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To consider breaking up over where to raise our (future) kids?

86 replies

babayagoo · 03/11/2021 14:32

Kids are still a long way off for us, but we’ve discussed where we’d like to raise them and it’s caused more than a few rows!

When do have LOs, we each, selfishly, want to raise them near our own families, who live 4.5 hours apart.

We’ve considered a “compromise” of living halfway between the two families, but even that feels a bit pants. We want the LOs to have the kind of close relationships we had with our own families growing up, and we know that’s hard to pull off if kids don’t see people regularly. Plus we know it’s so much easier with nearby family support (both of ours would be great for this).

What makes it even harder is that none of the areas in between our respective hometowns have good job particularly good prospects, so we’d have to rely on decent WFH jobs. Which probs isn’t that unlikely tbf.

Honestly this is starting to give me a bit of a wobble. I love my SO to pieces, but I love my family too and the idea of raising my own family far from them makes me feel so sad. I know it’s the same for my SO.

We’re kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.

It’s hard to know if I’m just being melodramatic, or if this is a valid thing to consider breaking up over. The problem is, the idea of breaking up makes me feel just as sad as raising kids away from my family.

Some perspective from people a bit further on in life would be good! I’m only in my late 20s and it’s hard to know which I’ll regret less in the future — ending things with a SO I love, or raising kids at least a 2hr drive from my parents, who I’m v close to.

AIBU? Loads of people raise kids away from their families and seem fine, so idk why I’m getting so worked up about it!!!

OP posts:
TheWayTheLightFalls · 03/11/2021 19:41

I wouldn’t break up over a two hour drive, and I think even a 4.5h one is surmountable once a month or so (maybe I just like driving?), but broadly YANBU. My husband is desperate to move home. To Moscow. With our three kids. I’m never going to agree. It’s not a great setup to be in. So while I’d never caution anyone against what (to me) seems a surmountable distance, I’d warn them against marrying someone Japanese or Australian or Canadian.

VeganCheesePlease · 03/11/2021 21:58

My mum's advice to me about relationships when I was a teenager (and it's solid advice) was there are two foundations you need to agree on for a relationship to work, and that's whether or not you want children, and where you want to live, and if either of those things you struggle to agree on, it won't work out long term.
In saying that, I know that when we hopefully one day get our rainbow baby, I know that his family are much better to live closer to because they are much more hands on than my family. They might drive us crazy but they play a very active part in their children's and grandchildrens lives, so it makes sense.
Compromising and living two hours away from both families will make help with childcare, and even just regular visiting really difficult

WaterBottle123 · 04/11/2021 07:16

You both sound unusually emotionally dependent on your families, this should reset when you make a family of your own. So no, don't break up over this, madness!

Haggisfish3 · 04/11/2021 07:18

Both sets of our parents moved to be closer to us when we had dc.

Couldhavebeenme3 · 04/11/2021 08:08

I met and married my ex in his home town, my family lived 3-4 hours away.

My kids saw more of my parents than his (who literally lived 5 mins away) because his parents really didn't give a toss about their grandkids, 'DIDN'T DO BABYSITTING' and were the typical hands-off grandparents from day 1. My expectations were low enough by the time dc1 was born, but their absence was a contributing factor to my pnd. My ex was also very hands-off, and this was the major reason behind our divorce. He resented my parents visiting to support but refused to step up to any parenting himself.

I would do as pp said, move closer to your own parents now, leaving him if he's not on board. I moved when dc were young, and the kids have very little contact with him now.

Nanny0gg · 04/11/2021 08:40

@Chikapu

Yes, you're being melodramatic to consider breaking up with someone you love to pieces for the sake of hypothetical children.
^^This.

You're either the most important thing in each others' lives or your not. Grandparents and help should come way down the list

Hankunamatata · 04/11/2021 08:45

I get it OP. My parents were a lot older then dp parents so I made the sacrifice and moved near dp family but we made sure we had a house big enough so my parents could stay comfortably with us. Its worked out well. Inlaws are amazing on childcare front and mucking in. Mun and dad come and stay for a couple weeks a time.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 04/11/2021 08:50

I think you're over thinking this.

Mumsnet often has posts from people who have moved to be close to one set of parents who promised childcare. This then doesnt materialise because the GP aren't as interested as they thought they would be, or they develop health issues, or they move away themselves. Unless you have siblings who have kids, you dont know exactly how they will be with kids. It would be a massive gamble to move towards one set of GP.

I'd say have kids where you live now or in the middle. See how you get on. See how the GP get on. I know some GP who have moved closer to their grandkids.

SoupDragon · 04/11/2021 08:54

Don't most people just stay where they are already when they have children?

grapewine · 04/11/2021 08:54

@Chikapu

Yes, you're being melodramatic to consider breaking up with someone you love to pieces for the sake of hypothetical children.
I'm sorry, but I agree with this.
ThePoisonousMushroom · 04/11/2021 08:55

Where do you live in relation to your families now?

ThePlantsitter · 04/11/2021 09:02

For me this isn't a question of where it's best to bring up your children, but how you make decisions as a couple when you want different things. If you can find a way to do that your relationship will strengthen massively. If you can't, then yes you may as well call it a day.

I know some people who make these decisions by each secretly ranking out of ten how important an aspect of the subject is to them, (e.g support immediately after birth; contact with siblings; whatever else you can think of) and then revealing your scores and talking about them. Sort of helps because you're breaking down the decision into its constituent parts.

coogee · 04/11/2021 09:03

Don't most people just stay where they are already when they have children?

That’s what I thought.

AtLeastThreeDrinks · 04/11/2021 09:18

My parents were down the road when we had a baby and they were a godsend, I don’t know what we would have done without them. (Struggled!) Unless you’re especially close to you MIL I think it’s natural for a lot of women to want to be close to their mums when having their own babies if you have a good relationship. Would a compromise be moving closer to them for the baby/toddler years, and then moving to his parents’ at school age?

Have you spoken to both families to gauge their plans for retirement? You might find one set more interested in grandchildren than the other, or more hands-on. It’s impossible to know what the reality will be like so yes, I do think you’d be throwing away a good thing for a huge unknown if you were to break up. Dating when wanting to settle down and start a family can be hard and emotionally draining.

RowanAlong · 04/11/2021 09:21

Yes, pick one side, don’t move half way between.

I moved to be closer to my parents. It turns out that was the wrong move, as once I had children the emotional distance between my mum and me that had been lurking there, and the differences between how she and I parent, became massively apparent! Should have moved to be nearer my in-laws, who are much more easy-going people, and bring a sense of joy and fun to the project of child-rearing, and don’t criticise my parenting.

Think hard about how you want to parent, and what sort of grandparents you really need nearby. Who will offer practical, non-judgmental support when you are at your most vulnerable and knackered? Who offers more of a feeling of warmth, optimism, jollity, etc? And be honest about it if it’s not your side of the family!

Cameleongirl · 04/11/2021 11:17

Also bear in mind that GP’s don’t always behave the way you think they will! I thought DH’s parents would want to be very involved in our children’s lives, but it turns out that after raising four of their own ( vey well, they were great parents), they’re not especially interested in GC. They liked them as babies when they couldn’t talk, but once they turned three, we’ve hardly seen them! Perhaps some people can’t deal as well with children when they’re older- that’s my assumption with my IL’s anyway. They’ve behaved in the polar opposite way to what I’d assumed!

JumperandJacket · 04/11/2021 11:21

Sounds like you both need to be more flexible. Life isn’t predictable- say you met someone happy to live near your family and then they had to move for work or because their parent was ill, or what about if you moved close to your family and then your family had to move got some reason? All sorts of things might happen and you’ll just have to roll with it.

Bringing up children close to your family would be nice but it’s not vital. Ending a good relationship over it would be crazy.

SaltySeaAir · 04/11/2021 11:31

Where do you live now? We live in Bristol (and did before kids) and both our families live in Cornwall - about 3hours away. My kids have a lovely relationship with their grandparents, they are all however quite young and visit us as often as we visit them. It can be hard not having family close by, but as long as you have a good support network of friends where you are it's all doable. When we do go down and see family it's lovely, feels like a holiday for the kids and they are properly spoilt 🙂 Seems a shame to break up an otherwise good relationship over this, I personally wouldn't do that. There must be a reason you live where you live now, I would stay where you are.

Feetupteashot · 04/11/2021 11:34

If you're not living near family now then I think you have to consider why. The reasons for being where you are now are probably valid and might be where you continue to live

There's no perfect time / person / place to have children with !

inferiorCatSlave · 04/11/2021 11:58

Mumsnet often has posts from people who have moved to be close to one set of parents who promised childcare. This then doesnt materialise because the GP aren't as interested as they thought they would be, or they develop health issues, or they move away themselves. Unless you have siblings who have kids, you dont know exactly how they will be with kids. It would be a massive gamble to move towards one set of GP.

This.

Life can throw really nasty surpises - someone I grew up with had set everything up early in life for children - house done near sibllings so cousin could grow uptogether - fertility problems were a nasty blow ffew years later they sold the house bought a project hosue changed careers and lifestyle.

Were we lived been dicated by work, house prices and later schools - sometimes that's put us close to family mostly not.

I think you might want to consider how parenting styles mesh as well as conflicts there can be difficult to resolve once children have arrived.

Malacath · 04/11/2021 12:00

It's definitely a tough one. DH and I are from different countries and we knew we would be would only be able to live near one set of parents. Never would have occurred to either of us to split up over it though. We tried my country for a while but DH found it too hard to learn the language and felt isolated and depressed because we didn't live that close to any of my family. In the end we moved to his hometown and we have his mum who has been an absolute superstar in helping wherever possible and we get on incredibly well. My own mum's health has declined and she hasn't been able to travel much in the last 5 years. Despite that, when they were here 2 months ago both my DC were incredibly close to them and regularly mention them. I speak to my parents so much more on the phone. Obviously I wish we could be closer physically more often, but my point is that the DC are emotionally close to all available grandparents and we've all accepted the situation as it is - it can definitely work.

bordermidgebite · 04/11/2021 12:09

Children can have really close relationships to grandparents even if they live miles away

It is different, rather than seeing each other every week, they might spend 2 weeks at a time living with them

DevilWaresPrada · 04/11/2021 23:09

Do you do jobs that you can WFH? Does one set of parents have spare rooms so you could stay with them for a week a month at least until the kids go to school?
Do you have lots of space for parents to come and stay?
Could you buy a house with an annexe (or two 😀)

5foot5 · 04/11/2021 23:22

:16WaterBottle123

You both sound unusually emotionally dependent on your families, this should reset when you make a family of your own. So no, don't break up over this, madness!

Absolutely this.

Also, and I hope this will not apply, but you don't even know if you can have kids yet.

If you have a DP who feels like the one, surely that is the main thing. What if you threw thatcaway and then DC never happened anyway?

Skysblue · 04/11/2021 23:44

The sad thing about this is it sounds like you have so much in common.

I think if you’re only willing to raise children near your family then you need to move back there and narrow your dating pool to local guys. If you break up with your current partner over this there is no guarantee that future partners will be keen to move house to your hometown on demand. Also there’s no guarantee of meeting a guy this good again. I broke up with my first boyfrind assuming that good guys grew on trees but it took 4 yrs (and a lot of misery/lonliness) for next good guy to appear.

Depnds a lot what your family is. Like if you only have elderly parents then it’s not rally worth moving to thm and they can probably move in woth or near to you at some ppont. But if yoh left behind a big clan of extended family that you long to be part of again then all I can do is suggest you rejoin it or say goodbye to thenidea of raising family in it.

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