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AIBU?

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People more concerned about doing their washing quickly than the environment.

535 replies

Starryskiesinthesky · 01/10/2021 07:49

AIBU to think it is totally depressing that people arent willing to make even small changes to try and stop the environmental crisis that is here. For example, not wanting to use an eco programme on machines because it takes longer, not prepared to dry clothes outside rather than use a dryer, driving everywhere rather than walking. If people who could, made small changes, it would all add up and we might be able to halt some of the damage we are doing to the environment and childrens futures.

OP posts:
Mirw · 04/10/2021 16:52

Seriously! You are judging people in general without knowing circumstances. I am fed up to the back teeth of people telling me what I should do to save the planet for the next generation. My question is why?
How many children today do not have plastic toyels, mobile phones, computers? Get driven to school? Have all the best gear? Yet go out and shout and bawl about saving the planet. When they give all that up as well as the holidays, then I might do more.
I don't have children. I live in a very old rented flat. All my furniture and my car are 2nd hand. I rarely fly l. I am doing more to save the planet than most. And yet people like you say I have to more. My response is NO!

generalh · 04/10/2021 17:03

I will wash what I like when I like. Hope that helps!

Starryskiesinthesky · 04/10/2021 19:43

@Wazzzzzzzup

I’m not telling folk what to do, I’m saying it’s depressing that so many people don’t care. I do what I can and I know it’s not enough and that I could do more. I am going to try doing more and I get that people all live different life’s but so many people said they just didn’t care.

The fact that they don't use eco wash doesn't mean they don't care. That's the problem with postings like this.
I care, I have draft proof garden which needs minimum water (bar some veg), I have it specially done for pollinators and other creatures. I use public transport when I can, I am mkndful of general energy use, don't have kids, don't buy unnecessary stuff and million other things. I don't waah on eco. Doesn't mean I don't care.

People need to get this into that thick head of theirs.
Everyone is doing something, if that something is not what you do, it doesn't mean they don't care. It just means they are doing something different.

No, some of them said 'I don't care'.
OP posts:
spottedbadger · 04/10/2021 23:02

We use eco setting and hang the washing outside from March to November (indoors with the window cracked in the winter). We have a Laundry Egg for adult clothes and use eco powder for the toddler. Don’t see the problem, just need to be a bit more organised, it may involve checking the forecast or putting the timer on but after a bit of training, even DP can now manage (and see both the benefit and importance of) putting appliances on on eco setting. We do lots of other things too - once you get into a sustainable mindset, you develop an ability to see sustainable alternatives and not feel too inconvenienced by them. But perhaps I’m just an ordinary mum and not a “busy mum” HmmGrin

elbea · 04/10/2021 23:30

@spottedbadger I’m not disorganised, I just like clean clothes, especially our nappies. Eco power, laundry eggs and low temperatures isn’t going to do that.

With half of the UK’s electricity coming from renewable sources everyday people should probably focus their disdain on something else rather than people who want actual clean clothes. The aim is to have 100% renewable in ten years and then it won’t matter one big what cycle people use.

AutumnInBustletown · 05/10/2021 00:47

Maybe we instead need to address our societal expectations that we all need to look so clean all the time?

Hygiene is one thing, but I remember as a child if we would spill something (food or drink) on our clothes we would get a cloth and scrub it off. Nowadays we get changed and throw the item in the laundry.

XenoBitch · 05/10/2021 00:49

I am confused. So the point of an Eco wash is to use less electricity? Yet we are being encouraged to use electric cars?

DdraigGoch · 05/10/2021 01:27

@canigooutyet

I don't drive, own a drier or use planes.

What are you doing to encourage companies to use less packaging? Or to stop with the plastic bags they use?

The UK isn't even in the top 10 of the worst polluters
China
US
Russia
Japan
Germany
Iran
South Korea
Saudi Arabia
Indonesia

What are you doing to lecture them about reducing their pollution?

Stop buying oil and gas should hit half of that list where it hurts. Most of the top 100 polluting corporations are oil giants. When you fill up your tank, you're already responsible for a massive amount of pollution before you even turn the engine on. So ditch the car and get a bike.
BadLad · 05/10/2021 02:13

@XenoBitch

I am confused. So the point of an Eco wash is to use less electricity? Yet we are being encouraged to use electric cars?
This is satire, right? You're parodying the nonsense that people say on environment threads?
choli · 05/10/2021 02:22

@Marguerite2000

Stop buying so much stuff would be a good idea, especially plastic tat. Only buy things that you really need. This christmas would be a good time to start.
But...but... the children need a pile of presents to open instead of one or two well chosen presents.
seaandsandcastles · 05/10/2021 03:10

But...but... the children need a pile of presents to open instead of one or two well chosen presents.

@choli You are aware each present in a pile can be carefully chosen too, right? It’s not like as soon as you get to three or more you suddenly don’t give a toss and are just buying for the sake of it.

RancidOldHag · 05/10/2021 06:13

A 'pile' of presents is a new phenomenon, and not one I have ever thought is a good idea.

I'd never even heard of it, before it became widespread on social media

Enko · 05/10/2021 07:03

Op I think we all have to do our bit to help the environment. Having said that I dont think that means we all HAVE to use the eco setting on the washing machine. We can all work out what we want to do to help.

For me we used cloth nappies and I know my children's nappies are not in a landfills somewhere.

For my girlfriend she chose to not use nappies with gel in for similar yet different reasons

So both of us did something for the environment even if it was not the eco washing programme.

I still have my little choices I use as they work with my lifestyle.

MoreAloneTime · 05/10/2021 07:16

OP have you considered that they told you they don't care because you kept going on at them?

kinzarose · 05/10/2021 07:39

I would never leave the washing machine on during the night or when I go out. When I was a young child we had a house fire from a washing machine that was on whilst we were sleeping. The fire services told DM that it should never be left on at night as it will take you longer to respond should there be a fire.

Wazzzzzzzup · 05/10/2021 08:20

No, some of them said 'I don't care'.

Yes. As a knee jerk reaction to preachy wideeyed "why can't people use eco programme?"

lockdownmadnessdotcom · 05/10/2021 08:23

I am very happy to dry clothes outside but we are getting into the time of year when they won't dry. What do you suggest then other than a tumble dryer (I don't have an airing cupboard).

NatashaRf · 05/10/2021 08:27

misses the point

My eco setting is shorter? Confused

darcy77 · 05/10/2021 08:30

I think most people who lecture and judge are hypocrites but somehow think they are justified.

I run a tumble dryer- I feel a bit of guilt but I feel it's needed at the moment (I have enough mould growing in the house without putting all the families clothes to dry inside!).
I also haven't flown anywhere for approximately 10 years and our main holidays are camping. Our family do no more than 3000 miles a year in the car and have done for years so we don't drive that much. I use reusable sanitary towels but couldn't get on with washable nappies. So I'm bad but not the worse. I am not going to beat myself up because a hypocritical person on the internet is judging me. You need to find a better way to influence others if that's your goal!

The people I know who share how eco friendly they are also flew the family to Lapland 2 years ago. But apparently they are only now aware of the climate emergency?
One friend went to the extinction rebellion protests- they have more air miles than anyone I know.
I don't mind people suddenly getting 'it' but don't pass judgement on everyone else.

Ultimately government will need to legislate because people are inherently selfish a lot of the time but it's ultimately too easy to make the poor choice at the moment. Legislation is the only way to make quick mass change. It can be done but I don't think government will do it.

Miseryl · 05/10/2021 08:35

So basically your life isn't environmentally friendly but you like to tell others theirs should be. Okay Hmm

Macncheeseballs · 05/10/2021 08:46

Lockdown madness, what do you think people do who don't own tumble driers?

Sockwomble · 05/10/2021 08:48

"We use eco setting and hang the washing outside from March to November"

It might be dry where you live but it has rained every day here for at least 8 days and I usually have several loads of washing a day ( disabled incontinent teenager).

TuftyMarmoset · 05/10/2021 09:36

@lockdownmadnessdotcom you know not everyone can afford a tumble dryer and but still manage to dry their clothes? Use an airer!

darcy77 · 05/10/2021 09:37

@brushlaptop

Meghan is that you?
Grin
Malin52 · 05/10/2021 09:40

It's quite right that worrying about eco settings on washing machines is fiddling while China burns on extraordinary emissions. It makes little to no difference.

And PPs are right. Why change when China are the problem?! Well we have outsourced our emissions to China. We manufacture nothing anymore so can sit smugly by and point the finger.

But why are their emissions so high? Because they manufacture stuff we buy. All that crap that adorn the shelves of debenhams and you get given for Xmas that gets put in a drawer, all the plastic crap your kids have, the cheap shoes, handbags, the electronics, the phone you are reading this on and the cheap cushion you bought from Home Bargains you are sitting on, the cheap make up brushes that lasted two uses, the light bulbs, the tinsel on your Xmas tree, the cheap clothes, the household plastics, kitchen ware, furniture, cars even trains and ships. The list goes on and on.

Each of us is a consumer and responsible for those Chinese emissions and every time a new consumer is introduced to the world and our insatiable appetite to give them more and more 'stuff' as cheaply as possible we contribute to that.

It's not the fucking eco cycle on the washing machine. It's the machine itself and the consumers in every house that demand its existence and every thing else that goes with 'another consumer'.

We need existing humans to think about what they consume and stop thinking that producing more human consumers is a right.