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DIL self-obsessed or what?

92 replies

Casiloco · 12/10/2021 02:35

Changed some details as otherwise outing.

Elder DB is essentially a good, kind man but a bit odd and has often been on the fringes of the family (4 siblings) partly due to SIL who has been rehearsing for the role of victim ever since I've known her. Was always "not feeling too good" " think I'm coming down with something" or " still getting over a bug" whenever anyone asked.

Sadly, she is genuinely not v well now with a chronic condition and I probably should be more sympathetic. She now largely absents herself from family gatherings and DB comes on his own. He has recently had a minor heart condition and we offered help, as she could/would not go to the hospital with him. In the end, that help was not needed but our understanding was that the treatment had gone well.

Me, my DH and immediate family have been through a really horrendous time over the last couple of years (I know, who hasn't?!) but on top of the normal pandemic-related stuff, we have had seriously high levels of work stress, one DD with a serious condition which meant many hours of support for her and DSiL were needed. DS has been awaiting treatment for v painful and exhausting condition (urgent list for many months!) and has also needed practical and emotional help. He and his wife have just had first baby and got a stroppy message from her this week, complaining that they didn't even know she was pregnant and that the announcement that DS made on FB didn't show on her feed.

Apparently they are fed up with being the last to know and my DB has had follow-on complications which mean they have had an awful 18 months ( which may, of course, be true).
I have felt close to breaking point mentally at times over the last little while and exhausted at the end of each day. Have found it hard to remember who has been told what and find that a strain. This is not like me as I am normally the one making sure that everyone is Ok.

DS has also not been in a position to manage making sure that everyone was" in the picture", given his health.

Having explained all that, she then queried why I had not let them know of our troubles (she is the last person I would go to for support) which is ironic bearing in mind she hadn't let me know that DB was still having health problems and needing treatment.

There was then an exchange of messages which predictably barely mentioned our situation or asked any questions and just focused on how dreadful everything was for them. She mentioned that just a text or phone message " would have been nice" but why is that always down to me? She could have done the same!

Sorry, just venting really, but she has seriously pissed me off.

OP posts:
NerrSnerr · 12/10/2021 07:41

Having explained all that, she then queried why I had not let them know of our troubles (she is the last person I would go to for support) which is ironic bearing in mind she hadn't let me know that DB was still having health problems and needing treatment.

Sorry if I haven't followed properly but did you mean she didn't let you know that your son was still having health problems? Why would she tell you about that and not your own child?

starrynight21 · 12/10/2021 07:43

Why didn't your son tell the family about the expected baby ?

TasteTheMeatNotTheHeat · 12/10/2021 07:48

Why are the men in your family not expected to communicate anything themselves?

Mantlemoose · 12/10/2021 07:59

Fault on all sides as I read it

C8H10N4O2 · 12/10/2021 08:04

@TasteTheMeatNotTheHeat

Why are the men in your family not expected to communicate anything themselves?
^This.

Its not down to your SiL to manage your brother's relationship with you. Hold the men in your family responsible for communicating on their own or their family's behalf.

You are very focused on the difficulties within your own family. Fair enough but you then dismiss the problems in a sibling's family without even communicating enough to know what they are.

You dismiss SiL's longer term health as "made up", frankly I'd not bother visiting a SiL who did that to me.

Bluntness100 · 12/10/2021 08:07

I also think there is fault on both sides and you clearly hate her. Just own that.

I don’t think it should be down to you to communicate solely if that’s what you’re saying, you’re immediate family don’t step up but having a grand kid/child is something normally shared.

TheUnbearable · 12/10/2021 08:12

You say DB is odd and has always been on the edge if the family so assuming he is a poor communicator plus her being whingy about her health, is that the only negative thing she did at first for you to not like her?

It’s pretty obvious you just don’t like her at all.

Swimmingwiththefishes · 12/10/2021 08:14

Sorry OP but I found that quite difficult to follow. Especially with DSIL as (I assume) son in law? And sis in law? You then mention your sons wife and say 'she' afterwards but do you mean his wife or have you gone back to your sis in law?

I think the gist of it is you sis in law is upset they didn't know a baby was due from their nephew and his wife (your son?)

I do agree despite a lot going on it's a bit strange not to mention it to your bro and reads like you haven't spoken to him at all in 9 months otherwise surely it would have come up?

I also agree you sound quite dismissive of their health issues. But your DSIL also sounds like hard work!

MichelleScarn · 12/10/2021 08:16

Why are her health issues her being whingy about her health, and you are very dismissive about DB and SIL stressors, but mention all of yours like they require to be considered by everyone? Agree she could probably write a similar post about you!

wolfstarling · 12/10/2021 08:18

YABU - ask yourself honestly, do you resent SIL regardless of how she behaves?

2Two · 12/10/2021 08:19

@NerrSnerr

Having explained all that, she then queried why I had not let them know of our troubles (she is the last person I would go to for support) which is ironic bearing in mind she hadn't let me know that DB was still having health problems and needing treatment.

Sorry if I haven't followed properly but did you mean she didn't let you know that your son was still having health problems? Why would she tell you about that and not your own child?

No, she means OP's brother, her husband. As OP said.
NerrSnerr · 12/10/2021 08:22

Ah yes @2Two. I now understand. I was confused with the DIL and SIL mix up. It still stands though. Why couldn't he tell the OP about his health?

CharityDingle · 12/10/2021 08:22

"a text or phone message would have been nice" but why is that always down to me? She could have done the same!

Absolutely. I would make that point and leave it at that. Don't get into competitive misery with her.
Had a friend who always left it to me to keep in touch, arrange to meet and so on. Anytime I messaged, I was always greeted with a sarcastic 'long time no hear'. I pointed out that she had a phone and access to email, same as I had, ie she didn't have to sit waiting for me to get in touch. These things work both ways. I'm not the most selfless person, but she was actually extremely selfish.

SeasonFinale · 12/10/2021 08:23

Sorry everyone knows that FB is weird and random and not everything shows on everyone's feed so it certainly isn't the way tk ensure someone gets told something.

You have been unsympathetic and dismissive about any illness your SIL may or may not have had but expect her to know the ins and outs of your life which you have chosen not to actually share with her. I am afraid it looks like you are the one being unreasonable I'm this situation.

Twillow · 12/10/2021 08:25

Well, obviously you don't like her at all. First, you say she was always complaining about feeling unwell - but then she was diagnosed with a chronic condition. Second, why is this about the SIL when you haven't even spoken to your DB for what, the last 12 months?
Sorry if I sound a bit snarky, having read through the post twice trying to find out where the DIL actually came into any of this...

PrettyVacancy · 12/10/2021 08:26

You seem to want, and feel you deserve, sympathy for ailments/stress/whatever on your side of the family, but she’s just whining 🤷🏻‍♀️ Surely it works both ways and you should quit whining too?

Also, you suggest that she’s been diagnosed with a chronic condition that may now give her something to moan about, but have you not considered that she may have had this condition, or another one, all along? I’ve got Crohn’s disease. You can’t see it. It’s made my life pretty grim. You are judgemental though and would probably consider me fit and well and with no right to say I’m feeling ill 🙁

I’d advise you to live your life, feel happy if you’ve got good health and try being a bit kinder to others if you can find it in your heart.

Ozanj · 12/10/2021 08:30

You are dismissive of your brother’s families problems while over egging your own. It is absolutely your fault for mentioning your dil’s pregnancy. Honestly I think you could do well to be more sympathetic to others. You remind me of my own DB with your competitive moaning.

blissfulllife · 12/10/2021 08:37

I've got a brother who rarely keeps in touch. He's always been quite separate from us siblings. But we all keep him in the loop. A quick 30 second message to say next grandchild is on the way.

Energy4You · 12/10/2021 08:39

I said YANBU but tbh everyone’s communication is crap.

Your db should have told you about his issues. You can’t read minds.
You should have told them about your issues. They can’t read minds either.
Your ds should have told them about the pregnancy/baby. They’ve had 9 months to tell them and even been ill, he should have been able to send a quick text/quick phone call. I’d be annoyed if I hadn’t been told too!

What I am more puzzled about is why she thinks you are responsible for telling her about the baby when ds is an adult…

blissfulllife · 12/10/2021 08:40

Another thing is I probably drove my family mad for years moaning about sickness, dizziness and generally feeling unwell. I know one family member actually has said behind my back that I'm making it up or attention seeking. I was diagnosed with MS this year. Everything then made sense. 7 years to finally find out what's wrong.

Energy4You · 12/10/2021 08:41

Btw, knowing that DB is always a bit in the fringes (and assuming you haven’t fallen out etc…), I would probably make a more of an effort to keep in touch.
I’m wondering how much you have been in touch in the last 18 months that he never hit the opportunity to tell you about his health (and you abiut your own family health issues)

maddy68 · 12/10/2021 08:43

Sounds like everyone is struggling this is 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

Just move on and try to do better at keeping the other informed.

Energy4You · 12/10/2021 08:43

@blissfulllife

Another thing is I probably drove my family mad for years moaning about sickness, dizziness and generally feeling unwell. I know one family member actually has said behind my back that I'm making it up or attention seeking. I was diagnosed with MS this year. Everything then made sense. 7 years to finally find out what's wrong.
Yes I agree with that.

The whole ‘I’m unwell’ that went for so many years was probably the first signs of the illness. Some things can take ages to be diagnosed.

I also noticed that the OP didn’t seem that convinced about the illness itself and still haven’t given any slack to the SIL.
I’m not surprised that the SIL isn’t turning up for family gatherings tbh. She must feel really uneasy if she has to ‘prove’ she is ill all the time.

flippertyop · 12/10/2021 08:44

Pretty unbelievable that you or your son didn't let them know the baby news tbh. Usually prospective GP ring the whole world let alone siblings. I don't blame her for being annoyed tbh

Chicchicchicchiclana · 12/10/2021 08:49

@CinnamonJellyBeans

It sounds like she could have written a similar thread about you.
Nail on head.
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