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Not to invite 'best friends' to 3 year olds birthday?

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nurserypolitics · 18/10/2021 16:01

DD is about to turn 3. She has two 'best friends' who she's known since she was a baby and has been in nursery with, and had weekend play dates with, since then. Let's call them Ann and George. Recently they have all also been playing with another little girl, Julian. DD is the last to turn 3, the 'parties' we've been having so far have essentially been play dates with cake, and have featured all of the above. So lovely small groups of 3 or 4 kids, nice and relaxed.

Unfortunately, Ann, who she is closest to, it moving very far away soon, before her birthday. DD is devastated by this, and doesn't really understand why Ann won't be at her party. We've already said we'll also invite another friend who she plays with on our road. She has, in the l week or so, started talking about inviting two other little girls in nursery as well, Peppa and Suzy, to her party. The problem is, I really don't think she actually plays much with Peppa and Suzy at all, and actually I think reading between the lines they may be a bit mean to her and she may be inviting the 'cool kids'.

I know Peppa's mother through NCT, and I know Peppa had a party with some of her closest nursery friends a while ago and DD wasn't invited (absolutely no issue with that btw, and reflects what little I know about friendship groups). During covid her 'group' was split by age, and Peppa and Suzy were in the slightly older group, and now they've merged again I get the impression there's a bit of the 'we're older and cooler' vibe going on, and sometimes they say they won't play with her. There are loads of other kids she DOES talk about playing with in the day, who if I were going to invite extra children from nursery I would say 'oh could you pass on a message to Billy's mother' or similar, based on who she regularly says she's playing with. So this has totally thrown me as she quite often says things like Peppa and Suzy wouldn't play with her, or said she wasn't allowed in their house, or she's a 'little' girl and they're big girls. And they're the ones she's adamant she wants, not the other friends I know she does play with.

I have Peppa's mother's details, I could v easily ask her, and probably get details for Suzy's parents too, but basically DD has had a rough time recently and with Ann not being there I don't think a 'big' (7 kids, plus baby siblings) party is a good idea and its likely to end in a meltdown. And I know they're changeable but I'm not sure she actually is playing with Suzy and Peppa all that much. But she's said it almost every day for two weeks. We've been trying to down play birthday chat but they're all basically friends from NCT originally who ended up in the same nursery so the birthdays and parties roll on one after the other.

I am aware I'm massively overthinking this, but if I hold my ground, stick to original invitees will she just go along with that? Or would two extra little girls be a good distraction from Ann not being there and it might be a way to get them all to play better together? Advise from more experienced parents would be great, I keep going around in circles.

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BananaPB · 18/10/2021 16:55

Massively overthinking.

My kids are teens but when they were 3, happily playing alongside another 3 year old and not getting into squabbles with grabbing etc was seen as the sign as friendly behaviour (ie not being antisocial)

Keep the invite list as it is and relax. If your dd becomes closer to the older girls then you can invite them round some time but tell your daughter that invites have been sent so the guest list is final or "maybe next year"

MadeItOut21 · 18/10/2021 16:57

Errmm she's 3! She doesn't need a party with her friends, just some cake and family. Why start with the bday party stress so early? You have many, many bday parties to organise when she's old enough to remember them

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 18/10/2021 16:58

Just ask nursery who she plays with the most rather than trying to second guess her.

I dont think 3 year olds have any concept of coolness or trying to get in with a cool crowd though I think they are generally a bit in awe of older kids (though if you're all nct friends the age difference should be negligible)

esloquehay · 18/10/2021 17:00

Fucking hell, OP, you've put far too much thought into this and embellished somewhat. They're toddlers/preschoolers, not Mean Girls 3 wannabes.

Tilltheend99 · 18/10/2021 17:00

Can you really tell who are the cool kids out of toddlers in a nursery. I think you are overly involved and concerned in something that is not as important as you think.

Yes she was friends with Anna a week or so ago and now she is friends with girls from nursery. It all changes very quickly at that age and she won’t even remember who came by next birthday.

If on the other hand the real issue is you are better friends with the parents of certain girls and would enjoy some adult discussion at the party then just invite Anna as well.

MoiraNotRuby · 18/10/2021 17:03

I love a toddler party and they are some of my DC happiest memories. My advice is hire a hall, pick a theme and invite the whole lot. With parents staying. I know everyone else will say it doesn't matter. But to me it did. No friendship issues with 30 kids invited.

2pm. Party starts. Colouring/v simple craft. Music in background. Cups of tea for parents. Bouncy castle if you are having one. Balloons and large toys if not.

2.30pm. 30 mins of party games. Finish with lazy lions. When child is tapped they can wake up and go and sit at the party food table. One by one is a bit calmer than a stampede.

3.00pm food. Savoury first. After 20 minutes or so, bring out biscuits.

3.30pm sing happy birthday and blow out candles.

Then disco time (ie same as first half hour more or less) whilst cake is cut and put in bags.

3.55pm time to give out the party bags and say thanks for coming.

4pm DONE. Clear up, go home, eat leftovers.

My DC are teens now but I do miss the parties! Have fun OP.

Viviennemary · 18/10/2021 17:03

I really don't think there are cool kids at the age of barely three. Only in the parents heads. Just invite them and Anne if shes still around for the party.

MsTSwift · 18/10/2021 17:03

What have I just read?! How can a three year old be cool! The mind boggles. This is the most non issue of non issues I have ever read.

Ellie56 · 18/10/2021 17:04

Grin Grin at "cool" 3 year olds!

You need to chill out OP. If you are going into overdrive like this about a 3 year old's birthday you will be a having a full on nervous breakdown by the time she is 7.

DockOTheBay · 18/10/2021 17:06

Peppa and Suzy were in the slightly older group, and now they've merged again I get the impression there's a bit of the 'we're older and cooler' vibe going on, and sometimes they say they won't play with her
I don't really think 3 year olds think this way. My daughter is 4.5 and she "falls out" with her best friend at least once a day and they say they don't want to play together, and then they forget about it 5 minutes later.

Really don't read too much into it, just do whatever is easiest/preferable to you.

BoredZelda · 18/10/2021 17:07

What’s with the glut of “let’s call them” posts. Do people think MN has suddenly lost the ability to keep track of people without using names?

users689033 · 18/10/2021 17:10

Are you joking?

How does a 2yo have the lifestyle of a hormonal teenager?

WorriedGiraffe · 18/10/2021 17:10

You are massively overthinking the social circle of a 2 year old. Let her invite who she wants, they may not get along amazingly at nursery but play better outside of nursery, and if they don’t who cares they are 3! Theyl change friends lots over the years, and you should allow them space to.

MaggieFS · 18/10/2021 17:10

My son has just turned three so I mean this kindly. You're overthinking. Two of my son's "best friends" have just left nursery to attend different pre schools. We were worried. Three weeks in they occasionally get a mention but barely a second thought.

Just go with the rigid list ones. If she asks about the others just say they couldn't make it and she'll probably move on.

Isawthathaggis · 18/10/2021 17:11

I hate to jump on too OP, but in the kindest way, she’s 3.

You’ll send yourself grey if you keep this up. Invite the mums you like. The kids are secondary.

MsTSwift · 18/10/2021 17:12

Also the glut of parents of primary aged or even preschool aged kids talking about “cool” and “popular” children 🙄🙄. There’s something quite sinister about it. These are little children not teens at Beverly Hills 90210. I try not to use that language with my teens makes them either big headed or insecure and it’s far more nuanced anyway.

nanbread · 18/10/2021 17:12

Let her invite who she wants to invite. Unless they are likely to hit her.

It might be a good opportunity for you to see what the dynamic is like.

TeachesOfPeaches · 18/10/2021 17:14

My son is 5 and never had a birthday party, I'm taking him to Legoland this year. Previous years have been London Zoo etc, he has a great time

RobinPenguins · 18/10/2021 17:14

For a 3rd birthday I’d probably just invite based on which parents I’d rather have there!

BrilliantBetty · 18/10/2021 17:14

Well this gave me a giggle.
She's 3.
Do nothing or do something it's fine either way! Might as well keep it small and save the politics for 5 years time.

Floralnomad · 18/10/2021 17:18

3 yr olds don’t realise who the ‘ cool , popular’ kids are , they are fickle beings . You are seriously over thinking this .

ILiedAboutBeingTheOutdoorType · 18/10/2021 17:19

Stick to the original plan of George, Julian and neighbour. Any more would be too many to cope with at that age. If she's only started talking about these 2 new girls in last week or two she may have forgotten about them again by next week.

(You could also invite Timmy the dog if he's free 😉)

peachgreen · 18/10/2021 17:19

She's not even 3! DD is coming up to 4 and wouldn't give two hoots who was invited to her birthday party, or even if she had one! Invite who you like and don't make an issue out of it - DD will have forgotten Ann even exists within a few weeks unless you keep reminding her!

Icebreaker99 · 18/10/2021 17:20

I take it this isn't a school nursery? So potentially Peppa and Suzy won't feature in her life next year?

Try not to over think it too much but if they are being unkind talk to the nursery nurse so they can keep an eye on it.

Alternatively talk to Mummy Pig and just invite Peppa, that will put that sheep in her place Grin

BigRedBoat · 18/10/2021 17:22

My dd is about to turn 3, I asked the nursery staff for a handful of names of kids she plays with most, I think they are probably just the ones in on the same days as her. She tells me 'so and so is my best friend' and it's always someone different.

I think you Are overestimating the friendship ties of tiny children who barely know what being friends means. Some kids are bossier/more outgoing but it's really not about being 'cool' at this age, it's just their personalities. Also presumably parents will be present at this party so will supervise and intervene at any 'bad behaviour'.