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Carers and vunerable patients

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Bettyboopawoop · 09/10/2021 16:41

I know a few home carers that live across the road, they are doing home visits too vunerable patients, patients that are at huge risk if they contract covid. The carers don't seem to give s shit about their clients they have lots of people coming in an out their house, people staying over all the time, going out to pubs clubs ect.

I know everyone can't put their life on hold because of covid but the other day one of their patients was taken away in an ambulance and it got me thinking about covid and how these carers are putting their patients at risk.

I am not planning on doing anything or saying anything but it just made me wonder if I am being very unking to think they are major twats for putting those people at risk?

OP posts:
Livvielo · 09/10/2021 16:45

I’m a home carer. Do you think I should not have a life outside of work?! What about doctors and nurses… should they also not go out? Funnily enough, I have friends, a family and a social life that goes on outside of my minimum wage and extremely stressful job as a home carer. I’m vulnerable myself and follow guidelines, good hygiene and wear PPE on my house calls. What more would you like me to do?

Livvielo · 09/10/2021 16:46

Do you mean they are live in carers??

vivainsomnia · 09/10/2021 16:49

Carers are paid horribly. Yet they should put their personal life in hold for their job.

It's not a realistic expectation.

LikeACatInTheDark · 09/10/2021 16:51

YABVU, for all the reasons above.

WorraLiberty · 09/10/2021 16:53

What are they supposed to do? Live in a small bubble and have no contact with anyone except those they care for? Confused

I take it you're about to become a carer yourself, so you can show them how it's done?

XenoBitch · 09/10/2021 16:54

YABU and mind your own business. They are not doing anything wrong.

Livvielo · 09/10/2021 16:54

@vivainsomnia

Carers are paid horribly. Yet they should put their personal life in hold for their job.

It's not a realistic expectation.

Exactly this. I’m quite new to the job. I get paid £8.90 per hour, I don’t get petrol money and I work 9 hour shifts with no break. 50% of home carers quit within the first year. Imagine telling them they have to give up their social life too… I wouldn’t! I would ask the OP to work as a carer and see if she’s still singing from the same hymn sheet then!
Hobnobsandbroomstick · 09/10/2021 16:55

Meh. They've probably had their vaccine, wear PPE, and do regular lateral flow tests. Life has to go on now.

blissfulllife · 09/10/2021 16:57

My daughter is a carer. Do you want her to not have a life at all. She's currently out having a meal with her friends. After a ten day stint working her arse off for peanuts. She's also studying. Goes to visit family, has family and friends stay over, babysits, shopping etc. She's going to be gutted when I tell her she's being irresponsible for having a life lol

Dobbyafreeelf · 09/10/2021 16:58

@Bettyboopawoop

I know a few home carers that live across the road, they are doing home visits too vunerable patients, patients that are at huge risk if they contract covid. The carers don't seem to give s shit about their clients they have lots of people coming in an out their house, people staying over all the time, going out to pubs clubs ect.

I know everyone can't put their life on hold because of covid but the other day one of their patients was taken away in an ambulance and it got me thinking about covid and how these carers are putting their patients at risk.

I am not planning on doing anything or saying anything but it just made me wonder if I am being very unking to think they are major twats for putting those people at risk?

Yes you are being incredibly unkind, judgmental and unreasonable to think those things!!! How bloody dare you!!! Care workers (like myself) have had two years of hell. Lives put on hold to protect clients. Shit pay and conditions. Abuse from clients, their relatives and the public. We are humans. We are allowed a personal life. We are all fully vaccinated because we have been FORCED to be - unlike NHS staff who are not.

How do you know their clients would be any more vulnerable? How do you know that their client going to hospital had anything to do with covid? How do you know their clients are not putting the carers at risk by their own behaviour?

You have no idea what you are taking about frankly and comments like you have made make my blood boil! Next time before you judge try doing their job for a bit!

Overthebow · 09/10/2021 17:01

Yabvu. It’s a job, work should not rule your life. Of course they should be free to do whatever they want in their own time. If someone wants a carer to shield too then they are free to pay for 100% of someone’s time if they can find a willing carer.

AdditionalCharacter · 09/10/2021 17:06

I work with vulnerable adults. We have to do LFT twice a week and a PCR test once a week. Also have to have PPE on at all times and as of 11 November, all those working within health and social care have to have had both jabs or lose their job.

The majority of us working in health/social care are doing all we can to avoid getting covid and keeping outhouse we care for safe. Shall we just give up on having a life as well?

You're being ridiculous and overly nosey.

AdditionalCharacter · 09/10/2021 17:07

Outhouse = those

VladmirsPoutine · 09/10/2021 17:26

The only problem the carers across the road have is apparently a curtain twitching neighbour.

Reduceddutiesboredom · 09/10/2021 17:27

Of course everyone who works in care should stop seeing friends and family, so should everyone who works in hospitals/ doctor’s surgeries, probably shop workers too as they’ll serve vulnerable people too.

Why not expect teachers & school staff to stop having a life as well.

OP - your neighbour will be wearing all appropriate PPE while on shift, the service users will (if they wish) have been vaccinated and therefore have a higher level of protected, most of the adult population is vaccinated in fact.

Mind your own business, maybe start reading or find a tv show to watch instead?

MichelleScarn · 09/10/2021 17:31

Oh yay. This reminds me of early on in this shit when people like the OP were advocating those of us who worked in hospitals etc should just leave home and live at work for the duration of this, or be SELFISH GRANNY KILLERS WHO ARE ONLY THINKING OF THEMSELVES!! And it was usually always in capitals! Confused

LegoSteppingStones · 09/10/2021 17:35

@Bettyboopawoop

I know a few home carers that live across the road, they are doing home visits too vunerable patients, patients that are at huge risk if they contract covid. The carers don't seem to give s shit about their clients they have lots of people coming in an out their house, people staying over all the time, going out to pubs clubs ect.

I know everyone can't put their life on hold because of covid but the other day one of their patients was taken away in an ambulance and it got me thinking about covid and how these carers are putting their patients at risk.

I am not planning on doing anything or saying anything but it just made me wonder if I am being very unking to think they are major twats for putting those people at risk?

You are the "major twat" op
WorraLiberty · 09/10/2021 17:36

Any thoughts on the replies so far OP?

If you can step away from the curtains for a minute

multiplemum3 · 09/10/2021 17:38

Hahaha! You expect people to not live their lives for minimum wage? Find something else to do.

shouldistop · 09/10/2021 17:44

Ha ha ha ha ha

You're joking I presume?

Bestkindaparty · 09/10/2021 17:46

This post has got to be a wind up to get peoples backs up. How sad

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Bettyboopawoop · 09/10/2021 17:48

Actually I do not believe that carers should have been forced to have the vaccine, and 2 I wondered how I would feel if it were one of my relatives that were at high risk of dying if they got covid. That is all. Sorry if some of you find that offensive.

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Iliketeaagain · 09/10/2021 17:50

Bloody hell OP - you are being exactly what you think the carers are.

Those carers, while the majority stayed at home because of the risk of covid, risked their own health to keep vulnerable people at home and make sure they received the care they needed. Now everyone else is meant to go back to some level of normal, they're not supposed to, meant to continue to isolate themselves, except for working at likely minimum wage. Nice.

Do you also want others who are at risk of increasing the spread to not have a life either - supermarket staff, teachers, patient facing nhs staff? Or is it just those carers you are looking down on?

If you think you'd do better, by all means go ahead - you can give up your social and family life to work as a carer, there's already a shortage, long shifts for minimum wage - see how it feels after a week or 2.

Planningspringflowers · 09/10/2021 17:50

It’s the job title that’s the problem - ‘carer.’

Cue lots of humphy comments about ‘well you can’t care if

It’s a job title, not a verb.

vivainsomnia · 09/10/2021 17:52

*I wondered how I would feel if it were one of my relatives that were at high risk of dying if they got covid
Does this mean you'd stop having any firm of social life so that you can visit them regularly for years?