Ear piercing without consent at Meadowhall in Sheffield (might be triggering)

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I'm amazed that I can't find another thread on this – and I know I'm not being unreasonable to find this video incredibly upsetting. Poor child, perhaps six or seven being pinned to the floor while having her ears pierced in a jewellery store at the Meadowhall in Sheffield, screaming her head off saying "no no no".
Should ear piercing be banned for say under 12s, until they're old enough to consent?
Warning - the video is very distressing to watch: twitter.com/mrscjos/status/1450020437744885761?s=10

Wow, I wish I hadn't watched that video. How awful. Poor child.
Both the staff & the people holding the child down need a very good talking too.

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DO I NEED TO CONSENT TO HAVE MY EARS PIERCED?
As a general rule, if you are under the age of 16 years old, you will need your parent or legal guardian present with you to consent for you to have your ears pierced. That age consent may differ depending on what territory or country you live in. Please consult your nearest Lovisa store for further information. Make sure you bring a form of identification with you to verify your age such as a driver’s license, school identification, birth certificate or passport.

@LittleMysSister

Whoaaaa I wasn't saying I support it, just meant that I wouldn't be surprised in the current world of not even being able to film your own child's school play if that was the reason why they were traced, especially as the footage shows the child.

Do you actually not realise why parents can’t video school plays?

God I wish I hadn’t watched that. Awful, just awful.

'I've seen a tweet that the person who took the video has been traced, I guess this is because they're a witness. I really hope that the mother gets prosecuted.

Probably more likely to be for filming and posting without permission.'

Why would you be prosecuted for filming in a public place? That's not an offence.

@ZoeCM

I'm not sure the mother could have guessed that taking her daughter to get her ears pierced would result in a police investigation. Let's hope she takes this as a wake-up call, rather than blaming her daughter for making a fuss.

It's not taking her for the piercings that's the issue. I'm sure she's aware that forcibly restraining a child whilst allowing someone to assault them would result in a criminal investigation.

Sirzy - yes, I was 5 and fully understood... 5 year olds aren't stupid, it the common age most children unpromptedly ask for ears piercing.

My mam actively tried to discourage it and explained exactly what it was hoping she could put me off the idea but after months of badgering she gave in.

What 'prompted' me to want it done?
There was a huge clip on piercing craze at my school and I wanted 'real' ones lol.

Entirely different to this video or piercing a baby who 'doesn't understand'.

@SmellyOldOwls

'I've seen a tweet that the person who took the video has been traced, I guess this is because they're a witness. I really hope that the mother gets prosecuted.

Probably more likely to be for filming and posting without permission.'

Why would you be prosecuted for filming in a public place? That's not an offence.

People seem to have no understanding of the law, you see people declaring that they 'can't be filmed without permission' and I always wonder where they got that idea.

Anyone can film you in public, It's how CCTV works lol.

it the common age most children unpromptedly ask for ears piercing.

You’ve done a survey?

What 'prompted' me to want it done?
There was a huge clip on piercing craze at my school and I wanted 'real' ones lol.

If the craze had been transfer tattoos and you had wanted a real one, should your mum have let you get one because at 5 you understood it would hurt?

@mam0918

Sirzy - yes, I was 5 and fully understood... 5 year olds aren't stupid, it the common age most children unpromptedly ask for ears piercing.

My mam actively tried to discourage it and explained exactly what it was hoping she could put me off the idea but after months of badgering she gave in.

What 'prompted' me to want it done?
There was a huge clip on piercing craze at my school and I wanted 'real' ones lol.

Entirely different to this video or piercing a baby who 'doesn't understand'.

Sorry I am still not buying that a 5 year old can give FULLY INFORMED consent.

Just because you want it doing doesn’t mean you can understand the whole thing. You where 5!

Of course a 5 year old doesn’t fully understand what they’re doing by getting a piercing. They have no concept of aftercare or the risk of infection or that the piercings might be lopsided. All they know is they get jewellery and it will be sore for a bit.

@VividImaginationAgain

As a granny who has helped restrained her grandson, in hospital, for an urgent medical procedure (because his poor Mum was completely distraught with it all) I cannot believe that a loving family would choose to put their child through this. I felt bad enough doing it in a life threatening situation.

Restraining a child for injections, blood tests, stitches etc while distressing is necessary. This ain’t. You have nothing to feel bad for x

This is actually child abuse and they should be held accountable for this

My girls both desperately wanted their ears pierced when they were young. We gave in after a year when they were 6/7.
We made sure they had witnessed a couple of piercings before hand, and made it clear it would hurt and need lots of after care.

So personally banning it for under 12 is excessive.

However

Any piercer who carries on of the piercee is saying no is wrong.
It shouldn't happen and the premises should loose their licence.

If the police are looking into it I am glad and hope it stops other parents and the bloody staff doing it and looking on to think again.

And yet circumcision of baby boys is all fine and dandy! That's a circle that cannot be squared.

I can’t believe the staff did this.

Shocking and really dangerous.

Poor little girl was terrified and resisting hard. Why on earth did the staff member go along with this.

She’s not a doctor giving a life saving injection.

Something ver wrong with the parents and the staff

@MrsRobbieHart

Of course a 5 year old doesn’t fully understand what they’re doing by getting a piercing. They have no concept of aftercare or the risk of infection or that the piercings might be lopsided. All they know is they get jewellery and it will be sore for a bit.

As I mentioned earlier little girls might want to have ears pierced but have no idea how it’s done (unless they’ve watched it being done) and yes brief pain. All they see is pretty earrings abc maybe a small hole in the ears.

I’m amazed someone would be so incensed by this to post a link to the video then not return to comment in 13 pages.

Gosh that's a distressing video, I have had to restrain my own child on occasion, to give him suppositories, he has severe autism and learning disabilities and also chronic constipation, it's horrible and breaks my heart every time as he doesn't understand why I have to do it, i cant understand why any parent would do that for something so unnecessary.

@VividImaginationAgain you're a great Nan and a wonderful Mom x

@SleepingStandingUp thank you.

I am a very blessed mum and gran. My grandson has been through so much but is such a cheerful, happy little boy.

This is heartbreaking. Another parent here that had to physically hold down their child for a medical procedure - after the third try he looked at me as they were about to do it again, and said 'No please Mama.' I stopped the procedure and the nurses agreed. Although they are children, they need to know that they are safe with their parent. (It was a non urgent procedure)
He was 5, and he's 13 now, and he always remembers that I asked them to stop.

That’s lovely @Hotpinkangel19 did he eventually have it done?

I think ear piercing should be 16 and up only tbh!