Page 2 | Carers and vunerable patients

Bettyboopawoop · 2021-10-09T15:41:28+00:00

I know a few home carers that live across the road, they are doing home visits too vunerable patients, patients that are at huge risk if they contract covid. The carers don't seem to give s shit about their clients they have lots of people coming in an out their house, people staying over all the time, going out to pubs clubs ect. I know everyone can't put their life on hold because of covid but the other day one of their patients was taken away in an ambulance and it got me thinking about covid and how these carers are putting their patients at risk. I am not planning on doing anything or saying anything but it just made me wonder if I am being very unking to think they are major twats for putting those people at risk?

Reduceddutiesboredom · 09/10/2021 17:57

@Bettyboopawoop

Actually I do not believe that carers should have been forced to have the vaccine, and 2 I wondered how I would feel if it were one of my relatives that were at high risk of dying if they got covid. That is all. Sorry if some of you find that offensive.

I agree, anyone being forced to have the vaccine is ridiculous.

But, people have always been at risk, the flu puts over 80s at risk every year, do you also expect all care & nhs staff to avoid social contact during flu season?

beentoldcomputersaysno · 09/10/2021 18:10

I get that the higher the contact, the higher the risk. It's government policy to let things run rife in uk and only rely on vaccines. It puts everyone at more risk, which is obviously more worrying for those already at higher risk. However, I don't think carers can be expected to put lives on hold whilst everyone else carries on. Hopefully the boosters will be rolled out properly soon to help those more vulnerable.

Namechanger0800 · 09/10/2021 18:17

@Bettyboopawoop

Actually I do not believe that carers should have been forced to have the vaccine, and 2 I wondered how I would feel if it were one of my relatives that were at high risk of dying if they got covid. That is all. Sorry if some of you find that offensive.

Theres government guidance that should be followed for care workers including being part of a testing programme, PPE, social distancing and hygiene etc - this will minimise risks of followed carefully. You really can't expect care workers to self isolate for their role - out of work they follow same guidance as rest of the population.

generalh · 09/10/2021 18:23

What is your job OP? Can we discuss what risks you bring to it?

Vallmo47 · 09/10/2021 18:28

I have vulnerable to covid, am currently covid positive, had to go to hospital yesterday for covid complications and I still think you are 100% unreasonable.

Iliketeaagain · 09/10/2021 18:46

@Bettyboopawoop

Actually I do not believe that carers should have been forced to have the vaccine, and 2 I wondered how I would feel if it were one of my relatives that were at high risk of dying if they got covid. That is all. Sorry if some of you find that offensive.

I assume that means that you have completely curtailed your social life, online shopping only, no pubs, no dinners out, no visitors in your home in order that none of any vulnerable relatives or friends you see will have any risk of catching covid from you? Or are you holding carers to a different standard to yourself.

GrettaGreen · 09/10/2021 18:52

@Bettyboopawoop

Actually I do not believe that carers should have been forced to have the vaccine, and 2 I wondered how I would feel if it were one of my relatives that were at high risk of dying if they got covid. That is all. Sorry if some of you find that offensive.

Well then, if any of your relatives get sick and need washed, dressed, fed, toileted and maybe hoisted as well as everything else carers do, you go and do it yourself.

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Bettyboopawoop · 09/10/2021 19:12

ILiketeaagain, I have my shopping delivered, I do not have anyone in my home apart from the nurse, I do not go out to the shops, pubs clubs ect.

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generalh · 09/10/2021 19:16

@Bettyboopawoop

ILiketeaagain, I have my shopping delivered, I do not have anyone in my home apart from the nurse, I do not go out to the shops, pubs clubs ect.

So do you question the nurse who enters your home what she has been up to and refuse her entry if she hasn't lived up to your standards?

XenoBitch · 09/10/2021 19:26

@Bettyboopawoop

ILiketeaagain, I have my shopping delivered, I do not have anyone in my home apart from the nurse, I do not go out to the shops, pubs clubs ect.

You seem far too invested in what your neighbours are doing. How do you know they are going to pubs etc when you don't go anywhere yourself? I really do think you need a new hobby.

TheWatersofMarch · 09/10/2021 20:38

OP Carers have to regular tests and wear PPE to reduce risk to their clients, we cannot demand any more, they are entitled to have a life, this group of social care staff are the Cinderella's of the care system, many work in the minimum wage, they usually work alone, they have massive responsibility and little power, they work for private companies who have a keen eye on the bottom line, they are pressured to take on more calls than they can realistically manage, service users and family often have sky high expectations of what they can do in 30 mins. Are you in a position to need care yourself or does someone close to you - I wonder if there is fear underlying your comments.

Flossieskeeper · 09/10/2021 20:47

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Simonjt · 09/10/2021 20:53

@Bettyboopawoop

Actually I do not believe that carers should have been forced to have the vaccine, and 2 I wondered how I would feel if it were one of my relatives that were at high risk of dying if they got covid. That is all. Sorry if some of you find that offensive.

Well if you were concerned surely you would isolate on a permanent basis so you could be their sole carer.

bigbluebus · 09/10/2021 20:55

I feel sure that some of these carers will also have school age children. The case numbers are extremely high in the 11 - 19 age group. I saw figures for this age group the other day for the area in which my DH works - it was around 2300 per 100,000. The rate for the adult population in the same area was around 300/100,000. So are you suggesting that carers don't mix with their own children - which is likely the greatest risk of infection?

SpringRainbow · 09/10/2021 20:55

@Bettyboopawoop

ILiketeaagain, I have my shopping delivered, I do not have anyone in my home apart from the nurse, I do not go out to the shops, pubs clubs ect.

So, have you seen anyone outside your household or left your house at all since the pandemic has begun? Or are you effectively still shielding?

Most people are passed all that and are just trying to make the most of the current situation. You cannot blame people for making the most of their ‘freedom’.

CosmicComfort · 09/10/2021 20:56

I’m a nurse, I do everything I can within reason to protect my patients: PPE, covid vaccines (just had booster), regular LFT’s. What I won’t do though is restrict my personal life any longer.

I did nothing through all the lockdowns apart from work, adhered to social distancing when most didn’t bother, avoided shops. Not any more. I have a life to live! I’ve been on holiday and met up with family this year, it’s been great.

YABVU. Please leave people to live their lives and trust they are following the regulations of their employer.

seb342 · 09/10/2021 20:57

And this is why there's a shortage of workers in the care sector. They are expected to sacrifice everything for minimum wage. I'd hate to be your neighbour OP, you need to find a hobby and stop curtain twitching.

Whatelsecouldibecalled · 09/10/2021 20:59

It’s funny @Bettyboopawoop I was thinking exactly the same thing about the people in my work place….
Face to face with over 30 of them in a room. With little ventilation. The buggers don’t even wear ppe and barely sanitise their hands! They go out mingling with loads of other people, usually street corners but they even go into each other’s houses! 600 of them I see. Every week! AND THEY’RE NOT EVEN VACCINATED!!! Can you believe it!!!

Hope from others replied you’ve realised how ridiculous you are being. People are entitled to a life. Especially after the shit some have been through over the past two years

Klac30 · 09/10/2021 21:00

I get your concern but we can't really expect anyone to not have a social life and stay in at all times - you could catch it in the supermarket. Vaccinations are helping plus Carers are regularly tested. YABU.

Belledan1 · 09/10/2021 21:06

Family member is a community care worker. Worked all through at least 1o to 15 calls a day. Obviously wears protection at each call but each call had at least one family member visit them ie bubble. Obv there is risk there of them passing from one to another and to themselves. So do they not do calls then either as you are saying they shld not mix. Think you are being very selfish

gogohm · 09/10/2021 21:07

Yabu. I work with older people, I have a life outside of work. I wear the correct ppe as per government guidelines and am double jabbed. I caught covid off one of my clients!

TrainspottingWelsh · 09/10/2021 21:10

Yanbu, it's almost as though these twats think they are human and entitled to the same rights as the rest of us.
These selfish bastards are being paid the generous nmw for a piss easy relaxing job, and in many cases are lucky enough to benefit from zero hour contracts, antisocial hours and last minute shifts and rotas. The least they could do in return for such enviable conditions is to sacrifice their personal lives entirely.
Look on the bright side op, with so many people desperate to become carers and vacancies in the industry being so rare, these people will soon be given the boot.

Maverickess · 09/10/2021 21:13

The biggest risk now is the fact that you can go to work when you've got a case at home until you test positive yourself, and you have to go to work in those circumstances unless you want to a) earn nothing and b) face disciplinary action because you're not required to isolate and you're not sick and possibly lose your job.

They're vaccinated, use PPE and test X3 a week.

Carers are not skivvies who exist purely to care for other people.

I wondered how I would feel if it were one of my relatives that were at high risk of dying if they got covid

Do you also wonder how the carers feel being at increased risk of bringing it home to their families? Because when there's a positive case within their clients, in they go anyway. Or is that just part of the minimum wage job and ok to dismiss?!

Mymapuddlington · 09/10/2021 21:16

If you want to live in a bubble that’s up to you. However most people are now trying to get some semblance of normality back.
Just like people don’t self isolate because of flu/cold/vomiting bugs.
I actually feel really sorry for you thinking you can’t have people in your home and can’t go anywhere. It’s been 2 years, there’s not a magic fix.