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UK has gone to shit.

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Ilovegreentomatoes · 09/10/2021 19:58

What is happening to the uk? No food on the shelves, the cost of living has become extortionate coupled with stagnating wages it seems this is a country where unless your in the higher income bracket you really can't afford to live anymore.
Poverty is going to be rife I dread to think the amount of people who will be choosing between food or heating this year.
Aibu to think this country has gone to shit of the likes we have not seen for a long time.
I am lower income and feel like I can't afford to live anymore.

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ProlesOnParole · 09/10/2021 22:40

I thought 'keep calm and carry on' was ditched shortly after it was created and only came into public attention through the nostalgia industry when some enterprising spark thought it nicely summed up the version of public behaviour during the war that we were telling ourselves about in the 1990s?

BunsyGirl · 09/10/2021 22:40

@jgw1 I was talking about holidays outside the U.K. which have apparently gone up significantly since 2019 due to Brexit…except that the real reason they have gone up is Covid…in fact of the three holidays abroad that I had in 2019, it’s the one to Europe that has increased by the smallest amount…

GreenLunchBox · 09/10/2021 22:40

[quote Wazzzzzzzup]Well
www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/10/08/eu-must-ready-send-aid-brexit-britain-says-former-pm-finland/[/quote]
Wow!Shock

Jetstream · 09/10/2021 22:40

Also Nigel Farage’s tweet about Ireland’s CT today. The man is clearly delusional or lying, or probably both. I mean the man was, apparently, a British MEP for years and still doesn’t know how Brussels and Strasburg work. I’m just glad I’m not paying for his pension,.

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 09/10/2021 22:41

@ProlesOnParole

The Tories are bad news for the economy but loads of English vote for them because they're posh. I don't think they even think that they're good politicians. It's more that the English think the natural and correct order of things is to be ruled by posh people they don't particularly like. Similar to why there's still a monarchy and why that monarchy gets away with the stuff it does. Gives everyone something to moan about. Well there's certainly plenty to fucking moan about now.
Spot on.

So many people have a hard on for a plummy accent.

VladmirsPoutine · 09/10/2021 22:41

@ProlesOnParole There's definitely something in that! As I said above - it's a mentality. I remember all the shit Corbyn got for having a house in Islington that looks like a stacked shoebox yet our very own chancellor is an actual billionaire and that's somehow just... normal Confused

wherearemychickens · 09/10/2021 22:42

Sterling is not stronger against the dollar than it was pre-Brexit; it is stronger right now against the dollar than it has been at some points since the Brexit vote.

I think a poster upthread had it right for me - it's clearly not the end of the world - that's what's going on if you live in Lebanon right now - it is, however, the end of the world as we knew it, where you could pretty much rely on a supermarket being fully stocked when you went in. There were gaps on shelves in every single aisle when I went in our local supermarket last weekend. Big gaps too, not just single items out of stock. We've bollocksed up just-in-time, and we haven't even imposed import controls yet.

baroqueandblue · 09/10/2021 22:43

Well there's certainly plenty to fucking moan about now.

And many of those moaning will do so while starving/freezing to death. The irony! And the Tories love it.

Fordian · 09/10/2021 22:43

@Roussette

yes but those that voted Brexit want to now blame covid19 as it deflects from the fucking mess they've voted for

Yes.

So convenient.

But have they actually got the nerve to admit they voted for Brexit?

Very brave.

All those on twitter who slagged me off have disappeared.

Funny that....

All those on MN have pretty much disappeared. Innocently name any who argued heaven and hell, pro-Brexit, on MN, and you'll be deleted.

Chillingly.

jgw1 · 09/10/2021 22:44

[quote VladmirsPoutine]@ProlesOnParole There's definitely something in that! As I said above - it's a mentality. I remember all the shit Corbyn got for having a house in Islington that looks like a stacked shoebox yet our very own chancellor is an actual billionaire and that's somehow just... normal Confused[/quote]
The chancellor being a billionaire surely shows he is good with other peoples money, which is important when being chancellor, and spending it on oneself and ones mates.

FrankButchersDickieBow · 09/10/2021 22:44

[quote Suzi888]@FrankButchersDickieBow I don’t read the daily Mail. I worked in benefits for 12 years before switching to housing. I’m not saying that no one will struggle, but I can assure you most will not.
We deal with credit union reps all the time, you do not often get the full picture I can assure you.[/quote]
How patronising!! I could tell you worked for a housing association or a council 🙄. No clue whatsoever.

Please don't tell me I don't get the full picture.

I currently work for a trade union and many of our members are on the breadline. So please let me 'assure you', you are not getting the full picture.

sjxoxo · 09/10/2021 22:44

@ProlesOnParole

The Tories are bad news for the economy but loads of English vote for them because they're posh. I don't think they even think that they're good politicians. It's more that the English think the natural and correct order of things is to be ruled by posh people they don't particularly like. Similar to why there's still a monarchy and why that monarchy gets away with the stuff it does. Gives everyone something to moan about. Well there's certainly plenty to fucking moan about now.
@ProlesOnParole you are spot on with this.. the UK is one of the only countries to not have had a revolution & I think there’s huge truth in the fact we still have a monarchy supports this idea of voting Tory because of a misplaced belief that ‘posh’ is best. I know lots of people who are directly at a disadvantage under a Tory government but vote Tory anyway as they see it as aspirational in some way. I also think that if people are pitted against each other in a false ‘meritocracy’ they’ve not got the time/knowledge/insight to actually push for any proper changes or defend their rights! xo
Frostine · 09/10/2021 22:44

I have to have fairly regular but routine blood tests. Was due one next Friday. It's cancelled due to lack of glass vials .

HollaHolla · 09/10/2021 22:44

It’s almost if voting Tory was a bad idea?! Imagine.

Fordian · 09/10/2021 22:45

@DnVLittle

Theres too many people on this little island. Government need to look after the British people b4 trying to help the world. I'm second generation born Indian/british so I'm not racist b4 anyone starts. 😂 Realistically speaking, too many people and stretched resources, and not forgetting greedy companies/businesses.

To be fair, it's pretty much understood that many Indian British voted Leave in the (not incorrect) belief that an exodus of EU workers would leave vacancies for Commonwealth workers.

jgw1 · 09/10/2021 22:45

@HollaHolla

It’s almost if voting Tory was a bad idea?! Imagine.
Nonsense, we wouldn't have nearly as much fun and to moan about if we had a competent compassionate government.
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Ilovegreentomatoes · 09/10/2021 22:46

Main message here....If you want any hope for the future get boris and his stuck up out of touch tory cronies out.

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BunsyGirl · 09/10/2021 22:47

@wherearemychickens Did I actually say that it was stronger than pre Brexit…I was talking about 2019…holiday prices have gone up significantly since 2019…I wonder why! Apparently it’s because the exchange rate is worse now…lost of people on this thread trying to manipulate my words…I wonder why…

jgw1 · 09/10/2021 22:48

[quote BunsyGirl]@wherearemychickens Did I actually say that it was stronger than pre Brexit…I was talking about 2019…holiday prices have gone up significantly since 2019…I wonder why! Apparently it’s because the exchange rate is worse now…lost of people on this thread trying to manipulate my words…I wonder why…[/quote]
The cost of my holiday this year hadn't gone up significantly on the cost in 2019.

chugga · 09/10/2021 22:48

Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon about panic buying. Why don't people just STOP doing that? If people stopped reading the papers then they wouldn't be panic buying because the papers just say anything to get people wound up. We saw the fuel shortages that were apparently a thing, they weren't but as soon as it was in the paper and everyone and their nan had to go out and get fuel then there was a problem. Do you think that if that wasn't in the papers then that amount of people would be out buying fuel those days and queuing for hours? No, they wouldn't, we'd all be getting on with our normal lives and fueling up when we needed too. As soon as the papers mention anything about shortages then everyone is out stocking up on things, if we just bought how we normally did then this wouldn't be a problem and if you are worried about it for any reason then pick up 1 or 2 things extra a week, don't go out and buy 20 things that you don't need at that moment just because the paper has put that fear in you.

lollipoprainbow · 09/10/2021 22:48

Agreed, just worked out that with the energy, tax, ni and food increases my salary will basically cover rent and living costs with fuck all left for treats , it's shit.

DogsandCatsB4u · 09/10/2021 22:48

I wanted to go live in Ibiza

Hulkynothunky · 09/10/2021 22:48

@BoredZelda

Also, a lot of what we buy isn't essential. If the price is too high, people will cut back. For many business it's not a simple as raising prices, they will have to take the cut in profit - and many (I'm not saying all), can afford to.

Nope. Prices rise, but wages also rise.

You still haven't answered my question/given the links on public sector pay which you say isn't a problem..

If only private sector wages rise then how do these workers deal with price hikes? Not everyone in the public sector is a high wage earner. Like I said before this 'high wage economy' stuff is a soundbite - if Boris genuinely believed it in he would have to increase public sector pay. But in most cases he's giving the public sector a pay freeze

antoniawhite · 09/10/2021 22:49

@MarleneDietrichsSmile

I think the media, and some posters here, just love whipping eachother up in a frenzy of despair

Seem to even enjoy it

Makes no sense to me. No iceberg lettuce? I mean is that really IT when people say there is “no food on the shelves” ?

All I see is people whipping themselves up into a frenzy.

Keep calm and carry on, remember that? People are totally going for the opposite. And it does not help

No, that isn’t really it, when people are complaining about no food on the shelves.

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone express alarm that they couldn’t get a lettuce.

Fordian · 09/10/2021 22:49

@Samedaysameshit

I think the sudden realisation that people who actually make this country function deserve a proper wage and big business can’t just get desperate poor people for abroad to keep millions of people on artificially low wages is a good thing.

I agree. But start paying a decent, living wage, and that cost will be passed on. To people who can no longer afford the product. Thus won't buy it. Because their own wage needs subsidising by the tax payer to make ends meet.

What a car crash.