 'positive' about that is that he now weighs what he did in high school. He says that eating is no longer really important so he only eats 'what it takes to not feel hungry'.

AcrossthePond55 · 09/08/2022 18:24

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 09/08/2022 13:28

This means that a federal judge has agreed that there is good reason to believe that a crime has been committed and that evidence of that crime is located in Mar-A-Lago. Judges don't sign warrants on spec, for all that Trump is calling it a "raid". Especially they don't when it is for the residence of someone with a high profile and a loud mouth.

Someone on witter wrote "What makes me laugh is Trump keeps protesting that something like this has never happened to a president before, without reflecting on why that may be."

My understanding (and this may be a cover story for the real motive) is that the warrant was executed based on a belief that Doofus took documents and items with him as 'personal records and items' that rightly belong in the National Archives as 'Presidential Artifacts & Records'. I don't think that's a crime, per se, unless those documents and/or items affect national security. Or, I suppose, reveal criminal behaviour or malfeasance in office. And what do we think the likelihood of that is, hmmm?

Actually, 'Teflon Doofus' has always been very good at covering his tracks. I have a feeling that anything incriminating would never be kept anywhere near him or any of his homes. He has minions to keep that shit for him.

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/08/2022 19:42

Oh I'm so pleased for you both, Across.
Julian of Norwich was a wise old bird.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 09/08/2022 19:44

If he took into insecure storage items intended for the National Archive, or which were Presidential Records (some of what has already been retrieved from Mar-A-Lago was top secret), and he has also destroyed paperwork which law says ought to have been kept intact and handed over, the latter has been a federal offence (the Presidential Records Act 1978) since Nixon got caught dead to rights destroying things which would have been evidence against him, and his having done so would debar Trump from ever holding federal office again if it can be proved.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2022 02:33

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/08/2022 19:42

Oh I'm so pleased for you both, Across.
Julian of Norwich was a wise old bird.

Very wise. "All manner of things" have indeed been very well!

DuncinToffee · 10/08/2022 15:46

No surprise here

JUST IN: Trump says he has pleaded the Fifth in his deposition with the New York State AG.

"Under the advice of my counsel ... I declined to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the United States Constitution."

twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1557370214626508800?t=tQNhlV1xPPT-0Um5lTGVWQ&s=19

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/08/2022 20:00

DuncinToffee · 10/08/2022 15:46

No surprise here

JUST IN: Trump says he has pleaded the Fifth in his deposition with the New York State AG.

"Under the advice of my counsel ... I declined to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the United States Constitution."

twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1557370214626508800?t=tQNhlV1xPPT-0Um5lTGVWQ&s=19

Nothing to do with the vile Trump creature, but why has "on" changed to "under" recently? We used to give evidence on oath, now people give evidence under oath; we used to do things on someone's advice, now apparently we do them under their advice. (Well, Scots people sometimes took things under advisement, but I think that was a specialist term.)

Or has this been going on forever and I only just noticed?

AcrossthePond55, I am very glad indeed for you both.

MissConductUS · 10/08/2022 20:01

Nothing to do with the vile Trump creature, but why has "on" changed to "under" recently? We used to give evidence on oath, now people give evidence under oath;

Under oath is the accepted American usage.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/08/2022 20:13

MissConductUS · 10/08/2022 20:01

Nothing to do with the vile Trump creature, but why has "on" changed to "under" recently? We used to give evidence on oath, now people give evidence under oath;

Under oath is the accepted American usage.

Fair enough. Under a lawyer's advice, though? Is this the same, standard American?

MissConductUS · 10/08/2022 20:19

Fair enough. Under a lawyer's advice, though? Is this the same, standard American?

You could say under, but "on the advice of counsel" would be more common.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/08/2022 21:22

MissConductUS · 10/08/2022 20:19

Fair enough. Under a lawyer's advice, though? Is this the same, standard American?

You could say under, but "on the advice of counsel" would be more common.

Thanks again!

TheSummerySilveryPussycat · 11/08/2022 14:19

Thanks Across but it wasn't the gladiators I was confused about, it was the context of Ted Cruz's utterance. I shall seek out the speech for the full awfulness Hmm.

Very glad to hear about DH Smile

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 11/08/2022 16:09

TheSummerySilveryPussycat · 11/08/2022 14:19

Thanks Across but it wasn't the gladiators I was confused about, it was the context of Ted Cruz's utterance. I shall seek out the speech for the full awfulness Hmm.

Very glad to hear about DH Smile

It was his speech at CPAC 2022; there's an account of it at www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-2022-ted-cruz-militant-rhetoric-1393449/

It seems to have been more of the same-old-same-old, except for the dimwittery of his simile – that was what made me do a double-take and realise how incredibly uneducated he is.

AcrossthePond55 · 11/08/2022 20:38

Now on CNN; AG Merrick Garland, on behalf of the DOJ, has filed with the courts to unseal the search warrant AND the property (seized) receipt. This is pretty unprecedented. I think this is a result of Doofus crying 'Witch Hunt' and loudly proclaiming that there was no valid reason for the warrant.

Now it's up to Doofus and his minions to decide whether they want to fight the request and thereby show that they actually DO have something to hide.

borntobequiet · 11/08/2022 21:24

Thank you Across.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/08/2022 11:36

AcrossthePond55 · 11/08/2022 20:38

Now on CNN; AG Merrick Garland, on behalf of the DOJ, has filed with the courts to unseal the search warrant AND the property (seized) receipt. This is pretty unprecedented. I think this is a result of Doofus crying 'Witch Hunt' and loudly proclaiming that there was no valid reason for the warrant.

Now it's up to Doofus and his minions to decide whether they want to fight the request and thereby show that they actually DO have something to hide.

Doofus has decided to roll with the punch, it seems, and tell them to publish and be damned. I wonder how he will spin "They were looking for classified documents they hadn't been able to get any other way" in his favour...

prettybird · 12/08/2022 11:47

He'll try something along the lines of "They were safer with me than with Crooked Clinton or the corrupt FBI" Confused

And his cult will swallow it Angry

DuncinToffee · 12/08/2022 12:39

Don't forget Hunter Biden's laptop....

AcrossthePond55 · 12/08/2022 14:05

prettybird · 12/08/2022 11:47

He'll try something along the lines of "They were safer with me than with Crooked Clinton or the corrupt FBI" Confused

And his cult will swallow it Angry

Possible options:

1-They were PLANTED!!!

2- Hunter Biden's laptop (per Duncin)

3-I'm the President, I declassified those

4-"Witch Hunt!!!"

5- "I barely knew those documents. I've never met them. Maybe I met them once but I've never met them"

There is a report that the search warrant specified nuclear documents were amongst the items being searched for.

www.cnn.com/2022/08/12/politics/nuclear-documents-trump-showdown-justice-department/index.html

PerkingFaintly · 12/08/2022 14:11

5- "I barely knew those documents. I've never met them. Maybe I met them once but I've never met them"

GrinGrinGrin

DuncinToffee · 12/08/2022 14:37

Trump on Truth Social suggests without evidence that nuclear materials were planted by the FBI during the Mar-a-Lago search

twitter.com/atrupar/status/1558074718422548480?t=EceF6sVpUHBUFW6C8EUfWQ&s=19

Roussette · 12/08/2022 15:28

Of COURSE he says they were planted!

He is sooooo predictable

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