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Is it Jab or Jag?!

170 replies

FawnFrenchieMum · 27/09/2021 10:19

I see both written and never know which is right?

I always say jab but wondering if I’m wrong?

YANBU - Jab
YABU - Jag

OP posts:
HunkyPunk · 27/09/2021 12:44

@thing47

A shot is something else entirely, surely? In both Scotland and England it's something you have with your pint… Grin
I thought in Scotland it was a wee dram? Grin
TheWoleb · 27/09/2021 12:44

@KingsleyShacklebolt

And there we are.
You have no experience of it, it doesnt affect you, you dont care about it. Therefore, it isnt a real thing.
Getting reminders of the petrol thread. You've never been down to only £10 left for fuel, it doesn't accept you, you dont believe it's a real thing so would happily make policy to screw over anyone who actually does experience it.

Think we've got the measure of you.

FlorrieLindley · 27/09/2021 12:44

An Aberdonian sounds completely different to a Glasgwegian, a Hebridean islander sounds completely different to a citizen of Edinburgh, there is not just one single Scottish accent.

OneTC · 27/09/2021 12:46

Depends where you're from and/or if you've ever been a smackhead

Same360 · 27/09/2021 12:46

I’ve literally never heard of an injection being called a ‘jag’

TheWoleb · 27/09/2021 12:51

@FlorrieLindley

An Aberdonian sounds completely different to a Glasgwegian, a Hebridean islander sounds completely different to a citizen of Edinburgh, there is not just one single Scottish accent.
Did someone say there was? Dont think anyone has discussed accents at all.
GalaxyPostcard · 27/09/2021 12:52

It's 'jag' for me, I'm Glaswegian

GalaxyPostcard · 27/09/2021 12:59

Also, Scots bloody well is a language thank you very much! I'd like to see how much you could understand if a whole text was in Scots - nae much, that's for sure! I'm a fluent Scots speaker and I'm proud of it. Just as Gaelic is a language in parts of Scotland, Scots is a language in another part.

And no I don't vote SNP ffs.

CecilyP · 27/09/2021 12:59

It is a language. It is recognised as a language.

But is it a language if other English speakers can understand it perfectly well without having to go to classes to learn it? If an English RP speaker suddenly started speaking Scots (I mean more than just the odd word) would Scots speakers like it or would they think the RP speaker think them a bit odd?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 27/09/2021 13:01

@OuiOuiBonjour

Geamhradh

Chap my door and we can have a blether and cook up some plots Wink.

Can I join in, when I’ve been for my messages, please?
CecilyP · 27/09/2021 13:05

Also, Scots bloody well is a language thank you very much! I'd like to see how much you could understand if a whole text was in Scots - nae much, that's for sure!

Slightly different as we are literate with standard English spelling whichever way we speak it. With written Scots, we are back to sounding out the letters which is rather slow and tedious (probably even for Scots speakers). Whereas, if spoken, it is easy enough to understand.

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GalaxyPostcard · 27/09/2021 13:05

@CecilyP

It is a language. It is recognised as a language.

But is it a language if other English speakers can understand it perfectly well without having to go to classes to learn it? If an English RP speaker suddenly started speaking Scots (I mean more than just the odd word) would Scots speakers like it or would they think the RP speaker think them a bit odd?

Scots language when written/spoken as a whole text isn't always legible to everyone who reads or understands English, actually.
TheWoleb · 27/09/2021 13:05

@CecilyP

I dont very much that you would understand all the words without learning what they mean, or having heard them used throughout your life. It isnt just English language words said in a Scottish accent.

Also, um... why would anyone care if other people used those words? I thought English people did say some of them. Either way, a language is still a language even if other nationalities use words from it.

TheWoleb · 27/09/2021 13:06

*doubt

OuiOuiBonjour · 27/09/2021 13:10

Can I join in, when I’ve been for my messages, please?

Aye ma doors nae locked an ma pantry's foo. If ya've wains cuid ya bring some juice when yer in fe yer messages as ah've nun.

(I'm a Fifer eh?)

Suitcaseseverywhere · 27/09/2021 13:11

Set the messages on the bunker sure.

BoredZelda · 27/09/2021 13:12

I think jag is a Scots usage.

Not all Scots, just the south.

Quickchangeartiste · 27/09/2021 13:12

@FlorrieLindley

An Aberdonian sounds completely different to a Glasgwegian, a Hebridean islander sounds completely different to a citizen of Edinburgh, there is not just one single Scottish accent.
Absolutely this.

I am Scottish. It’s Jab where I live, but I appreciate that someone less than 100 miles from me will use different dialect.

OneTC · 27/09/2021 13:12

You can't fully understand a person speaking doric without knowing what the words mean. Yes lots is dialect but there's loads of unique words

CecilyP · 27/09/2021 13:14

I dont very much that you would understand all the words without learning what they mean, or having heard them used throughout your life. It isnt just English language words said in a Scottish accent.

The actual different words are not that numerous and easy enough to pick up through normal conversation. Lifelong exposure isn’t necessary. The rest is pretty much pronunciation. Of course it looks completely different written down as would any regional pronunciation written phonetically.

Stuckhere2021 · 27/09/2021 13:15

I’m Scottish and cringe when anyone over the age of 5 says they are getting a jag. Don’t use jab either. I just say I’m getting my vaccination. If you are easily offended or Liverpudlian, look away now.

Is it Jab or Jag?!
CecilyP · 27/09/2021 13:16

I think jag is a Scots usage.

Not all Scots, just the south.

No, it’s used in the Highlands too.

AbandonedCharacter · 27/09/2021 13:23

"The actual different words are not that numerous"

They mostly certainly are, and differ from area to area. You should have a look at some of the books translated into Scots by Itchy Coo, such as Harry Potter or Roald Dahl, to see some of the Scots words used. Or have a look at the Dictionary of Scots Language.

FolornLawn · 27/09/2021 13:25

Jag or jab, no bother to me either way. Is dozes (instead of doses) a thing? The professor on the telly (Linda Bauld?) says that.

Geamhradh · 27/09/2021 13:28

@Same360

I’ve literally never heard of an injection being called a ‘jag’
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