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Family in Law Problems

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MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 18:43

Please be kind with comments because I need a little perspective here if I am being unreasonable/hormonal or if I am warranted to be a little annoyed? This is a bit of a long one so I do apologise.

I have a horrible feeling when I am around my family in law. My MIL is overbearing with my partner & his sister (shes overprotective & way to involved in each of their lives - something I’ve never been used to). My partner has an older sister who is approaching her 30s & has never had a relationship/child etc. I think naturally she always thought she would be the first to settle down & have a family and I can understand that so I was highly sympathetic to this for a long time.

I was with my partner for a year and then I found out I was pregnant. I was 21, he was 23 & we were young and excited so when we told both sets of immediate family and before I knew it all of the family knew because they decided to share it. This made me really uncomfortable because I was only around 6 weeks at the time and months prior to finding out I wasn’t even sure I could have babies. When we got our 12 week scan, all was okay and we shared it online (stupidly). My sister-in-law posted it as though it was her who was experiencing the pregnancy… I let it go because we were so happy regardless. This was one of the many things to come. Throughout the pregnancy she would make little comments or post things that was really about our little family but try to pass it off as her own - such as scans, etc. I let it go.

When my daughter was born, it was really touch and go for both of us. I had GBS & it spread to my daughter in birth, she ended up exremely poorly in the NICU (I won’t go into it but she was a miracle as doctors says she could have died). I was also severely unwell and was in and out of conciousness. My partner had updated family that baby was born and then before we knew it all the posts started coming through on facebook all the while my baby is in the NICU & I am drifting between conciousness. I had no idea how bad it all was until days later. I am still really traumatised by it. Thankfully we had no visitors because of COVID but we experienced the NICU stay and all the fear alone in the hospital. They didn’t see that.

When I came home I was in a deep state of PND that I wouldn’t eat, sleep or talk and I was always crying etc. At the time we were staying at my PIL as we lost our home due to covid/losing our jobs etc. I needed my mum more than ever before and I was just hurting and upset all the time. The first night of us being home it was overshadowed by my Family in laws wants as they wanted us to stay up all night in the livingroom so they could see the baby, they wouldn’t give us baby back and just kept going on and on about how much my daughter doesn’t look like me or my partner but looks like my SIL. Btw she looked nothing like my daughter. But it hurt because it was a comment that was repeated over & over again. My partner had to tell my Family in law to stop the comments as it was hurting my feelings. But not 2 weeks later on my first birthday as a mum they both decided to come in to our room with big memory books to ‘prove’ how much MY daughter looked like my SIL right before we went on our first walk together as a family. Again, she didn’t look anything like her. But it hurt me so much that I was crying the full night.

My daughter has now just turned 1 and in the past year it has continued to the point where I don’t want to be around any of them. It has affected my relationship with my partner and it was a big part of my PND (as I felt like less than). I feel I have bit my tongue and myself & partner have both suffered mentally trying to keep everyone happy but ourselves. They have her one night every weekend to bond, we travel 30 miles all in 2 times a week on top of that so that they can see her and in the entire year they have visited us twice because my SIL refuses to drive up here with PIL?

In the past year my SIL has tried to claim all the big special milestones of our first year as parents & of my daughter as her own. She bought my daughter a halloween costume which she INSISTED my daughter HAD to wear on Halloween and got upset when I said I had actually bought my own daughter stuff for halloween. I felt that bad I had upset her so I put it on and took a photo for her but she took that photo and posted it all over social media without out consent. Then on halloween, we had planned to have a family night carving pumpkins, making cupcakes and watching films but she made a big point of trying to involve herself even though we specially said we wanted to do it as a family as it was my daughters first halloween. She again got upset because I told my partner to tell her to stop being so involved.

Shes went out her way to do stuff to impose herself & her family enable the behaviour even though we have on numerous occasions actually said that its too much and that its not her place. Whenever I try to say anything about how we are parenting our child (rear-facing car seat, weaning at 6 months, bedtime at 8pm) my parents in law will say things like “oh we had two kids and we did it this way so we cant do it your way” or they agree but then completely ignore everything you have said and are so blatant about it. So it creates a trust issue also. They make me feel as though I am so irrelevant and that they think my SIL is actually my daughters mother. I don’t get any respect and neither does my partner in regards to how we choose to parent our children. I try to tell them the reasons why we choose to do things the way we do but it falls on deaf ears and starts an arguement.

My SIL posted photos of my daughter half naked all over the internet and I asked her to take them down (commenting on the post) and she completely ignored me. She told us she was buying a cheap (non isofix) forward facing seat for my 1 year old daughter for “when she wants to take her out” - I told her not to bother as my children wont be sitting in that seat as they arent safe. She got all upset. Like the list goes on.

How on earth do I approach this because it is driving me insane. I have my second on the way late december/early january and I am stressing myself out for all the same happening again I think. I can’t keep going through the cycle with them! Please help me on how I can calm myself as well as how I can let her know to stay in her own lane and not have to go through it all again.

Pleaseeeee help me

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Billybagpuss · 23/09/2021 19:42

I think your partner sounds like he’s struggling with all of this too?

There are books mentioned on here often (help me someone I don’t know them) stuff to do with overcoming FOG (fear obligation guilt) with toxic families.

I think you need to sit down with DH and work out what your boundaries are. Then help him to help you both to implement them. Absolutely removing the pictures from sm should be first on the list. Stopping the overnights second. That’s not going to be practical once dd starts nursery etc anyway.

CattingT · 23/09/2021 19:51

This is ridiculous.

Stop allowing them to have her 1 night a week. Stop going over there all the time. Stop giving them the opportunity to take lots of photos.

If you act like a doormat and allow them to bully you into getting what they want then of course they'll carry on doing it, it's working for them.

Simply tell them it's not convenient to keep coming over multiple times a week, you have your own lives.

Invite them to come to YOURS for dinner once a fortnight. Politely decline their requests to see them constantly.

MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 19:53

@StripeyBadger

I would stop the overnight stays, stop sending them updates and photos of anything you aren’t happy to on social media, and generally stop letting them walk all over you.

What about your family in all of this? Are they nearby for support? Do you now have a home to go back to for after your baby is born so this doesn’t happen again?

My family have honestly been the only thing keeing me going (other than my daughter). I visit them often because they respect my boundaries and are really good at keeping an open line of communication. They listen and respect us so naturally im happy to be around them more often. It doesnt sit right with my family in law because they get to see my daughter & be more involved but I try not to get upset about that because the way I see it is you need your own mum during motherhood - especially the beginning and I do not apologise for it and with that I let my mil get as 'upset' as she likes because its not my problem anymore
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Ambo21 · 23/09/2021 19:56

..oh and I would keep a pocket size pack of paper hankies to hand mother -in-law next time she has a tantrum...
Emotional blackmail should never be encouraged..

PennyWus · 23/09/2021 20:04

I've said yabu. Why do you want to bond your DD with these people?. You just need to stop visiting, stop sharing with them, step away.
When you do have to see them, Smile and nod, ignore them. Stop the overnight stays. Use the excuse you are pregnant and can't travel, and want to maximize time with DD before new baby arrives. As for SIL, if she won't drive to see you, then that problem is solved. Anyway it is much harder for PIL and SIL to overstep in your own home.

MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 20:05

@Billybagpuss

I think your partner sounds like he’s struggling with all of this too?

There are books mentioned on here often (help me someone I don’t know them) stuff to do with overcoming FOG (fear obligation guilt) with toxic families.

I think you need to sit down with DH and work out what your boundaries are. Then help him to help you both to implement them. Absolutely removing the pictures from sm should be first on the list. Stopping the overnights second. That’s not going to be practical once dd starts nursery etc anyway.

He really is but sometimes its hard to accept and in the midst of hormones I forget he is struggling to stand up to his family. He was in a bubble all of his life because of his mum and its hard to make him see sense and grow up. I mean he didnt even know how to do the dishes or clean the house let alone raise a family or stand up to his mum and sometimes I get exhausted trying to help to navigate that I just forget
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MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 20:07

@PennyWus

I've said yabu. Why do you want to bond your DD with these people?. You just need to stop visiting, stop sharing with them, step away. When you do have to see them, Smile and nod, ignore them. Stop the overnight stays. Use the excuse you are pregnant and can't travel, and want to maximize time with DD before new baby arrives. As for SIL, if she won't drive to see you, then that problem is solved. Anyway it is much harder for PIL and SIL to overstep in your own home.
Honestly I think its more of a feeling of thats all we got. I have no friends - they all left when I got pregnant & became a mum. My partner has friends but they are all for themselves and don't bother with him unless it benefits them. With covid and becoming a mum I just had a sense of family is everything but I think the illusion is starting to crumble tbh
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Brefugee · 23/09/2021 20:36

you can report the photos, if it's facebook, and have them removed if your SIL won't do it. Give her one chance then do it.

And you have to put your foot down. No overnights for starters.

Good luck

GeorgiaGirl52 · 23/09/2021 20:48

Post two pictures on Your Facebook page. One of your SIL with DD and one of you with DD. Add a caption: "There seems to be some confusion, so just to be clear - here is MY DD with her Auntie and here are DD and Me (her Mom). Doesn't she look just like me?" Then post only pictures of your DD with either you or your DH. No pictures of her alone that your SIL could copy.

noprofessional · 23/09/2021 20:58

Report the photos. I did when my SIL did this and they were removed.

Smashingspinster · 23/09/2021 21:00

Unless you have DH onside you have no hope of setting better limits with them. He needs to step up. I wonder if they are going on about SIL because she has no kids and they want her to feel better? Not that it is ok, but that may be why. I think you may have to go LC.

MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 21:27

@GeorgiaGirl52

Post two pictures on Your Facebook page. One of your SIL with DD and one of you with DD. Add a caption: "There seems to be some confusion, so just to be clear - here is MY DD with her Auntie and here are DD and Me (her Mom). Doesn't she look just like me?" Then post only pictures of your DD with either you or your DH. No pictures of her alone that your SIL could copy.
Hahaha I actually love this, if she continues after we've set down clear ground rules I think I might take this approach
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MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 21:31

@Smashingspinster

Unless you have DH onside you have no hope of setting better limits with them. He needs to step up. I wonder if they are going on about SIL because she has no kids and they want her to feel better? Not that it is ok, but that may be why. I think you may have to go LC.
I've spoke to him again tonight about it all and we're going to have a discussion and write down what we think is okay and whats not that way we can refer to it with one another when something is said or something happens and then we can tell them what is what and hopefully they are on board but if not then its their loss. I wasnt even going to post tonight but I was actually thinking I was unreasonable but I'm glad that I'm not crazy and that the feelings are valid
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magicstar1 · 23/09/2021 21:38

You need to get this sorted before you give birth to your second. I bet they’ll “suggest” that they look after your one year old to let you get the baby settled in. Then start the excuses as to why she should stay longer...eventually you’ll have a struggle to get her back. (Something similar happened a while back in my family).

Heartofglass12345 · 23/09/2021 21:39

Oh that must be so hard for you, especially as you do sound like you want your daughter to have a good relationship with her grandparents.
I think writing everything down is a great idea. Are you going to show it to them? Their reaction to your rules will tell you everything you need to know really.
It might be worth discussing what you're going to do if they don't agree with your rules and end up arguing with you though (by you I mean both of you not just you lol)

skyisblue21 · 23/09/2021 21:46

Who says family in law. The first I've heard

MaskingForIt · 23/09/2021 21:54

@skyisblue21

Who says family in law. The first I've heard
Seems like a perfectly good use of valid words in the English dictionary. A lot easier on the eyes than FIL, MIL and SIL. Good on the OP for being eloquent.
MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 22:02

@skyisblue21

Who says family in law. The first I've heard
Im not quite sure what you mean? But I only joined today so maybe that'll answer your comment/question?
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MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 22:04

@magicstar1

You need to get this sorted before you give birth to your second. I bet they’ll “suggest” that they look after your one year old to let you get the baby settled in. Then start the excuses as to why she should stay longer...eventually you’ll have a struggle to get her back. (Something similar happened a while back in my family).
They actually have suggested they look after her during the birth of my second but I've said no as my mum and dad are going to look after her while we are in hospital. I never even considered that they'd try and keep her longer and honestly I think your right, I think they'd try it!
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MazIsWin22 · 23/09/2021 22:08

@Heartofglass12345

Oh that must be so hard for you, especially as you do sound like you want your daughter to have a good relationship with her grandparents. I think writing everything down is a great idea. Are you going to show it to them? Their reaction to your rules will tell you everything you need to know really. It might be worth discussing what you're going to do if they don't agree with your rules and end up arguing with you though (by you I mean both of you not just you lol)
Yeah I really want my babies to have amazing relationships with all of her family, its always been really important to me as I always felt I never had that with my grandparents. Struggling to find the balance though haha. But your right, I think we should consider the possible bad outcomes too and discuss what to do when they happen haha
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abw94 · 23/09/2021 22:12

They have completely manipulated your PND and that is disgusting.

Firstly, they are your partners family and he needs to stand up to them and put some ground rules down, he obviously sees how this is affecting you by first account so if that's not enough to stand up to them I don't know what is.

Stop the overnight stays. If they want a relationship they can come to you, seems your making the effort for a relationship you're not even that keen on.

You need to put some boundaries in place because this family seem to be walking all over you and they'll stamp all over you again with your second.

They know where you live if they want to see you and your kids they will. If they don't that's their issue.

And it's a big fat NO to having a car seat in your SIL's car. If she's too afraid to drive to your house then clearly she's an incompetent driver so is not safe to drive your children around.

PineappleB · 23/09/2021 22:19

MIL has the first grandchild, got over excited and doesn't know what's a boundary. SIL got no relationship and nothing to do and doesn't know what's a boundary. That's definitely not ok.

You two are young and this is difficult situation to handle. But you can do it.

To start with, make sure you and DH are on the page. You two agreed what's ok and what's not . Then get DH to talk to MIL / SIL (they are his family). Try to do this calmly but sternly. Tell them you two are DD's parent abs certain things you are not ok with (eg sharing your child's photo in Social media without your consent ). Tell them you will not take DD to stay overnight with them anymore. If they want to see DD they can come visit once every 2 weeks.

Every time SIL says DD looks like her, DH should respond 'don't be silly. OP is her mum of course she looks like OP. Don't say this again.'

If MIL try emotionally blackmail, DH can use the same strategy. ' Mum, do you want me to have a happy life. I am just starting a family. I need you to respect me and OP's rule so we can build the family together. We cant do it if you don't follow our rule. Don't you want your grand child has a happy family?'

They won't back off immediately but you two need to stay firm and be consistent. You can do it

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 23/09/2021 22:19

If she burts into tears you need to treat her like a toddler. Dont argue or reason with her, it will prolong the tantrum. If you ever give in, it will encourage more tantrums. If your daughter sees that she gets her own way through crying then she will probably try it as well. A cheery 'Oh dear, it's difficult when we feel frustrated isnt it, shall we (insert something distracting that isnt what she wanted originally like go for a walk to cheer ourselves up). She acts like a toddler she gets treated like a toddler. You can also give her time out- every time she kicks off you warn her that if she continues then you will go home with your daughter as it's not good for her to witness this behaviour, and follow through with it.

Also...stop visiting her! A new baby is a great excuse to break the habit. Make sure you invite them down to yours so that if they moan you can tell them they have had plenty opportunity to see your daughter

PineappleB · 23/09/2021 22:20

And help SIL sign up for a dating app. She needs to have her own life so no time to interfere yours.

MinnieGirl · 23/09/2021 23:59

SIL sounds seriously creepy….. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they were planning to try and keep your daughter. I would be very worried by their behaviour.
A one year old does not need to have a sleepover away from mum and dad. She is your child not theirs. And they need to understand that. I would never have left my child with anyone at that age. And they sound totally deranged anyway….

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