To think that vigilante justice should be back on the table?

[Dutch1e]

We give up the right to take personal revenge in exchange for being protected by institutions like police and courts.

When these institutions spectacularly fail women and children, can we consider the social contract broken?

At this point I'm struggling to see any other way to resolve male violence apart from a wide-sweeping free-for-all on every cat-calling, bantering, beating, raping murderer out there.

Do you mean like the A-Team, a team of vigilantes driving round the UK doing vigilante stuff or do you just mean a free for all, for example you see the neighbour letting their dog shit on your lawn so you can bash their brains out? Or do you mean controlled with appropriate levels of punishment for the crime committed? Also who gets to decide if a crime has been committed, would you just trust any gossip or would you require proof?

You're coming across as a bit of a psychopath op. There are people |I know who I would love to see getting what they deserve, but I don't thibk I have it in me to physically hurt anyone. Not many do really, unless it's in the heat of the moment.

As to your example, it goes like this:

Man - "how about a blowjob, love?"

You - brick in face.

Man ?????

I can guess that it ends up with you getting considerably more than a brick in the face back. Once things get physical women have no defence against an adult male.

I know you're just playing with us op, but this is very badly thought through.

I haven’t got any pitchforks, and baying is an ugly practice. So no. YABU.

No it wouldn’t work. How could you legalise personal revenge.

Whenever people have suggested alternatives to police and prisons it has been basically been a version of get someone to do the same job for free and get the criminals to say sorry to the victims. This just makes the vulnerable even more vulnerable.

If we allowed vigilante behaviour there would be awful racist attacks on black people and immigrants. It would just be whoever has the most power could harm who they liked.

I do fantasise about having powers like Matilda or eleven from Stranger Things and using them against all the men who have hurt me.

Have you seen Law Abiding Citizen… it’s a bit of a shit film really but also illustrates nicely why this sort of thing is a fucked up idea.

No, I definitely do not want vigilante 'justice', as it rarely ever is 'justice'. It's just thugs justifying being thugs.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/29/vigilante-murder-paedophile-bristol-bijan-ebrahimi

Oh yeah that’s going to go well. Women attacking men I’m sure a bad guy is not going to retaliate at all

What absolute toss OP

@Yankey812

no but maybe they should bring back the rope

Here we go

@Dutch1e

I think there are a lot of us on this thread imagining large groups of roving men playing sheriff against other men. I was thinking more about a cheerful brick to the face of the next sleazy man who says "how about a blowjob, love?" And imagining it en masse every day.

The recommendation upthread of voting and writing stern letters made me smile in a sad way. If that was going to work it probably would have centuries ago.

I do absolutely understand where the anger comes from and I sometimes imagine righteous retribution too but in practice what would actually happen in this scenario ^ would likely be:

After blocking/collecting himself from the blow, the brick would quickly be taken out of my hand and I would be subjected to a violent assault myself.

Weapons in the hands of those unused to them/violence, and in the hands of generally smaller and weaker people is just asking for the aggressor to take them off you and use them against you.

It does make me sad that voting etc has only got us so far in so so very long but realistically they are the only sane ways to enforce change.

Violence only begets violence and we as the generally smaller/physically weaker sex will ultimately be at the receiving end of far greater injustice and far likelier chances of being assaulted and killed than we already are should we as a society descend to mob rule and vigilantism.

@DroopyClematis

Yep... it's a no-no from me.

Still unable to comprehend the paedophile hunters descending on a paediatrician's home.

Don't worry about comprehending it because it didn't happen, as the Press Gazette explains

www.pressgazette.co.uk/a-tale-told-too-much-the-paediatrician-vigilantes/

I think it's safe to say that the Metropolitan Police have catastrophically f**ked up on this one, and they have got a long way to go to rebuild trust. I can also see why some people are worried and don't feel safe.

Having said that, if anyone is still interested in vigilante "justice" please bear in mind that I could easily destroy the life of any random person, just by posting their photograph on social media, along with any old unsubstantiated guff about what they do to animals, along with the phrase "Share the hell out of this!!!!!"

Cue the knuckle-draggers and their pitchforks...

Oh god, I do hate the share the hell out of this posts!
I agree, the police have a huge job on their hands rebuilding national trust and confidence and it's not the best start with the whole if in doubt, flag a bus down idiocy.