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To think this class should be closed?

668 replies

Jenster03 · 18/10/2021 23:11

I'm a part time primary teacher and in the space of two weeks, 14 children have tested positive out of 30 in my class.
We've had 2 or 3 return in that time, but more and more are testing positive. Now my teaching assistant has it.
AIBU to think we should be sending the class home and remote learning? How would you feel if you were a parent of a child in my class?
Oh, and I'm pretty anxious about my level of exposure too!

OP posts:
LampLighter414 · 19/10/2021 17:15

Nope, time to just get on with it I think and for people to do their jobs as normal.

BeardyButton · 19/10/2021 17:15

@Babybellblue

It's not a case of wanting to be done with covid, it's a case of basic survival for many. I need to go to work to put food on the table and pay my mortgage. I cannot do this if my child is not in school. I have given up plenty for the vulnerable in the last 18 months. So yes it is now survival of the fittest.. I refuse to starve or be made homeless. Deal with it.
“Deal with it”. Ok! Gotcha. I will. You ve scared me into it and convinced me of the righteousness of it with your persuasive argument.

I ll deal with it. Until I won’t. Because the hospitals can’t. And the schools, with all teachers sick, won’t. And society can’t.

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2021 17:17

“Deal with it”. Ok! Gotcha. I will. You ve scared me into it and convinced me of the righteousness of it with your persuasive argument

Well what are you going to do? Pay her rent for her?

motherrunner · 19/10/2021 17:17

@LampLighter414

Nope, time to just get on with it I think and for people to do their jobs as normal.
I would but I’m at home ill so that’s two days my pupils have been ‘taught’ by cover supervisors.
BeardyButton · 19/10/2021 17:24

@TheKeatingFive

“Deal with it”. Ok! Gotcha. I will. You ve scared me into it and convinced me of the righteousness of it with your persuasive argument

Well what are you going to do? Pay her rent for her?

Yes! I will pay her rent. And I will give her an income to make sure she can make ends meet. And I’ll do the same for everyone who cannot work in order to protect society from imploding.

O my gosh I ve turned into a state. Well that’s fab as I always wanted to have territorial rights and the legitimate use of coercion. Hopefully, when I ve suppressed this surge, I ll not trade everyone’s hard work for short term populist political gain. I ll learn my lesson and go slow. Spend some money making schools safe etc.

It’s a plan!

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2021 17:27

O my gosh I ve turned into a state.

Well this has taken a turn for the creative.

Babybellblue · 19/10/2021 17:32

@TheKeatingFive

O my gosh I ve turned into a state.

Well this has taken a turn for the creative.

GrinGrin
Sunshinealligator · 19/10/2021 17:37

As a parent, who is high risk and pregnant I'd prefer to keep covid out of my house if at all possible, I'd expect that the school would have sent the class/year home at that point

julieca · 19/10/2021 17:41

This will carry on, and yes classes will close because too many staff are off ill. In my City, people seem to be falling like flies this week.
You can say we should carry on as normal as much as you want. But you cant stop being ill.

Hyly68 · 19/10/2021 17:47

@BeardyButton Everyone takes risk in many different sectors, not just teachers. As I said you can’t shut everything down, sensible measures, yes.

Would you be able to take time off to educate your children, financially? Without losing your job? If schools close? You can’t assume all parents can do this? Closing school has a huge impact on job loss, the financial sector, homelessness and poverty. You can’t assume because you’re able to do that, everyone else can.

Are your children in school at present?

CherryBlossomWinter · 19/10/2021 17:54

@RedToothBrush I already agreed with you on the whole to be honest. I don’t think you can ‘force’ a child to take an lft anymore than you can to take a PCR test. I have a child with SN and they do not like the tests. However many children are totally fine with them, and they could be an option to help with mitigations. They could be used instead of self isolating for example, so it would be a choice.

julieca · 19/10/2021 17:57

@Hyly68 my husband has covid is self-employed and is losing money. We are not well off.

CherryBlossomWinter · 19/10/2021 18:03

@motherrunner

Some of these posts make me despair with humanity. When did everyone just become so angry all the time?
I’m not sure! I hoping that it’s just these boards.

I think people are saying there is either a load of scared people obsessed with Covid continually calling for lockdowns - or those wanting to ‘get on with life’ living with Covid. I don’t think that’s true, I think we are more united than not. We don’t want lockdowns, we do want to live life more normally, it’s sensible to take notice that we’ve got over double the deaths and case rates of Europe (and in the world). Most would be fine with more sensible precautions I think also. I think there is just a lack of understanding that most sensible mitigations are not being used. That is the problem. We just need our leaders to do that. We don’t need to change much of our behaviour (except we do need to wear masks on the tube!).

BeardyButton · 19/10/2021 18:13

@CherryBlossomWinter you speak sense with a level head. I think that’s to be applauded. But doesn’t it make you angry? The situation in schools? That some don’t even have CO2 monitors?

Howshouldibehave · 19/10/2021 18:34

Goodness, so many people on here furious that their children’s mental health is at risk if schools close, but teachers aren’t even prioritised for a booster!

Schools are ABSOLUTELY vital, ooooh, but not THAT vital.

Hyly68 · 19/10/2021 19:17

[quote julieca]@Hyly68 my husband has covid is self-employed and is losing money. We are not well off.[/quote]
I’m not saying people are well off, I’m saying that long term school closures are not financially sustainable for many families, if children aren’t at school, parents can’t work.

SheikhMaraca · 19/10/2021 19:37

@Howshouldibehave

Goodness, so many people on here furious that their children’s mental health is at risk if schools close, but teachers aren’t even prioritised for a booster!

Schools are ABSOLUTELY vital, ooooh, but not THAT vital.

They are of working age, why should they be prioritised when they are not in a vulnerable category?
PinkiOcelot · 19/10/2021 19:40

Yep, because closing everything down works wonders for suppressing this virus.

julieca · 19/10/2021 19:41

@Hyly68 that is a strawman. I have seen no one argue for long term closures of schools. But when covid is running riot through a class then it affects any parent in that class who cannot work from home.

Sherrystrull · 19/10/2021 19:51

@SheikhMaraca

Because seriously ill teachers affect the quality of education your child receives. Seriously ill support staff means no children in school get support. Seriously ill dinner staff means teachers do dinner duty and don't do marking/intervention at lunch which means they have less time after school to produce quality lessons.

rrhuth · 19/10/2021 19:57

@PinkiOcelot

Yep, because closing everything down works wonders for suppressing this virus.
Confused well yes it does

It might not be desirable but shutting things down definitely does suppress transmission

CallmeHendricks · 19/10/2021 19:59

"They are of working age, why should they be prioritised when they are not in a vulnerable category?"

You want schools open and fully-staffed? Then get behind supporting booster vaccinations for the people you're going to want to facilitate that.

SheikhMaraca · 19/10/2021 20:01

[quote Sherrystrull]@SheikhMaraca

Because seriously ill teachers affect the quality of education your child receives. Seriously ill support staff means no children in school get support. Seriously ill dinner staff means teachers do dinner duty and don't do marking/intervention at lunch which means they have less time after school to produce quality lessons. [/quote]
As I posted up thread, the ONS confirms that only 0.009% of the population of the uk are both of working age and CEV.

Your hysteria just isn’t supported by the facts.

Sherrystrull · 19/10/2021 20:04

It's not hysteria, it's reality. I've seen it go through 25% of the staff in my school in the last half term and seen the effect on everyone. People with CEV relatives are scared. People are exhausted from doing the job of two or three extra people.

Open your eyes.

julieca · 19/10/2021 20:05

Sheikh all children virtually have been removed from CEV. So what proportion of adults of working age from all adults are cev?
Also do you have a link for that? Because the figure released before was much higher.