To think that meat eaters...

[hashbrownsandwich]

Should be comfortable to slaughter animals if they are happy to eat them?

The 'cheap chicken' threads have got me onto this and I'm at home with covid so be gentle!

My own personal background is that I am vegetarian and have been since I was 7. Own decision. I cook meat for my children and my husband because I believe, like i was given, it's a choice that can be made for themselves.

My husband is from farming background and has proactively raised and slaughtered animals. His conscience is entirely clear because he very much has the farmer mindset of raise the animal, give them a good life, dispatch and consume.

It's coming up to 'Turkey time' on the family farm and with the so called shortages forecast this year, I've found myself having more conversations with colleagues about the food chain/supply etc.

We live in an affluent area and we have lots of farm shops, butchers etc. However, I'm shocked that most people I know have said while they couldn't give up meat, they also wouldn't be happy to raise animals for slaughter themselves or to witness their slaughter.

So AIBU to to believe, if you're going to eat meat, it's your moral duty to be ok with animal slaughter?

Just to say, what I've tried in a long winded way above is that i'm not a preachy veggie and I'm not vegan.

I am all for people trying veganism. For me it has been a great experience. Some will fail but I find thats usually because they don't consider enough nutrition wise. You still need 1gram of protein per kg of body mass according to the advice so don't just swap beef for salad and chips. Protein is in rice/flour/ most vegetables though often low level/ seeds/nuts/ plus more. Just relearn nutrition using google/ join a few FB vegan groups/ shop at vegan markets. It's fun and very very tasty.

@Treesandsheepeverywhere

Where does it end though, meat eaters are an easy target. How about sweat shops, products of which a vast majority of us use, would people be happy to make their own clothes/gadgets etc? Exotic ingredients, grow your own? Weird for someone in a meat eating household to ask this without looking at the bigger picture. Grew up on a farm, have seen how the animals went from field to plate, no rose tinted glasses from an early age. Ate meat every single day and had fresh untreated milk from the cows. Both grandparents lived to 98 and 100 respectively. Felt sorry for the animals when I was little but there was never a choice not to eat the meat. You had your starch, meat and veg twice a day, porridgefor breakfast. If you didn't want somethingon your plate, there was no replacement, you'd just go without. Everything edible from the carcass was used and would happily slaughter my own knowing they'd been well bred and wouldn't go to waste. I'm 38 so not talking too long ago.

To see how much people value the lives. Even after number of wxposws on Boohoo and others about treatment of staff (latest suring pandemic) their profits sored. Looks like dress for a fiver, apples for pennies and so on who use modern slavery in some cases is fine, steak not so much.

t's fun and very very tasty

Ending up malnourished won't be fun, believe me

@hashbrownsandwich

Should be comfortable to slaughter animals if they are happy to eat them?

The 'cheap chicken' threads have got me onto this and I'm at home with covid so be gentle!

My own personal background is that I am vegetarian and have been since I was 7. Own decision. I cook meat for my children and my husband because I believe, like i was given, it's a choice that can be made for themselves.

My husband is from farming background and has proactively raised and slaughtered animals. His conscience is entirely clear because he very much has the farmer mindset of raise the animal, give them a good life, dispatch and consume.

It's coming up to 'Turkey time' on the family farm and with the so called shortages forecast this year, I've found myself having more conversations with colleagues about the food chain/supply etc.

We live in an affluent area and we have lots of farm shops, butchers etc. However, I'm shocked that most people I know have said while they couldn't give up meat, they also wouldn't be happy to raise animals for slaughter themselves or to witness their slaughter.

So AIBU to to believe, if you're going to eat meat, it's your moral duty to be ok with animal slaughter?

Just to say, what I've tried in a long winded way above is that i'm not a preachy veggie and I'm not vegan.

I would actually say to you that its none of your business.

And patronising "We live in an affluent area!)

Looks like dress for a fiver, apples for pennies and so on who use modern slavery in some cases is fine, steak not so much.

Personally I try to minimise my impact on everything like this that I can. I buy local food, ‘ethical’ fashion, toiletries, household products etc although it can be difficult to know the truth on things like that as so much hidden from us as consumers. And obviously I can’t dictate what my children wear now they’re old enough to choose and have their own money.
But for me, I do the best I can with the knowledge I have living in the world as it is. I don’t judge others though, I just hope things change to what I see as the better. Living in a world where we exploit everyone and everything so we can have it all cheaply and quickly is something that should change. People are more aware than ever though. People judging others doesn’t help.

Im not sure you can necessarily conflate "morally ok with" with "happy to do it yourself"

^This. There are a number of processes, services, jobs etc which are done by others, which I (and presumably most people) happily benefit from but would not be keen on doing myself.

Lol what a joke!
OP are you comfortable with they diary industry? The egg industry? Happy with live male chicks travelling along a conveyor belt falling into a grinder?

@BrendaBubbles

If you believe in using a plumbed toilet, you should be happy to go down the sewers to unblock it from time to time that it’s necessary. Same argument.

That.

I am a meat eater, but I am not happy to slaughter an animal because I would find it distressing and more importantly, I am not trained in humane slaughter at all.