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what you think of halloween?

344 replies

adam7485 · 24/10/2021 18:40

. ok. halloween can be a fantastic time for all people kids and everyone, but am i the only person to think it brings the worst out of people? 2019 before covid i got a taxi to a local pub who were having a halloween party and we almost had a nasty accident as some kids threw something in front of the car. how we didn't have an accident was probably more luck than judgement. to think that a good celebration and fun has become tainted by the actions of a certain group of people?

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TheKeatingFive · 25/10/2021 20:16

It's not even food waste though, is it, as the pumpkins aren't really grown for food.

Do these people worry about cut flowers, holly wreaths and Christmas trees as well as pumpkins I wonder?

Sparklingbrook · 25/10/2021 20:19

@TheKeatingFive

It's not even food waste though, is it, as the pumpkins aren't really grown for food.

Do these people worry about cut flowers, holly wreaths and Christmas trees as well as pumpkins I wonder?

Good point. Where is the line drawn? I wonder what the stance on Mistletoe is?
AosSi · 25/10/2021 20:23

@Sparklingbrook

To be fair worrying about Halloween 'food waste' is a new one on me, I'll add it to the MN Halloween Bingo Card. Someone must have a full house by now.
Well we do have the famous MN chicken already...about time we added the MN pumpkin.
mathanxiety · 25/10/2021 20:25

@QueenDanu,, the Hallowe'en bonfires are a native Irish tradition, nothing to do with the Fifth of November..

QueenDanu · 25/10/2021 20:28

Ah right, thanks.

luckylavender · 25/10/2021 20:28

@TheKeatingFive - trust me I don't make it consumerist at all. I'll buy some sweets just in case and my husband will eat them afterwards.

TheKeatingFive · 25/10/2021 20:30

trust me I don't make it consumerist at all

And neither do plenty of other people

Explosivefarts · 25/10/2021 20:32

I don’t like it . I have a few elderly neighbours one of them gets so upset with people coming to her door . She sits in the dark so no one thinks she is home . I think people should only go to decorated houses.

luckylavender · 25/10/2021 20:32

@TheKeatingFive - I'm out after this. If you cannot see that a big majority of people who do celebrate, celebrate in a way that is far far removed from the origins then I don't know what to say.

AosSi · 25/10/2021 20:36

[quote luckylavender]@TheKeatingFive - I'm out after this. If you cannot see that a big majority of people who do celebrate, celebrate in a way that is far far removed from the origins then I don't know what to say. [/quote]
We can say the same about Christmas though, surely? Santa, Christmas Eve boxes, Christmas trees and crackers. All not in keeping with the traditional Christmas.

Ditto Easter. Chocolate eggs certainly weren't around when Jesus was on the cross.

LiJo2015 · 25/10/2021 20:38

I have never celebrated Halloween. I really don't like how commercial it has become. With regards to trick or treating I don't view it as fun but scrounging. I have told my son - if he wants sweets he can just buy some, no need to bother the neighbours!

TheKeatingFive · 25/10/2021 20:38

If you cannot see that a big majority of people who do celebrate, celebrate in a way that is far far removed from the origins then I don't know what to say.

And if you don't understand that traditions evolve and develop over time? Then I don't know what to say.

The basic fundamentals of dressing up and trick or treating haven't actually changed much from several hundred years ago. I now carve pumpkins not turnips. My children are more likely to get sweets than monkey nuts. But there are far more similarities than differences.

TheKeatingFive · 25/10/2021 20:39

We can say the same about Christmas though, surely? Santa, Christmas Eve boxes, Christmas trees and crackers. All not in keeping with the traditional Christmas.

All traditions evolve over time. Why that's somehow new news or distasteful to people I don't know.

AosSi · 25/10/2021 20:41

@TheKeatingFive

We can say the same about Christmas though, surely? Santa, Christmas Eve boxes, Christmas trees and crackers. All not in keeping with the traditional Christmas.

All traditions evolve over time. Why that's somehow new news or distasteful to people I don't know.

Absolutely. I don't know why people give out about Halloween being 'Americanised' though when the other major holidays aren't sticking rigidly to old traditions. I think a lot of it is MNers seeing Halloween as low class.
XenoBitch · 25/10/2021 20:43

I love Halloween. Used to plaster the front of my house with decorations, and happily give out sweets to the kids in costume. Would get around 60-70 kids visit on that one evening.

It is only on MN I have seen people get in a bother about food waste from pumpkins.

FourTeaFallOut · 25/10/2021 20:46

I now carve pumpkins not turnips

I'm so happy that we have had a turnip - pumpkin changeover. I don't think I'd have the patience to hollow out a turnip with a potato peeler. I do miss the smell though. I wonder if there's a black and decker attachment that would work?

TheKeatingFive · 25/10/2021 20:47

I think a lot of it is MNers seeing Halloween as low class.

It's an interesting point, because I see something similar with the new Christmas practices like Christmas Eve boxes and EOTS.

Traditionally trends always came 'top down', i.e. we started following what our 'betters' were doing, as shared by traditional media. But social media has seen a complete shift towards more peer to peer or what might be uncharitably called 'bottom up' new trends emerging.

There's a certain type of person, amply represented on MN, who reacts quite badly to this. Grin

GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou · 25/10/2021 20:47

Ahh, it never quite feels like Halloween until we have one of these threads on MN, does it?

Begging children, check!

Trick or treating is a new thing, check!

It's so horribly American nowadays, check!

TheKeatingFive · 25/10/2021 20:48

I'm so happy that we have had a turnip - pumpkin changeover.

Oh god yeah, me too. They were a bitch to carve.

And I hated eating the turnip afterwards. We had days and days of the stuff. Envy

elizabethdraper · 25/10/2021 20:49

Being irish this is a huge night ful of fun and mischief

We will be carving our turnips, dressing up to confuse the demons as the veil between our worlds thin

We will be talking about about our friends and relatives who have passed. Looking back on the year and letting go of what no longer serves us and embracing of what does.
We will be getting ready for our long slumber/time for healing and sleeping

AosSi · 25/10/2021 20:52

@TheKeatingFive

I think a lot of it is MNers seeing Halloween as low class.

It's an interesting point, because I see something similar with the new Christmas practices like Christmas Eve boxes and EOTS.

Traditionally trends always came 'top down', i.e. we started following what our 'betters' were doing, as shared by traditional media. But social media has seen a complete shift towards more peer to peer or what might be uncharitably called 'bottom up' new trends emerging.

There's a certain type of person, amply represented on MN, who reacts quite badly to this. Grin

We need to get Mrs Hinch on board, that'll really cement it as Wrong in the eyes of the Mrs Buckets. Grin Wink
GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou · 25/10/2021 20:53

I only ever managed to carve a turnip once. I used a spoon and my wrist has never recovered.

My dad used to have to do three in a row.

TheKeatingFive · 25/10/2021 20:55

We need to get Mrs Hinch on board, that'll really cement it as Wrong in the eyes of the Mrs Buckets

😂

MummyJ12 · 25/10/2021 20:56

Maybe it’s because my dad was Irish but we have always celebrated Halloween and I’ve always loved it. When I was younger we would carve a turnip instead of a pumpkin (no pumpkins in the 80s where I lived!) I much preferred it to Guy Fawkes/Bonfire night.
It’s a bit of fun. A good excuse to get together with friends and have a party.
We have a rule in our family, when the kids are trick or treating; we only knock on the doors of decorated houses or those with pumpkins outside.

Skinnytan · 25/10/2021 21:00

My mum is Irish but we never did anything vaguely Hallowe'en as a child. The horror element scares the hell out of me but i like that feeling of the worlds eclipsing each other.