Karen

[LuckyAmy1986]

m.imdb.com/title/tt12636872/

Aibu to think this is outrageous?!

@Proudboomer

I am going to make a film. The story is going to be a group of Pakistani men grooming the white pre teen girls in their street in Bradford. I am going to call it Mohammed after the lead male groomer. It will stereotype every Muslim man as a sexual predator and the new internet language will use the name Mohammed as a way of describing non white sexual predators.

I am sure it will be a great hit.

I am sure no one sees anything wrong with this and netflicks will be beating down my door for rights to show my film.

Wow! Thanks very much but Mohammed's really don't need your Netflix movie. The have the 'Random Selection' at US immigration as a friendly reminder, everytime!!

@Proudboomer

I am going to make a film. The story is going to be a group of Pakistani men grooming the white pre teen girls in their street in Bradford. I am going to call it Mohammed after the lead male groomer. It will stereotype every Muslim man as a sexual predator and the new internet language will use the name Mohammed as a way of describing non white sexual predators.

I am sure it will be a great hit.

I am sure no one sees anything wrong with this and netflicks will be beating down my door for rights to show my film.

Please do, it can't be worse than that Dad's Army remake.

@Antinerak

The only people offended by the nickname 'Karen' are the ones who really fit the stereotype. If you're upset about a racist white woman being called Karen, maybe it's because it hits too close to home. You should deal with that in your own time. We see you

That’s crap because now it’s being used to describe any middle aged woman having a strong opinion.

@Proudboomer

I am going to make a film. The story is going to be a group of Pakistani men grooming the white pre teen girls in their street in Bradford. I am going to call it Mohammed after the lead male groomer. It will stereotype every Muslim man as a sexual predator and the new internet language will use the name Mohammed as a way of describing non white sexual predators.

I am sure it will be a great hit.

I am sure no one sees anything wrong with this and netflicks will be beating down my door for rights to show my film.

Using a persecuted minority to make a point is really low. Muslims get enough shit without bearing the brunt of this as well. Shame on you.

I’m middle aged and opinionated

Never been called a Karen

@Girlmum89 yes you caught me, my name is Karen (even if it was, so what?)

@Girlmum89 why exactly does the film look hilarious to you? Not a funny subject IMO.

I think the idea for the film is good

Mostly in tv and films racism is shown as name calling and violence because that makes better entertainment it’s obvious and it’s those type of people not nice people that are racist

The underhand racism that can be just as damaging and harder to confront isn’t

[quote LuckyAmy1986]@Girlmum89 why exactly does the film look hilarious to you? Not a funny subject IMO.[/quote]
You should watch it. It really is (unintentionally) funny.

It’s not stereotyping older women. It’s stereotyping racist women who use white fragility to oppress black people It may have started out that way but I’m struggling to remember the last time I saw it used when it wasn’t by a white man, against a woman expressing an opinion he disagreed with. In fact, the last time I saw it was yesterday on a social media post asking whether there were going to be fireworks at Centre Paris this Christmas or whether the ‘Karens’ had ruined it for everyone.

Parcs

It's a meme and will fall (is falling) out of usage. It passes over to the stage where it's more embarrassing for the user than the recipient e.g. OK boomer.

@Proudboomer

I am going to make a film. The story is going to be a group of Pakistani men grooming the white pre teen girls in their street in Bradford. I am going to call it Mohammed after the lead male groomer. It will stereotype every Muslim man as a sexual predator and the new internet language will use the name Mohammed as a way of describing non white sexual predators.

I am sure it will be a great hit.

I am sure no one sees anything wrong with this and netflicks will be beating down my door for rights to show my film.

Calling someone karen is not the same as actual racism ffs.

The pp didn't say it was the same as racism

@OhWhyNot

The term Karen is used against privileged older women who will indirectly be racist

They may not use racist terms but it’s still there and it still harms people

For years they have been able to go about their merry way without being shamed now they can’t

Boofuckinghoo

Ah, of course. Great way to silence someone. To quote Sarah Ditum:

"It’s a finger trap insult, where struggling against it only makes it grip tighter. When its defenders say that there’s no reason to worry about it so long as you’re not a Karen, what they’re really doing is proffering an individual exit from the abuse — so long as you agree that some women deserve it, maybe you can qualify for a pass."

...the name Mohammed as a way of describing non white sexual predators.'

What are you going to call white sexual predators? John.

Nearly 90% of those convicted of wider child abuse offences and on the sex offenders register are white men.

So maybe forget John and just call your film 'white men'.

Whilst everyone seems to be discussing how terrible it is for middle aged white women, my first thought upon clicking the link was, 'not another tragic film about black people '.

Don't get me wrong, women have issues with representation in films but I sometimes wonder what black people actually think about films themselves. When I look at it relatively few films are about black people having a regular, or good time. Mostly it's about them involved in some tragedy, violence or how bad it is to be black. This is especially true where black people make up a large or majority cast. I'm sure there should be some equivalent Bechdel test for this!

I guess for a form that's majority women the discussion would naturally go one way but is interesting.

This is from a year ago?

Hi all, this discussion is from a year ago so we're going to close it now.
Feel free to start a new topic though...