If care workers get fired for being unvaccinated…

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Why not professional footballers? I’m struggling to be sympathetic with these spoilt men who want to keep getting massive salaries but feel that public health protection measures needn’t apply to them. AIBU?

@Evesgarden

How about.....

Some people dont want the vaccine for their own reasons and you mind your own business?

Interesting though they're not saying this to doctors, well those who still see patients.

@XenoBitch I knew about 2 of them but the rabies advice changed after a bat carrying it was detected on the south coast. At which point it became company policy for all bat surveyors to receive it. So then we all had a choice.

@Morgan12

Well Harry Kane isn't going to be looking after my granny so...

My granny would love it if Harry popped round though 😊

The two have absolutely nothing to do with each other, but any excuse to have a pop at footballers I suppose...

[quote Porcupineintherough]@XenoBitch I knew about 2 of them but the rabies advice changed after a bat carrying it was detected on the south coast. At which point it became company policy for all bat surveyors to receive it. So then we all had a choice.[/quote]
Rabies is totally different to Covid though.

Agree 100%. It will be interesting to see how many employers make a covid vaccine compulsory over the next few months

Yeah its a lot less transmissable.

The care sector is already understaffed so if they get rid of a load of staff then what is the alternative? Where are all these people desperate to work for close to minimum wage in physically and emotionally exhausting roles? Is it better getting no care than care from the unvaccinated?

What a ridiculous comparison

What about the clients that refuse to have it? Of which, if like the flu vaccine IME over thirty years, there will be many.

People are bothered now because this vaccine is new and has loads of documented adverse side effects - over 1,600 post-vaccine deaths in the UK alone. Of course, there's no way of knowing how many of those deaths are actually linked to the vaccine, but it's not unreasonable for (particularly young) people to be hesitant.

Besides which, being vaccinated does not even stop you getting Covid.

On a practical level, the industry is already so short of workers that I suspect many care homes will quietly ignore this requirement. There was a care home manager on the radio saying exactly this just the other day.

@Shitapillar

I think all those people insisting care workers should be vaccinated should volunteer to go and wipe peoples shitty arses for minimum wage themselves. Because no one should be forced to have an experimental drug they don't want. Let's see all those who say no jab no job fill the spaces left by people leaving their jobs. How many will there be stepping up do you think? I think we all know, it's gonna be fuck all.

At what point will the people objecting to the Covid-19 vaccination, stop calling it "experimental" and accept it as a valid part of the immunisation roster?

Genuine question.

@GreenLunchBox

Who the heck is voting YANBU?

maybe there's a lot of professional footballers reading

@Snookie00

The care sector is already understaffed so if they get rid of a load of staff then what is the alternative? Where are all these people desperate to work for close to minimum wage in physically and emotionally exhausting roles? Is it better getting no care than care from the unvaccinated?

Well if that's how you feel, maybe we should get rid of dbs checks? After all, abusive care is better than no care at all right?

Or we could improve pay and conditions to help attract and retain good staff maybe? Which, irrespective of covid, is long overdue.

@VladmirsPoutine

The thing is they might threaten to fire care home staff but as it stands (and it has for a while now) there's a huge need for care staff. Care homes are begging out for more staff so if they impose a no vaccine no work rule they'll need a continuation plan because it literally means leaving all your grannies and grandads sitting alone on their commodes. It's just not going to happen - they can 'encourage' it but doubt they'll mandate it as law.

There's a huge need for care staff, not because of Covid, or Brexit, but because of the truly appalling pay and conditions they offer. They can't keep staff because they treat them like shit. And that's according to a nurse friend of mine who works in the industry, co-ordinating staffing levels across several nursing homes. She's been known to work 16-hour shifts herself quite often, usually including overnight, to cover when there's literally nobody else available. That situation has been ongoing for at least the 10 or so years I've known her.

Surprise surprise. Footballers mix with groundstaff, physios, cooking staff, trainers and their own families. To say nothing of their private celebrations. So while not wiping bottoms they are certainly spreading it around.

Anyone travelling to Quatar will need vaccinations against Hepatitis A & B, Diptheria, Tetanus, Polio and Typhoid.

I work nights in a dementia unit, constantly busy. There has been plenty of times, where there have only been 2 of us for 30 residents. Carers have left not just because of covid or the vaccine. No one wants to do nights, must been costing us a bomb in agency carers. Some of which don't even turn up for their shift.

@waybill Oh absolutely. It's been a ball ache to adequately resource care homes for years even before covid was a thing. I'd personally welcome any MP who insists on taking over care for their elderly relative from an unvaccinated care worker to step right in.

I don’t agree with forced vaccination for anyone however footballers have a massive influence on many young people so from that point of view their vaccine status should either be withheld or they should have it.

I don't think it is a silly question, they travel up and down the country and often abroad, they are not in a bubble they mix with certainly more people than me.
Why have they started on carers? Because they ate ununionised, often low educated, foreign born and desperate oh and mainly women

It’s definitely happening. In my workplace a vaccinated person has been effectively fired because she didn’t want to provide her vaccine passport. She’s fully vaccinated but doesn’t want the booster and doesn’t want the app and doesn’t want to have to give up her confidential medical information to our (really awful) employer.

She’s walked into a higher paid retail job.

Carers are absolutely being dismissed for not be vaccinated too, we’ve been through legal consultation and anyone not vaccinated will be terminated.

What I don't understand is if they're doing this for carers how come they won't for NHS staff? Not like I agree with anyone getting fired, I just don't get it? Can someone explain it to me or am I just being dim

Why does a footballer's salary always get brought into things? Yes they earn more money than needed but that's between them and their manager not like the government is paying their wage is it? Plus no one should be sacked for not having the vaccine taking someone's rights/choices away should not be allowed to happen. Who is going to look after the vulnerable when all these carers walk out I only have a small circle of friends but know of 3 leaving the care sector because if this.

@Whichjab

I don't think it is a silly question, they travel up and down the country and often abroad, they are not in a bubble they mix with certainly more people than me. Why have they started on carers? Because they ate ununionised, often low educated, foreign born and desperate oh and mainly women

Vast numbers of the working population do exactly the same.

You really can't see why it's more important for those providing personal care to our most vulnerable?

@621CustardCream438 While ideally they’d be vaccinated, the phrase beggars can’t be choosers springs to mind.

It’s how we treat the most vulnerable that shows who and what we are. I find what you said here utterly repellent.