The idiotic Insulate Britain are at it again

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Now they have blocked the port of Dover. On top of Lorry driver shortage and commodity supply issues, these absolute criminals are causing yet more damage to the supply chain. And who suffers? Joe Public suffers yet more price hikes because virtue signalling, well healed, are damaging the country so no benefit whatsoever. None at all. Hashtag less than 1% of global emissions

If you search #fridaysforthefuture and #uprootthesystem, you will see that today children around the world (not just the rich world) are begging us to take action. BEGGING. What right do we have to ignore them?

@Theythinkitsalloveritisnow

The only result that these protests will get is allowing the government to get their law against protesting passed. So yeah, thanks for that

Ah well, best give up then.

@Summerhillsquare

The vitriol towards environmentalists on this thread is rather self defeating. Environmentalists are trying to save YOUR lives. 10s of thousands of Britons die from air pollution and cold housing ALREADY. In recent years people have been dying from heat exhaustion in heat waves. Thousands flooded out of their homes and businesses.

How do you reckon things are shaping up for your kids and grandkids with several degrees of warming? At least they are doing something for them.

And yes, I have I insulated the fuck out of everything and my house costs pennies to run. I just think everyone else should have that too.

Oh gosh, how very patronising.

What are they doing, exactly? Apart from antagonising the shit out of the very people whose support they need - ie the general public.

The vitriol is not directed towards environmentalists per se. It is directed towards insufferable attention-seeking twats.

[quote Theythinkitsalloveritisnow]@Summerhillsquare people get angry when they see privileged people- and yes people who don't have to worry about getting to work so they can pay the rent are privileged- deciding to cause chaos at whim. Tbh I am a strong supporter of their cause, and that's partly the reason I'm so frustrated at the way they are protesting. If the cause is so important to them they need to find a way to get attention without alienating the general public.[/quote]
Most certainly privileged. And unenvironmentally friendly, it seems.

One of the key protagonists is a multi millionaire property developer. Whose tenants are living in badly insulated homes...

So, an entitled twat is delaying people who need to get to hospital, trying to disrupt supplies of food and other essential imports - and stopping people who need to work for a living get to work.

Here's an idea, Joshua Smith. Insulate your own fucking homes (all of the many you own).

@Summerhillsquare it really isn't a binary choice between doing nothing and pissing most of the country off. Pretty obvious I'd have thought.

@theythinkitsallovernow so would you like to address my earlier point, what is the acceptable form of protest that doesn't inconvenience you but also makes a difference?

Where the fuck does this radio host get the idea from that Insulate Britain are housing association tenants? If they were they would be saying their homes are over insulated and far too hot.

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@Summerhillsquare I dunno, I don't have a PhD in "how to achieve social change through civil disobedience" unlike Roger Hallam. I do think it would be a good idea to try to come up with something other than antagonising the people you need on your side but y'know, I'm sure there is some kind of thinking going into their ideas that I'm just too stupid to understand

This calls for some direction action from the public, like when commuters at Canning Town a couple of years ago decided they’d had enough of XR’s shit.

All this demanding is absolute bollocks.

Someone on another thread was trying to make out that driving cars is a non essential, so therefore equivalent to this non essential protest.

So they want to have zero emissions blah blah. Yet they don't think about how we'd need an entire infrastructure to replace the transport we use to get to essential things like work. It's all just shouting about not enough being done, but none of them have any idea what they actually want done. Or what they need to put in place to replace what they pull out.

There's people making a fuss about a coal mine opening up. Yet it's primary use is to make steel, steel which is essential to a lot of these eco solutions.

And then there's this insulate Britain crap. Yes, some buildings require better installation. However, there's probably a lot more to it than that. The cladding on Grenfell was for insulation wasn't it? That shows what poorly planned quick insulation can cost. It's funny how the people running it seem to be the kind of people who would benefit heavily from the government paying money to sort out something they as landlords are responsible for.

It's just virtue signalling and the people doing the real work, like the scientists working on real eco solutions are probably stuck in the jams with all is plebs.

@Moneysavvymam

Will you refuse free insulation if they succeed then?

My house is insulated so, err, yeah probably 😂

@ithinkilikeit

Your pint was good until the last part OP, of course the U.K. should have less than 1% of global emissions considering it has lass than 1% of the world population. Western people farm out their emissions to China as most of our goods are made there. If we allocated the emissions of exports of China into the U.K. onto the U.K. then the picture would be much worse for the U.K. and much better for China. Sorry it’s an idiotic argument that falsely represents the U.K. is doing well in elision when it is not.

Exactly what I was trying to get at but put much better.

They are monumentality stupid. Pissing the majority of the nation off was never going to end well 😂

Then the case to put is that the UK takes responsibility for the toxic load of the goods we commission & import from China & other countries where we offset the environmental impact of our economic growth.

Less junk, better built goods & develop the case from there. It’s a huge consideration but something that is fair to grasp & sustain.

Noticeable during early stages of Covid lockdown from satellites was the clearer skies over China mainland.