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Family in Law Problems

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MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 18:43

Please be kind with comments because I need a little perspective here if I am being unreasonable/hormonal or if I am warranted to be a little annoyed? This is a bit of a long one so I do apologise.

I have a horrible feeling when I am around my family in law. My MIL is overbearing with my partner & his sister (shes overprotective & way to involved in each of their lives - something I’ve never been used to). My partner has an older sister who is approaching her 30s & has never had a relationship/child etc. I think naturally she always thought she would be the first to settle down & have a family and I can understand that so I was highly sympathetic to this for a long time.

I was with my partner for a year and then I found out I was pregnant. I was 21, he was 23 & we were young and excited so when we told both sets of immediate family and before I knew it all of the family knew because they decided to share it. This made me really uncomfortable because I was only around 6 weeks at the time and months prior to finding out I wasn’t even sure I could have babies. When we got our 12 week scan, all was okay and we shared it online (stupidly). My sister-in-law posted it as though it was her who was experiencing the pregnancy… I let it go because we were so happy regardless. This was one of the many things to come. Throughout the pregnancy she would make little comments or post things that was really about our little family but try to pass it off as her own - such as scans, etc. I let it go.

When my daughter was born, it was really touch and go for both of us. I had GBS & it spread to my daughter in birth, she ended up exremely poorly in the NICU (I won’t go into it but she was a miracle as doctors says she could have died). I was also severely unwell and was in and out of conciousness. My partner had updated family that baby was born and then before we knew it all the posts started coming through on facebook all the while my baby is in the NICU & I am drifting between conciousness. I had no idea how bad it all was until days later. I am still really traumatised by it. Thankfully we had no visitors because of COVID but we experienced the NICU stay and all the fear alone in the hospital. They didn’t see that.

When I came home I was in a deep state of PND that I wouldn’t eat, sleep or talk and I was always crying etc. At the time we were staying at my PIL as we lost our home due to covid/losing our jobs etc. I needed my mum more than ever before and I was just hurting and upset all the time. The first night of us being home it was overshadowed by my Family in laws wants as they wanted us to stay up all night in the livingroom so they could see the baby, they wouldn’t give us baby back and just kept going on and on about how much my daughter doesn’t look like me or my partner but looks like my SIL. Btw she looked nothing like my daughter. But it hurt because it was a comment that was repeated over & over again. My partner had to tell my Family in law to stop the comments as it was hurting my feelings. But not 2 weeks later on my first birthday as a mum they both decided to come in to our room with big memory books to ‘prove’ how much MY daughter looked like my SIL right before we went on our first walk together as a family. Again, she didn’t look anything like her. But it hurt me so much that I was crying the full night.

My daughter has now just turned 1 and in the past year it has continued to the point where I don’t want to be around any of them. It has affected my relationship with my partner and it was a big part of my PND (as I felt like less than). I feel I have bit my tongue and myself & partner have both suffered mentally trying to keep everyone happy but ourselves. They have her one night every weekend to bond, we travel 30 miles all in 2 times a week on top of that so that they can see her and in the entire year they have visited us twice because my SIL refuses to drive up here with PIL?

In the past year my SIL has tried to claim all the big special milestones of our first year as parents & of my daughter as her own. She bought my daughter a halloween costume which she INSISTED my daughter HAD to wear on Halloween and got upset when I said I had actually bought my own daughter stuff for halloween. I felt that bad I had upset her so I put it on and took a photo for her but she took that photo and posted it all over social media without out consent. Then on halloween, we had planned to have a family night carving pumpkins, making cupcakes and watching films but she made a big point of trying to involve herself even though we specially said we wanted to do it as a family as it was my daughters first halloween. She again got upset because I told my partner to tell her to stop being so involved.

Shes went out her way to do stuff to impose herself & her family enable the behaviour even though we have on numerous occasions actually said that its too much and that its not her place. Whenever I try to say anything about how we are parenting our child (rear-facing car seat, weaning at 6 months, bedtime at 8pm) my parents in law will say things like “oh we had two kids and we did it this way so we cant do it your way” or they agree but then completely ignore everything you have said and are so blatant about it. So it creates a trust issue also. They make me feel as though I am so irrelevant and that they think my SIL is actually my daughters mother. I don’t get any respect and neither does my partner in regards to how we choose to parent our children. I try to tell them the reasons why we choose to do things the way we do but it falls on deaf ears and starts an arguement.

My SIL posted photos of my daughter half naked all over the internet and I asked her to take them down (commenting on the post) and she completely ignored me. She told us she was buying a cheap (non isofix) forward facing seat for my 1 year old daughter for “when she wants to take her out” - I told her not to bother as my children wont be sitting in that seat as they arent safe. She got all upset. Like the list goes on.

How on earth do I approach this because it is driving me insane. I have my second on the way late december/early january and I am stressing myself out for all the same happening again I think. I can’t keep going through the cycle with them! Please help me on how I can calm myself as well as how I can let her know to stay in her own lane and not have to go through it all again.

Pleaseeeee help me

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Ofallthethings · 24/09/2021 10:28

I feel for you, this is a tough one. You've got the perfect excuse for taking a massive step back from all the visits/overnights though - you're pregnant and getting too tired /big for all the driving, and as you're the only one who will drive then this ball isin your court. The overnights are unnecessary and I agree with someone upthread who said they sound like they may try and keep your Dd given a chance.

God they sound really manipulative and weird . There's no wonder your DP is struggling with this. Use being pregnant to not visit very much and don't get back into the habit of going so much once the baby is born. They don't respect you or DP so you cannot allow them to keep walking all over you. Hopefully a bit of distance may encourage them to behave better.Your children can still be close to their grandparents and just see them once a week or fortnight etc.
And well done for standing up to them so far and setting the boundaries with your DP.

Ofallthethings · 24/09/2021 10:44

Also do you have a children's centre nearby? It may be worth finding out if there's a group for young parents locally , would help you make some friends in similar circumstances to yourselves. Which would help your mental health hopefully. There was an outreach worker at mine who helped me a lot when I had PND.

Justilou1 · 24/09/2021 12:13

If you’re driving then you get to say no. Stop doing it. You have the power to demand partnership. If you don’t get that from him you also have the power to leave.

Howshouldibehave · 24/09/2021 12:48

If you’re the only one prepared/able to drive, you literally hold all the cards. What are they doing to do-force you to drive at gunpoint?!

MazIsWin22 · 24/09/2021 13:10

Hi everyone, thank you all for replying and giving me some really useful advice! I really appreciate it. We spoke about it at great lengths over last night and this morning. It really came down to me saying how I have felt and why I wont be tolerating it from him or from my in laws anymore. He understandably got upset but I didn't back down and we ultimatley we worked it out as best we can between us to then go forward and tell them whats going on.

We told the family in law that we won't be coming over as often as we have been and that it will be a case of when we want to from now on. They seemed to take it better than I imagined. My MIL was understanding (weirdly) and my SIL is pissed but whats new. I don't think the penny has actually dropped yet but I am sure they'll realise soon enough. We agreed between myself & partner if they ask we'll tell them respectfully that we don't want me travelling a 30 mile round trip especially with being pregnant and the late nights coming in. But also because we want time to ourselves and not having to travel 24/7 or meet anyone elses expectations.

My partner told my SIL to remove the photos to which is she gave off a really immature response but agreed to do it (last night). Shes still not removed any of them so I told my partner either he speak to her or I will, so he called her to tell her to remove them asap and again reinstated the reasons why. She was short with him and was like "okay whatever". The phonecall was about 2 hours ago and she still hasn't taken them down. I will be giving her until around the 6/7pm mark and then I will have a personal word if she still hasn't removed them. If she refuses though I am at a genuine loss as to what to do.

I feel alot better, not perfect but its a major major step in the right direction!

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MazIsWin22 · 24/09/2021 13:27

@Ofallthethings

Also do you have a children's centre nearby? It may be worth finding out if there's a group for young parents locally , would help you make some friends in similar circumstances to yourselves. Which would help your mental health hopefully. There was an outreach worker at mine who helped me a lot when I had PND.
Thankfully I have had such a good support system with my mum & dad. My health visitor & my midwife have been amazing too, then referred me to a perinatal team to help me cope but I think doing some of the work has just made me realise that this is a really big trigger and it wont get better until I address it. I'd love to go to the little groups but they have been so backed up with requests because it was all suspended during covid and I found the whole process of applying to be on a waiting list a little much. Im hoping its alot different when my second comes along though 💗
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Billybagpuss · 24/09/2021 13:56

If the pics are fb I think you can report them and insist fb remove them. But give her a bit more time to play the sulky princess first.

PhoboPhobia · 24/09/2021 13:57

That sounds really positive and well done for standing your ground with DP. I think you can be sympathetic to how hard it might be for him without backing down.

I’m not sure but I think you can report the photos if they are on FB?

Good luck and come back to this thread if you feel yourself wavering. As someone has mentioned, being young is irrelevant. You sound like a great Mum and you deserve to parent and see family as you choose.

crosstalk · 24/09/2021 14:02

Well done OP. And your DH too because it must have been a major step for him. I wouldn't worry about the SiL's social media - just don't send out any photos or post them yourself unless within a privacy wall. Now's also the time to be as generous as you want to to your ILs so they know you welcome them as grandparents PROVIDING they stick to your boundaries.

Mumoftwo1990 · 24/09/2021 14:26

@MazIsWin22

Do you think its unreasonable if I now ask them to remove any and all photos of my daughter from social media? Quite honestly I don’t want my family and life plastered all over social media
I don't allow anyone to post photos of my kids, I've told anyone to ask me first and sometimes i say yes, Other times no.

I was in a similar position of feeling I wasn't good enough and my MIL is mostly great and well intentioned but she has her way of doing things and says the whole 'she raised 2 kids this way' etc

ThreeLittleDots · 24/09/2021 14:47

I would watch SIL very closely if I were you.

LittleOwl153 · 24/09/2021 14:54

Photos you can get removed. But be aware than she can just change her settings so you don't see what she posts going forward- even if you remain on her friends list.

You need to restrict access to any future photos. If she can't be trusted with not posting or your MIL with passing them on to be posted, then they can't have them. Simple as that.

Drinkingallthewine · 24/09/2021 15:44

Lots of people now choose not to put their children's photos on SM - several in my family don't and furthermore, it's pretty much the norm that you'd only ever put photos up online of your own children, and not children belonging to other people.

If you don't want them up, get the social media providers to remove them from her profiles. Sure, SIL would probably go off her head but fuck her. She was asked nicely to do it several times so had the chance to resolve this quietly. And start as you mean to go on.

Agree in advance that it's a joint decision by both of you and wanted equally by both of you - none of this 'oh personally sis, I was fine with the photos but Maz didn't want them up' If you are to conquer this family and put in healthy boundaries, how you communicate this matters - so it's all WE. We don't want DD to go so frequently to your house. We don't think Maz should be driving this much. We want DD to bond with baby. We feel that you coming to visit us here would suit DD better at the moment.

Also, another tactic is to offer them choices that suit you - eg "we can't bring DD to you this week I'm afraid, we can do it on X date, or if you want to see her sooner, you could come here" So they can't accuse you of cutting them off - because you did offer solutions that work for you. Practising this method is great because it gets you used to being assertive, building your confidence up to the point where you feel able to say an outright no when it warrants it.

Early on, I saw friends and other family members run ragged trying to rush between families for Christmas so we (the royal we Wink) decided that until Santa stops visiting, we stay at home, and people are welcome to come visit us, but that childhood Christmases are about children getting to play with their toys, not having to leave them behind and spend hours in a car on icy roads to visit granny. We are also happy to visit others outside of Christmas Eve and Christmas Day but those days we stay home. It got a raised eyebrow or two but the others that started their families after us have also adopted our arrangement themselves.

Lastly, a small anecdote. My lovely MIL once overstepped in my home and upset me. I quietly withdrew for a few months. No confrontation. Just became 'busy' with various things. Because it was typically me rounding us up to visit her, those visits decreased a good bit. OH was free to bring DS to her but he never bothered as much as I would have. After a few months she got the message that if she started to dictate to me how I run my life, or home that I would withdraw and that she would see less of her DS and GS as a result. It worked and she never did that again.

Justilou1 · 24/09/2021 16:58

Just read about someone whose MIL let herself into the house in the middle of the night and took 4wk old breastfed newborn back to her place for a “sleepover” at grannie’s place which mum and dad had been refusing to do from day one. Mum woke in a blind panic when baby hadn’t woken her for a feed and baby was gone. When she went to call the police, there was an sms photo of baby with grandmother at her house and a note saying “Didn’t want to wake you, so giving you a break.” (Was 2am-ish)… The DH told wife that she was overreacting when she demanded the key back. She is getting a divorce.

Autumngoldleaf · 24/09/2021 17:19

Fabulous op, often I feel and it happened to me, a huge problem with in laws is being wishy washy and not putting the foot down or drawing a line in the sand!!

Once you do that and are firm, things become much easier.

QueenBee52 · 24/09/2021 17:54

@Justilou1

Just read about someone whose MIL let herself into the house in the middle of the night and took 4wk old breastfed newborn back to her place for a “sleepover” at grannie’s place which mum and dad had been refusing to do from day one. Mum woke in a blind panic when baby hadn’t woken her for a feed and baby was gone. When she went to call the police, there was an sms photo of baby with grandmother at her house and a note saying “Didn’t want to wake you, so giving you a break.” (Was 2am-ish)… The DH told wife that she was overreacting when she demanded the key back. She is getting a divorce.

Oh my god 😳

SandraGreen · 24/09/2021 18:15

As SIL still hasn't removed the photos just report to FB and they will do it.
I wouldn't give her the satisfaction of asking for a third time...

MazIsWin22 · 24/09/2021 18:37

@SandraGreen

As SIL still hasn't removed the photos just report to FB and they will do it. I wouldn't give her the satisfaction of asking for a third time...
I commented the first time on the post to ask her directly to remove them, I was ignored completely. I then let my partner ask her over text, she was childish but agreed to do it. He then had to ask her again today which she agreed to but ignored. I gave her like 2 full days from originally asking so I thought I would bite the bullet and be direct with her and message to ask when she plans on deleting them. She read the message, ignored it and deleted them on facebook but kept them all up on instagram (even though I directly referenced this). Its just beyond petty 😂 think my next step will be to write on all of the posts telling her to get it done asap. Its so so petty
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2bazookas · 24/09/2021 18:57

Just tell them "from now on if you want to see DD, contact will be at our house only, within her routine and on our terms, thatmeans, by appointment. Do not turn up unannounced.

We are concerned about some of the photos of DD that have appeared on social media. From now on, ONLY images of her approved by us can be put on social media. Anyone who disregards this limit will no longer have access to DD.

Billybagpuss · 24/09/2021 19:07

Plan B, let her keep them up on Instagram but she never gets the opportunity to have another pic of dc ever again.

MazIsWin22 · 24/09/2021 19:09

@2bazookas

Just tell them "from now on if you want to see DD, contact will be at our house only, within her routine and on our terms, thatmeans, by appointment. Do not turn up unannounced.

We are concerned about some of the photos of DD that have appeared on social media. From now on, ONLY images of her approved by us can be put on social media. Anyone who disregards this limit will no longer have access to DD.

Absolutley agree, we've told them so really Im sticking to my guns and not backing down with it
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QueenBee52 · 24/09/2021 22:46

good on you 🌸

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