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UK has gone to shit.

527 replies

Ilovegreentomatoes · 09/10/2021 19:58

What is happening to the uk? No food on the shelves, the cost of living has become extortionate coupled with stagnating wages it seems this is a country where unless your in the higher income bracket you really can't afford to live anymore.
Poverty is going to be rife I dread to think the amount of people who will be choosing between food or heating this year.
Aibu to think this country has gone to shit of the likes we have not seen for a long time.
I am lower income and feel like I can't afford to live anymore.

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jgw1 · 09/10/2021 22:19

@User135644

Yes, I had noticed a growing number of but Keir posts appearing

It's always the same old. They never have a good word to say about the Tories but they simply had to vote Boris as Corbyn would have been so much worse. And they will have to vote Boris again because Keir Starmer will eat my kids.

Ah, he will eat children. Also he bent down on one knee, don't forget that.
EvenRosesHaveThorns · 09/10/2021 22:20

There is food on the shelves, the daily fail is trying to create the news and start panic buying again, just ignore it!!!!

chugga · 09/10/2021 22:20

@User135644

Yes, I had noticed a growing number of but Keir posts appearing

It's always the same old. They never have a good word to say about the Tories but they simply had to vote Boris as Corbyn would have been so much worse. And they will have to vote Boris again because Keir Starmer will eat my kids.

Neither of them sound appealing to me between Boris and Keir so if we were to have a vote right now I'd be voting for Ed Davey. I don't think it matters what party you get in really though, they're all full of shit.
DroopyClematis · 09/10/2021 22:20

@BunsyGirl
Your post that I was referring to was quite clear in that you said that there was plenty of food available. It isn't , in various pockets of the UK.

Roussette · 09/10/2021 22:21

Oh yes, the throwback to 1850 JR-M, don't you just love him.

NE Somerset, get a bloody grip and vote him out!

This is worth seeing... brave man

www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/cheshire-man-cerebral-palsy-tells-21764568

PurpleFlower1983 · 09/10/2021 22:22

Blame 52% of the voting population.

Vampsticks · 09/10/2021 22:22

I don't see how Labour would do anything different aside from pile on a lot more debt for future generations to pay and squeeze the middle taxpayers even more.

Roussette · 09/10/2021 22:23

There is food on the shelves, the daily fail is trying to create the news and start panic buying again, just ignore it!!!!

Really?

Tell me why then, when I went to Waitrose (bear in mind, I rarely go there, I am Testo/Morrisons, but needed something quickly and I live the middle of nowhere and it is closest to me)
And they had ONE lonely iceberg lettuce. No other lettuce. Big sign up saying supply problems.

jgw1 · 09/10/2021 22:23

@Vampsticks

I don't see how Labour would do anything different aside from pile on a lot more debt for future generations to pay and squeeze the middle taxpayers even more.
They'd raise taxes as well, whereas Boris won't because he promised not to in his manifesto. Also Boris will get Brexit done.
VladmirsPoutine · 09/10/2021 22:23

Corbyn wanted free broadband for all - as I recall even the BBC branded it 'broadband communism'. He truly believes in equity and equality which is why he riles so many people. A lot of people would rather be miserable and struggle themselves than see anyone else get a so-called 'hand out' or 'leg up'. You only have to see the discourse about the £20 uplift being removed; many have recommended that those who were reliant on it to 'get a better job'. Indeed even look at the flack Marcus Rashford gets just because he doesn't think school kids should starve. It's something about the mentality of the country which is why things won't change and the tories remain polling relatively highly despite the fact we're in utter chaos.

BunsyGirl · 09/10/2021 22:24

@jgw1 No, it’s fucking Covid’s fault! Has had a catastrophic effect on the travel and tourism industry which has lead to massive price increases….but there are people on here blaming exchange rates due to Brexit…

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Ilovegreentomatoes · 09/10/2021 22:24

@WorraLiberty if saying what I see is scaremongering then so be it. Had to go round 3 shops to find milk so it does feel like shelves are empty although I appreciate every region is different and some don't seem to have the same problems.

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BoredZelda · 09/10/2021 22:24

Also, a lot of what we buy isn't essential. If the price is too high, people will cut back. For many business it's not a simple as raising prices, they will have to take the cut in profit - and many (I'm not saying all), can afford to.

Nope. Prices rise, but wages also rise.

ivykaty44 · 09/10/2021 22:25

its what the country voted for, 3x they have made it into number 10 so its not as if its a fluke. I can't understand why those that are poor vote for them in the north, its beyond ridiculous

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 09/10/2021 22:25

There may be enough petrol, there may be enough food, but the point is that problems starts when distribution channels start to break down. So who cares if there's theoretically enough petrol in the country if the petrol pump you're standing in front of says it's empty.

jgw1 · 09/10/2021 22:25

[quote BunsyGirl]@jgw1 No, it’s fucking Covid’s fault! Has had a catastrophic effect on the travel and tourism industry which has lead to massive price increases….but there are people on here blaming exchange rates due to Brexit…[/quote]
The lack of tourism has led to an increase in the price of gas?

Well I never.

BunsyGirl · 09/10/2021 22:27

@DroopyClematis So it all comes down poverty…because if you have the means you drive to another store…a food shortage means that there is not enough to go around…there is…no need for anyone in this country to be starving…

Cazzovuoi · 09/10/2021 22:27

No, it’s fucking Covid’s fault! Has had a catastrophic effect on the travel and tourism industry which has lead to massive price increases….but there are people on here blaming exchange rates due to Brexit…

France, Portugal, Spain and Italy all have massive tourism industries that have been hard hit by covid. They don’t have the problems that UK is having. It’s fucking BREXIT!

Fordian · 09/10/2021 22:27

@wannabebetter

"What will make the difference going forward is if we actually force businesses to pay people a fair wage with decent working condition"

As Boris bleated about this week... but, where is that money supposed to come from? HR in manufacturing here - the projected rise in min wage equates around 6% rise plus our costs are escalating massively - gas 300% electricity 200%, supply issues with electrical components, steel & packaging, logistics costs massively increased... it's a perfect storm which will ultimately lead to the collapse of U.K. manufacturing where businesses will have no choice but to look at relocating to cheaper locations....

Yep, show me the apprenticeships. This (Tory) government has had 11 years to sort this, but- how many graphic design degree apprenticeships were on offer when my DS had to go to uni to get GD degree?

None. Zero.

Plenty of 'barista' and 'child care' ones, however. Let's pay apprenticeship wages to people who would erstwhile have been on minimum wage, eh?

jgw1 · 09/10/2021 22:27

@StrychnineInTheSandwiches

There may be enough petrol, there may be enough food, but the point is that problems starts when distribution channels start to break down. So who cares if there's theoretically enough petrol in the country if the petrol pump you're standing in front of says it's empty.
No its, like Matt Handcock's daily test numbers. As long as the test theoretically exist somewhere then it is fine to count them.
ivykaty44 · 09/10/2021 22:27

whereas Boris won't because he promised not to in his manifesto

did you miss the tax rise? or are you being sarcastic?

BunsyGirl · 09/10/2021 22:29

@jgw1 Stop trying to make me look like an idiot. You can clearly see from the thread that I was talking about certain price increases that have nothing to do with Brexit…I never mentioned gas prices…

Roussette · 09/10/2021 22:29

France, Portugal, Spain and Italy all have massive tourism industries that have been hard hit by covid. They don’t have the problems that UK is having. It’s fucking BREXIT!

Thank you!

Big connections to Spain here and there is NO PROBLEM with anything.

Fordian · 09/10/2021 22:29

[quote BunsyGirl]@wherearemychickens Yes, I know that it fell in 2016. I am talking about price differences from holidays in 2019, pre Covid. Just priced up the exact same holiday that we had in Turkey in October 2019. Was £3.5k. £5.5k for October 2022. This is not about me denying that Brexit has caused problems. It has and I certainly didn’t vote for it. But we have to stop blaming it for all our problems.[/quote]

Oh, Bunny, we've not even begun to recognise what lies ahead, post Brexit.

We've barely dipped our toe into the muddied, boiling waters that lie ahead.

We've seen nothing yet.

baroqueandblue · 09/10/2021 22:29

I know exactly what you mean about the something you can't put your finger on

It's something about the mentality of the country which is why things won't change and the tories remain polling relatively highly despite the fact we're in utter chaos.

What I would call a kind of subtle social psychosis. No accident that both media and government rely on psychological manipulation to sell papers/get elected.