Page 11 | People more concerned about doing their washing quickly than the environment.

Gothichouse40 · 01/10/2021 11:41

Ive got to laugh if a million people used glass bottles instead of plastic. What do you think we were using for milk in the 1960s? It was big business and manufacturing that turned it all into plastic cartons, not us ordinary people. Most things eco cost more money. Where are people using food banks and living in absolute poverty going to find 30 grand for an electric car? How are batteries from electric cars disposed off? How environmentally friendly are electric cars really? To my mind there are loads of questions needing asked about electric vehicles for starters. How much of these products benefit the environment and how much actually benefit big business and politicians pals?

Shellfishblastard · 01/10/2021 11:46

Yes I think there are more things we can all be doing for sure

CuckooCall · 01/10/2021 11:48

@Starryskiesinthesky

AIBU to think it is totally depressing that people arent willing to make even small changes to try and stop the environmental crisis that is here. For example, not wanting to use an eco programme on machines because it takes longer, not prepared to dry clothes outside rather than use a dryer, driving everywhere rather than walking. If people who could, made small changes, it would all add up and we might be able to halt some of the damage we are doing to the environment and childrens futures.

Many many people are making small changes. They may not be the small changes you are making or I am making but they are small changes nevertheless.

Berkeys · 01/10/2021 11:49

100% agree OP. Most people are selfish and short-sighted. It’s their precious kids and grandkids who will suffer as a result….

Boriswentcamping · 01/10/2021 11:53

My washer / dryer is new and I went for an energy efficient model. A standard cotton wash takes nearly 4 hours and an eco wash even longer! I can do a synthetics wash, which is quicker but but only work on a half load, so hardly eco! I have a small house with very little space for an airer and when it's raining I have no choice but to tumble dry bed sheets, otherwise I have to fold away our kitchen table to make space for a drying rack. Family of four so lots of laundry. We do our bit and I would say we are quite environmentally conscious, but we have to live too... our new build house is not built for drying laundry! More importantly through... it's not as simple as blaming people for not using an eco wash. Read Micheal Mann's new book "The new climate war", especially the chapter on deflection and you will realise that these blaming posts are not helpful and will only divide us further - it's a really good book if you do want to make a difference! :) x

MoreAloneTime · 01/10/2021 11:59

OP why don't you offer to do people's washing on the eco setting if you have the time? Many people are spread pretty thin timewise.

Boriswentcamping · 01/10/2021 11:59

I also use a 100% green energy company, to power my washing machine, I rarely drive and don't ever fly.... so there is that.... but again it's not the point!

HarebrightCedarmoon · 01/10/2021 12:04

@Berkeys

100% agree OP. Most people are selfish and short-sighted. It’s their precious kids and grandkids who will suffer as a result….

We'ren't our parents selfish to have us then? There was a baby boom after WWII so they certainly knew about exponential population growth, and environmental damage due to industrialisation. Why are we getting it in the neck for wanting to carry on our current lifestyles or have a better one when that is all humans have ever wanted to do?

Silverswirl · 01/10/2021 12:06

@HereticFanjo no not really- very rainy here and my house isn’t especially warm but I did buy a £30 heated airer which I place next to a radiator which seems to do the trick

sst1234 · 01/10/2021 12:10

@Berkeys

100% agree OP. Most people are selfish and short-sighted. It’s their precious kids and grandkids who will suffer as a result….

Don’t forget to wag your finger and look up through your specs as you make this point.

woodhill · 01/10/2021 12:10

@Gothichouse40

Ive got to laugh if a million people used glass bottles instead of plastic. What do you think we were using for milk in the 1960s? It was big business and manufacturing that turned it all into plastic cartons, not us ordinary people. Most things eco cost more money. Where are people using food banks and living in absolute poverty going to find 30 grand for an electric car? How are batteries from electric cars disposed off? How environmentally friendly are electric cars really? To my mind there are loads of questions needing asked about electric vehicles for starters. How much of these products benefit the environment and how much actually benefit big business and politicians pals?

Yes definitely and what happens to the petrol cars. Huge mountains?

HarebrightCedarmoon · 01/10/2021 12:10

We need more people to have much fewer of them and reward them for not churning out more consumers rather than the other way around

Fine. The birth rate per woman in the UK is about 1.4, down from 2.93 in 1948. Can we have our reward now?

Wazzzzzzzup · 01/10/2021 12:10

@Comefromaway

I guess people who can afford to buy lots and lots of clothes have time to dry things on airers in their house. I buy much smaller amounts of clothes and they a pair of trousers for example will last me at least 5 years if I don't put weight on.

I have very littl clothes, and don't own a tumble dryer. Never did. You just need to create a good draft somewhere 😁

BoredZelda · 01/10/2021 12:11

But I’d it better to buy a new car or use the old one til it dies?

It is a complex question with many variables but to TLDR it, if you do low mileage it is better to keep the old one, if you do higher mileage, it is better to replace. But, given we’ll all have to replace them if the 2035 target for EVs is hit, it’s worth considering anyway if you are thinking about changing your car.

I don’t put the heating on until I’m cold with a jumper and socks on.

I’m always cold with socks on!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 01/10/2021 12:12

I often use the 30 degree quick wash - so 15 mins. Is that not better than having the thing on for 4.5 hours?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 01/10/2021 12:12

I don’t put the heating on until I’m cold with a jumper and socks on.

^^
Is that not what everyone does?

HarebrightCedarmoon · 01/10/2021 12:16

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

I often use the 30 degree quick wash - so 15 mins. Is that not better than having the thing on for 4.5 hours?

It surely must be. Washing machines heat the water, so if you have it on at 30C for an hour, it's only keeping it warm and turning the drum for an hour. If you have it on at 30 for 4 hours, it's doing the same thing for four hours.

I think what people were meaning was it's better to have it on at 30 for four hours than it is at 60 for 45 minutes or something which probably does compare favourably.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 01/10/2021 12:16

Oh I see! I only use those hotter temperatures if there’s a need to sort of disinfect the clothes!

HarebrightCedarmoon · 01/10/2021 12:18

Yes me too.

Suitcaseseverywhere · 01/10/2021 12:18

@BoredZelda

But I’d it better to buy a new car or use the old one til it dies?

It is a complex question with many variables but to TLDR it, if you do low mileage it is better to keep the old one, if you do higher mileage, it is better to replace. But, given we’ll all have to replace them if the 2035 target for EVs is hit, it’s worth considering anyway if you are thinking about changing your car.

I don’t put the heating on until I’m cold with a jumper and socks on.

I’m always cold with socks on!

I do under 5000 miles a year. I live rurally with a very poor bus service and I am disabled. I need a car.

I’m currently in attractive walking socks

Suitcaseseverywhere · 01/10/2021 12:19

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

I don’t put the heating on until I’m cold with a jumper and socks on.

^^
Is that not what everyone does?

Not from what I’ve seen on threads here!

HarebrightCedarmoon · 01/10/2021 12:20

I nearly always use the dishwasher on Eco because Intensive is crap anyway which I think is more like 40C for 3.5 hours instead of 70C for two hours or something.

SuperStarRose · 01/10/2021 12:22

My washing machine works out how much water is required for the amount of clothes in there. It's Bosch and isn't fancy or more expensive than your average machine. My dishwasher is similar and also by Bosch and came free with my kitchen 14 years ago

KeepScrapingBy · 01/10/2021 12:23

I don’t understand why an eco cycle on a washing machine takes 4 hours? Doesn’t it use more electricity?
I use the 50 minute cycle at 40 degrees most of the time. I think the so called eco cycles aren’t really eco at all.

SuperStarRose · 01/10/2021 12:26

Yes I mainly use the one hour cycle on 40 or 60. The normal cycle is 2.45 hours and I don't have patience for that as I often have to wash later in the evening for it to air dry for the next morning

I use the 15 min 30 degree or delicate wash for my delicate clothes.