UK has gone to shit.

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What is happening to the uk? No food on the shelves, the cost of living has become extortionate coupled with stagnating wages it seems this is a country where unless your in the higher income bracket you really can't afford to live anymore.
Poverty is going to be rife I dread to think the amount of people who will be choosing between food or heating this year.
Aibu to think this country has gone to shit of the likes we have not seen for a long time.
I am lower income and feel like I can't afford to live anymore.

Blaming things on Brexit is often just not true, like the pp above whose Dh lost 100 lorry drivers.

Nor is blaming everything on Covid, but that has been the Government's stock excuse. Now it's supposedly easing off it's - the public's fault, businesses fault, Uncle Tom Cobbley an' all's fault, but no not the Government's fault.

And since about 2010 we have gone all out to reduce the figure. It was a large factor in leaving the EU in 2016 but still there are 260,000 in 2020. Just astounding imv

The only thing the politicians had to do was to show uk in real light and the numbers would drop. The mood on immigrant forums from my community is completely different now and people openly tell people who consider immigrating here, to reconsider. It's not worth it anymore, it wasn't for a while and I am not talking just money wise. The quality of life is dropping or at least it feels like, children poverty is worse than in majority of EU (it's around double to my native country from V4), healthcare is basically dying and so on...

The numbers will keep dropping. Many will be happy I guess.
But it's actually nothing to celebrate because it means that UK is then internationally known as.. well shithole..

The numbers will keep dropping. Many will be happy I guess
If 260,000 is the number when the numbers are dropping and we are in dire straits God help us if things pick up again.

@Peregrina

Blaming things on Brexit is often just not true, like the pp above whose Dh lost 100 lorry drivers.

Nor is blaming everything on Covid, but that has been the Government's stock excuse. Now it's supposedly easing off it's - the public's fault, businesses fault, Uncle Tom Cobbley an' all's fault, but no not the Government's fault.

It is clearly not the government's fault. They are being very successful. They are in power, enriching themselves and their mates. It can hardly be there fault that others are not as talented as them and so not in government.

@PattiPritell

The numbers will keep dropping. Many will be happy I guess If 260,000 is the number when the numbers are dropping and we are in dire straits God help us if things pick up again.

Don't worry Boris is straining every sinew to ensure that things do not pick up.

He certainly is!!

Boris, strain a sinew? Boris doesn't strain anything, except perhaps his bank balance and then finds a Tory mate to give him a sub.

@Peregrina

Boris, strain a sinew? Boris doesn't strain anything, except perhaps his bank balance and then finds a Tory mate to give him a sub.

Not to mention an alibi...

I am really anxious about the latest fighting over the NI protocol. They really want to make the EU tear up the deal, don’t they?

Damning report into covid failings.

Who will Johnson try to pass the blame to?

Johnson missed all those cobra meetings in Feb 2020. Dithered about lockdown in March 2020. Highest death toll in Europe.

A tragic failure by the government.

Analysis from Citi estimated the UK economy would be between 2% and 3% smaller in 2024-25 than before the pandemic, with Brexit causing a deeper scarring effect than Covid.

“The scarring just because of the pandemic may not be as large as we thought last year. The scarring due to Brexit may actually be larger,” said Christian Schulz, the bank’s director of European economics. “Brexit is casting a long shadow over the economy.”

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/12/sunak-planning-2bn-in-cuts-and-the-uks-highest-peacetime-tax-rate

@Peregrina

Damning report into covid failings.

Who will Johnson try to pass the blame to?

Its all Hancock's fault, and that nasty Cummings, if only they were fine upstanding gentleman like Boris then none of this would have happened.

Look Keir Starmer took the knee.

@Cazzovuoi

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Never has the impact of Brexit been so succinctly put! Absolutely agree. Very hard not to be angry and bitter as a remainer

What really makes me angry is the fact that people are really swallowing that "higher wages, higher standards" crap.
Higher wages = higher prices. It's a snowball - or a shitball in this case. If you increase the wages of HGV drives, this translates to higher prices of deliveries, higher prices of goods, + you want to increase the wages of farmers or workers on farms and in slaughterhouses = add that to the price of the veggies, meat, fruit etc. in the supermarkets.
Of course, as a proud Brexiter, you could only buy local goods, that means if the supermarket decides to import cheaper veggies and fruit from abroad, you don't buy it because it's not what you voted for. That means, the double whammy from above for you. Or the supermarket may decide that it's too cumbersome to talk to local farmers because they got so expensive all of a sudden and start looking for cheaper goods from abroad, thus tanking the local agriculture.
The plumber, hairdresser etc. also want to be paid more, for the same job they did before. So does the carer who comes to take care of your Grannie. Or you can take care of her yourself, to save money, all you have to do is to quit your job and rely on the generous allowance from the state.
The public NHS is slowly crumbling under the attack of the Tories who see their wet dream - different standards of care for people who can afford it and those who can't.
There's already people who say that there are too many university students and not enough manual workers. To me, that means that they are preparing to make college and university only affordable to few selected (and rich enough to pay for it) to encourage young people from working class to stay put where they "belong".
Tories have worked for a long time to once again create the ideal society, where everybody is in their own class, doesn't rise, the benefits only go to those they deem worthy and the old boys from the traditional families rule.
What's missing at the moment is the traditional influx of the cheap labour that has supported the UK's economy for over hundred years, going back to the colonial times so, of course, they need to create one from their own. There will be no higher wages for lower prices in the UK soon, the way I see it is, that there will be higher wages for higher prices and the people on benefits will be forced to accept whatever work possible to keep on being benefits while the low income families will have to work more and their children to enter the job market earlier as the higher education will become unaffordable.

All sounding scarily credible Eeriesilence.

I've just seen a meme which rang true.

'The road to Fascism is paved with people telling you off for over-reacting.'

Quite a lot of those people appear to be on Mumsnet.

@EerieSilence sounds completely correct. The only thing you missed was getting prisoners to work. I listened to something the other day where they were talking about it. I don’t know if we ever had chain gangs in this country but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the prisoners started picking the fruit and veg.

@antoniawhite

I've just seen a meme which rang true.

'The road to Fascism is paved with people telling you off for over-reacting.'

Quite a lot of those people appear to be on Mumsnet.

I really don't think that saying "you are overreacting about whole chiken, because you can atill buy other chicken and parts of it" will lead us to genocide and similar....

wazzzzzzzup Normalising shocking failing in governance softens the population up for whatever may come next.

Anyone wth an understanding of history should know that we are on a very dangerous path. We have an elected government with no moral code and which is apparently accountable to no one. That is how democracy dies.

wazzzzzup - no, nor do I. Thank God I didn't even come close to saying anything of the sort.

@wewereliars

wazzzzzzzup Normalising shocking failing in governance softens the population up for whatever may come next.

Anyone wth an understanding of history should know that we are on a very dangerous path. We have an elected government with no moral code and which is apparently accountable to no one. That is how democracy dies.

Thank you for a sensible response.

Also worth noting that the government is doing its best to undo accountability to those bodies that were able to hold it to account. Johnson tried to prorogue Parliament. They are doing their best to weaken the power of the lawcourts. They have hobbled the BBC. They want to pass a bill where they can decide if a protest is lawful depending upon whether they find it 'annoying'. Little by little they are chipping away. If they did it all at once, people would notice.

Little by little they are chipping away. If they did it all at once, people would notice.

Boiling Frog Syndrome

The boiling frog is a fable describing a frog being slowly boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is put suddenly into boiling water, it will jump out, but if the frog is put in tepid water which is then brought to a boil slowly, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability or unwillingness of people to react to or be aware of sinister threats that arise gradually rather than suddenly.

Who will Johnson try to pass the blame to?

Doesn't matter. Nobody who voted for him will care, they will still support him. I remember the 2019 election the news interviewed people in a food bank because after nine years of Tory government they couldn't afford to feed their children. They all cheerily said they'd be voting Tory for Boris. I was open mouthed. They've put you in a fucking food bank and your voting for more of the same. Then along came covid, people were quite literally burying their relatives while saying what a good job Johnson was doing.
Brexit is a cult, Johnson is cult leader, cult leader can do no wrong. The covid report will make zero difference to his popularity.

@Kendodd - Brexit is a cult which both, Tories and Labour were members of.
Corbyn's deluded dream was, that the Tories will make a shitshow out of Brexit and lose in the elections so he can come and make Britain a socialist country. In his convoluted mind of a man completely separated from reality he truly believed this is what will happen and that the people screaming his name at demonstrations were a true majority.
Tories are becoming less bourgeoisie and more the aristocratic and semi-aristocratic gathering of posh boys, creating their policies in gentlemen's clubs while looking for the best way of investing their money so it's hidden from the tax man. They created the smoke-screen of the sycophantic admiration of monarchy as a way to redirect public's interest while they're systematically stripping the welfare state of the much needed funds and the collapse of Labour under its own inability to modernise while still sticking to the social democratic principles. The Liberal Democrats paid for associating themselves with the Tories.
A proper shitshow.