The economy has shafted millennials: now it wants their offspring too

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AIBU to ask your opinion on this article?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/23/economy-millennials-children-low-birthrate?CMP=fb_cif&fbclid=IwAR1C57OgCdGCGhSr5uVLI5tRVeMCq-eNtyyxEuUiYOjYgSn5P2w3yMHQeTM

As a dreaded millennial and a mother I find it very sad and very true for a lot of people I know.

I’m a Millennial myself so you can grab your handbag and do one.

@AutistGoth

yes I couldn't have bought without parental help despite being able to live at home. A couple of years younger & all things being equal prices would have been out of my reach.

@Samuraisammy

I’m a Millennial myself so you can grab your handbag and do one.

As I said, I am very lucky and own a lovely house. That doesn't stop your comments being factually wrong.

@Samuraisammy

I’m a Millennial myself so you can grab your handbag and do one.

I am a "millenial" too. Not sure what your point is except that you are ignorant or economics?

@OddSockReunion with a nice handbag

I’m a Millennial myself so you can grab your handbag and do one.

A predictably disappointing and fact-free response the all of the facts highlighted by me and other posters.

As I said earlier in the thread, humans are depressing.

[quote Samuraisammy]@OddSockReunion with a nice handbag[/quote]
How exciting for you.

Wage stagnation is a massive issue, the salaries in lots of industries are often the same as they were 15 yrs ago.

@OddSockReunion my comment was at another poster who assumed I must be a boomer. Not sure why you’re rocking up to my comment other than to want to harp on about your lovely house. Edit nobody cares

That doesn't stop your comments being factually wrong.

what do you mean facts? why can't I extrapolate my very narrow experience to the rest of the country? 🤔

By the time you factor in the cost of housing,especially the cost of housing,bills,repayment of tuition fees,the ever increasing cost of living,it’s a big enough gamble before even thinking about children.
Obviously this doesn’t apply if you get council housing.

I should also add to this that taxes are higher now die to fiscal drag (tax rates not being uprated with inflation): you used to in the '80s need to be earning the equivalent of £85k today be paying higher rate income tax. Now it's less than half of that.

Great point

@Samuraisammy Yes, your earlier post about how you and your OH believe young people are frittering away money by not living at home with their parents as fully grown adults is very much indicative of you being a Millennial.

Several users have now explained why you are wrong. But it suits you better to believe that it's all our own fault. Why admit that Millennials have problems that Boomers did not and Boomers had advantages that Millennials do not when you can simply brand everyone (except you, apparently) born from 1980 to 2000 as selfish, lazy, feckless and living their lives wrong?

Edit nobody cares

However we are all waiting with bated breath for more of your excellent insights!

[quote Samuraisammy]**@OddSockReunion* my comment was at another poster who assumed I must be a boomer. Not sure why you’re rocking up to my comment other than to want to harp on about your lovely house. Edit nobody cares*[/quote]
I only said I am a homeowner to preempt tedious attacks about how I must be so jealous and bitter etc when actually, despite my lucky situation, it's obvious to me that most of my (and according to you, our) generation have been utterly screwed. What is perplexing is why it is not obvious to you. Is this like the Brexit thing where people had "had enough of experts" so decided that their opinions based on the people they know were more reliable than data and economics? Not working out so well, that approach, is it?

I bought my first home in 2001 & paid £34,000 for it, that house is now worth £125,000 but salaries haven't kept pace with house prices. Ds is 17, I can't ever see a time where he will be able to buy a home of his own. We are getting to a stage where we have an elderly heavy population, as elderly people are retiring there aren't young people starting work to replace them, lots of my generation have only had one child because we either chose to have children much older or because we couldn't afford to have more than one child. Until the economy is in a better state I can't see this changing. We need more young people to fill jobs & to pay taxes or the economy will eventually grind to a halt.

@wellards

That doesn't stop your comments being factually wrong.

what do you mean facts? why can't I extrapolate my very narrow experience to the rest of the country? 🤔

The comment you are quoting from me was a response to @Samuraisammy, not to you @wellards.

@wellards if you really want to join an AmDram class there’s probs a few in your are, quit rofl with yer handbag over your comment to me and pipe down with a cuppa soup

@wellards

That doesn't stop your comments being factually wrong.

what do you mean facts? why can't I extrapolate my very narrow experience to the rest of the country? 🤔

Sorry just realised you were joking @wellards! Too tired. Off to bed!!!!

[quote Samuraisammy]@wellards if you really want to join an AmDram class there’s probs a few in your are, quit rofl with yer handbag over your comment to me and pipe down with a cuppa soup[/quote]
But what kind of handbag is it??? We are all dying to know. I am sure it is amazeballs. How many avocado on toast did you sacrifice to buy it? Please share your wisdom with us.

@OddSockReunion oh sorry I was being sarcastic there & predicting Samuras response.

The ladies are retiring with their handbags

You’ve got the handbags with all your getting knickers in a twist.
All this ‘how dare you’ nonsense from a previous poster and other handbag codswallop.

[quote wellards]@OddSockReunion oh sorry I was being sarcastic there & predicting Samuras response. [/quote]
It was very funny, I just didn't get the sarcasm when I first read it. 🤦🏻‍♀️😆