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(*Possibly Triggering*) AIBU to feel violated, and want to complain...

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HoundofHades · 20/09/2021 12:55

I have name-changed for this, for fairly obvious reasons.

Let me preface this by saying the following: I am 45 years old, a survivor of CSA and rape, and I am disabled. I have a degenerative brain condition which, until fairly recently, was pretty much invisible – however, following an admission to hospital 3 months ago, my mobility is now reliant on aids. I walk with crutches and have had to have a stair lift installed, because I lack the strength to safely haul myself anywhere. I still have full mental capacity.

After my release from hospital, I reluctantly agreed to have a team of carers enter my home. I live with my teenage son and adult daughter (who has severe MH problems, herself)... and I have a dog. I'm not one of these people who believe that their dog lacks the ability to be aggressive – whilst she's friendly and thrives on social interactions, at the end of the day she is an animal. She is also a rescue dog, whom I've worked hard with to train and do everything in my power to stop her from perhaps one day biting someone. She is extremely attached to me. She also barks to alert me to things (people entering/leaving our home being one of them) and I am alert to her body language at all times.

The team who came into my home for the first 8 weeks were the “rapid response” carers. I appreciate how lucky I was that my request for no male carers be assigned during this period was respected, and that the ladies were all “dog people” (my dog revelled in this, because she had 4 new “friends”!). These carers also listened to me, and encouraged me to start regaining my independence – when they last saw me, I was being helped to independently use the stair lift and go downstairs for a few hours during the day, having been cooped up in my bedroom with only the odd hobble along the landing to the bathroom every now and then. They also helped me to strip-wash, change my lower half of clothing (I struggle to put my legs into trousers/put socks on or off) and wash my hair over the sink. But the bits I can clean? I was allowed to. They understood that I'm embarrassed by “needing” carers at all (it's a learning curve) and that my independence is very important to me.

On Friday, I had an assessment with the agency of carers who were going to take over from the “rapid response” team, with the view to having one carer coming in twice a day to help me on my journey to regain as much independence as I can, and assist me with using the stair lift to go downstairs/back upstairs with a hot drink in the late afternoon. The supervisor who came out was almost ridiculously enamoured with my “sweetheart”of a dog, and agreed my parameters of the assigned carer being “dog friendly” and not treating me like I'm incapable of doing absolutely anything for myself. I explained that I feel almost humiliated by even needing a carer at all, still, and that my condition is severely aggravated by stress (it triggers flare-ups which may put me back in hospital). I also made it very clear that I don't require help with medication(s) and that my children help me prepare the evening meals - the supervisor said that they understood “completely”. All well and good, I thought, and agreed to “Julia” starting on Saturday morning...

Since then, the following has happened:

Saturday - “Cheryl” arrived instead of “Julia”. Used the key safe to open the front door and shout 'hello' repeatedly as she very obviously stood in the doorway – which caused my dog to bark more than she usually would from the top of the stairs where (and this is important) I could see her the whole time. Her tail was wagging and she kept looking to me for reassurance, because this new carer was confusing her. After a few minutes, my dog gave up and returned to lie on the bottom of my bed. At this point, “Cheryl” marched into my bedroom and started to scream at me, aggressively, about my “nasty”, “vicious”, “aggressive” dog. I'm not someone who intimidates easily but I genuinely felt as though she were about to hit me. She then demanded my Nomad as she “had” to give me my meds – and got even angrier with me when I said that (a) I didn't need help with them and (b) had taken them a few hours prior. At this point, my daughter appeared from her bedroom and very politely asked her to leave. What was my “aggressive” dog doing whilst this was going on? Lying on the bottom of my bed looking bewildered. “Cheryl” flounced from the house and I called the agency to pretty much say “WTAF?!” - I was assured that it was a mix-up/miscommunication and they'd send someone else out on Sunday. No afternoon visit as “too short notice”, so I had to have a partial wash under my own devices/remain upstairs (both children were out with friends from just after “Cheryl”'s departure until late evening). Fair enough, I thought; these things happen...
Yesterday (Sunday), there was a knock on the front door which generated a few barks from my dog and my daughter thinking it was her parcel being delivered. She opened the door, having told the dog to wait upstairs (which she did) – and saw “Carer #2” retreating up the road. From my bedroom at the back of the house, I could hear this woman yelling about how my dog is “angry” and “vicious” and she was going to call the agency and tell them to stop “all care” as a result. I (accurately) concluded that “C#2” doesn't like/is frightened of dogs and called the agency myself. I spoke to someone who sounded as though she couldn't give a flying fuck, and said that she would “see what [she] could do about [today]'s visit”. Day two of limited strip-wash and confinement upstairs. I spent the day alternating between being grateful the carer didn't know anything about the key safe – and wondering what would have happened if my daughter wasn't home to immediately open the door...? Obviously, I would have been without care, regardless, as – right now – I am unable to get to the door and answer it safely.

Which brings me to today. “Mary” arrived and, luckily, is a dog-person. However, “Mary” also spent time berating “the dark lady” who is frightened of dogs and has subsequently labelled mine as “extremely aggressive” on my file with the agency – because she barked in excitement at a knock on the door! I got the impression that “Mary” doesn't like “#2” because of her skin colour... which sits very uneasily with me. My daughter is biracial. However, by this point, I was desperate for a hair wash and help with cleaning the bits I struggle to reach... I explained my needs very clearly – particularly that I use pH friendly feminine wipes and that I clean that part of my lower half myself...

Well, perhaps needless to say, “Mary” took it upon herself to not give me any choice in the matter. Subsequently, in spite of my verbal protests at the time, not only was shower gel infused water on a sodden flannel rubbed all over and into my vaginal area... she smacked my hand away from trying to stop her, as though I were a naughty child. Luckily, my son wasn't here (he'd left for college before she arrived) but my daughter – who is working remotely right now – stepped onto the landing to find her mother nakedly vulnerable and on full display, due to “Mary” having decided to open the bathroom door because my dog – picking up on my distress – was whining and scratching to be let in! “Mary” was asked to leave, and my daughter had to help me get dry and dressed once more.

I feel violated. My stress levels are through the roof. I absolutely do not want any more “care” from this seemingly incompetent agency, and am about to complain... but AIBU for wanting to complain to Adult Social Care, who employed them to come into my home, about them? I can't help but wonder how many elderly clients are being abused/violated in the same way as I've been over the last few days – and how many have been left without care because, despite the agency being told about dogs living at the address, they've sent people who are frightened of/by dogs out to them? How many survivors of sexual assaults have been left feeling as violated as I do right now (2 hours later, and I'm still shaking)? Yes, I know that things are stretched to near breaking point, but I also know that this level of “care” simply isn't good enough – especially as I want to regain as much independence/quality of life as I possibly can, was on the road to so doing, but know that this agency's staff aren't interested in helping me to do so. They'd be happier if I'd agree to lying immobile in bed all day/every day for the rest of who knows how long! “Mary” announced as soon as she set foot in my bedroom today that I “need” a fridge, a table, a kettle for hot drinks in here. Which no; I don't – because I have a fully functional kitchen downstairs! That place which I was being encouraged to spend time in by the “rapid response” carers only last week! The more stressed I am, the less likely to recover I am – and despite my children's offers to care for me... I don't want them to. That'd humiliate me far more than strangers doing it.

If anyone's gotten this far... any advice would truly be gratefully received right now. I will be complaining – but I do need to calm down slightly before doing so. My daughter's offered to do so on my behalf, but she's furious and it wouldn't end well, not to mention the fact that I'm worried about her own MH suffering if she causes a complete withdrawal of care for me.

OP posts:
MrMeSeeks · 20/09/2021 17:20

COMPLAIN. I do not say this lightly but this is disgraceful.
Sounds like they are using the dog as an excuse.
The way the last ‘carer’ treated you is disgraceful, dread to think how they may have treated people with no family/dementia etc.
I’m so sorry, you do not deserve it Flowers

Doubleraspberry · 20/09/2021 17:28

@blubberyboo

Yanbu to complain about the verbal abuse, lack of care, incompetent agency not paying heed to notes and Mary forcibly washing you.

However some people are very afraid of dogs and as are as triggered by them as you are by your abuse history

If they are that traumatised by dogs, the agency shouldn't be sending them anywhere near the house. There is a clear informed choice to be made on whether an individual carer is sent to the OP's house.

It can't be compared with being assaulted.

cansu · 20/09/2021 17:30

You definitely need a new agency. Would you be better off having direct payments and advertising for a carer yourself? That way you can possibly get someone you feel comfortable with and who will listen to you. I think the issue is these carers have clearly not read the care plan and are used to caring for people who are unable to advocate for themselves. It is very poor and yes you should expect and get better.
I think though with regards to the dog, it might be better if the dog is in the bedroom with the door closed especially if the carer is expected to let themselves in. Many people would be frightened about letting themselves in to a house with a strange dog barking behind the door.

toconclude · 20/09/2021 18:33

Absolutely complain. Start formally with the agency but smacking your hand is abuse and a matter for Safeguarding so copy in Adult Care Services.

Rosscameasdoody · 20/09/2021 19:46

Sorry OP I re-read your post - missed the fact that the carer slapped your hand out of the way when you tried to stop her from touching your private parts. This is so bad. I hate the assumption that disabled people somehow don’t feel things in the same way and it’s OK to treat them in this way. We’re supposedly living in enlightened times, but sadly, these incidents are far from rare. Please don’t think you have to endure it, because you don’t, and please do report it and make a fuss. The care agency should take further action against this woman and I would let them know that you’re considering involving the police - it’s assault, pure and simple. You are entitled to be treated with respect and care - if they can’t do that, then I agree, it’s time to ask for direct payments and arrange your own care.

blubberyboo · 20/09/2021 23:30

@Doubleraspberry

No, Plenty of people have been assaulted by dogs and to them that’s just as much a trigger as any other type of assault. It is a very real trigger just as much as people are triggered by reminders of their assaults by humans.

By the sounds of it the agency hasn’t communicated the sexual assault history or the OPs actual capabilities to their staff so what makes you think they pay attention to any concerns their staff have about the workplace?

Not to take away from OPs experience here as it is very bad, BUT the dog should be kept in another room when carers are in as they have a right to go to work without being afraid. If nothing else it helps OP call out the poor aspects of care without it being under a cloud of “well the dog is acting dangerously”.
If the dog is out of the equation then they can’t complain.

blubberyboo · 20/09/2021 23:31

But I agree with posters who say she should just find another agency and defo complain.

KittenKins · 21/09/2021 06:26

Firstly can I say that I'm so sorry this happened to you. We have a similar history of abuse and a similar level of care needs. I'm 38 and in a nursing home that I got placed in after my ex"D"H was arrested of abusing me, like my past wasn't bad enough. I'm awaiting to move back into my house with a care package but I've had carers since I was 20, but enough about me.

Can I give you some advice about the care? The majority of carers are female & the care company have to respect that. I, for example don't have male staff even in my room. A lot of carer's assume that you can't do anything because a lot of clients either can't or don't want to and are used to people taking control of their lives. You need to be very firm with the carers about what you can and you can't do. I, for example can wash myself above the waist on my front, but I can't do below and I find it really difficult.

Little things help me, like making sure I have lots of towels and I'm never left naked at any point. A large towel covers my body & a smaller towel is used to dry my legs, then back & bum. I ask them to warn me before touching me in areas like my vagina & bum. I'm bed-bound so when I roll and they're washing my bum I asked them to tell me that they're about to touch me. To be honest on days when I'm not so comfortable with the staff on duty with me I don't do full personal care. I'd rather go without and I have a catheter so it's really important I'm clean. Some days I have to choose what is worse, having a clean pad on and people touching me, or feeling "clean".

Could you try explaining a little to the care co? You don't have to tell them about your history (although I have a little with some over time) but could you could try explaining to them that you find certain things hard and say no more? If they go to do something you are capable of doing tell them and if you're able to physically take the flannel from them.

If over time you get along with certain staff you can request to have those carers for personal care. I suggest that you speak to you social worker who is responsible for sorting your care package and also to whoever is in charge at your care company. Remember you don't have to stay with this specific care company but depending on its size you could decline certain staff. I would say that some of the carers I've had in the past that I found bossy to start with actually turned out to be some of my favorites. The ones that will do those extras like put up a pair of curtains my husband refuse to, visit me in hospital or pick up my favourite bath wash on offer in the supermarket.

It takes time to adjust to needing care and it's not always easy but you are in control of this and I know it doesn't feel like it. Use your voice, however hard, even if you have to write it down to share & to say no. You're entitled for things to be done a certain way & your needs matter even if you need help to achieve them. Staff that know me know this and that sometimes I need to take my time, as sometimes I just need to pause and breathe. I find talking, about anything whilst they do things I find difficult helps.

I'm sorry that you having to go through this. It's hard enough with this history without then to have people touch you when you don't want it and don't have the luxury to wait until later when you feel better because the carer has to leave. This is your home at the end of the day and these people are here to make your life better not worse and you deserve more than to be forced to have people that you're uncomfortable with in your home. A good care co should respect this and there are some wonderful carers out there who have shared their own abuse history & so made a real effort to make the whole scenario easier for me.

The only thing I will say is right now a shortage of carers and delays in discharging from hospital means in some ares clients have less options of care companies. I myself have been waiting months now to leave this place despite having a social housing property waiting for me all because of a lack of carers (I need 24hour care). I hope you can find something to help you, but well done to your daughter for sticking up for you. It's not always easy to advocate for yourself when your tired & not feeling great.

Also remember there are other ways of recieving care, I'd not using a company & using SS budget to pay carers you find yourself or with help. See www.gov.uk/apply-direct-payments

Regarding the dog, I can't advise but the care co can ask the dog be shut away for visits. I suspect the first shitty carer bitched to colleagues who are repeating her bullshit as verbatim.

PM me if you want to chat. Best wishes

itsgettingwierd · 21/09/2021 06:49

Oh wow that is horrendous. I'm so sorry you've been through this and I'm impressed you have been able to remain calm enough to write to succinctly.

Carers should care. They are there to assist you with any care needs you need. If they don't believe you are able to make those decisions yourself and refuse elements of care they are meant to report to their supervisor and not just assault you (which is what she did by batting for hand away to stop her touching your vagina).

Good luck getting it sorted.

UpshittsCreek · 21/09/2021 07:05

I'm so sorry you experienced this. Please complain and consider reporting this to the police and whatever body governs standards in the area (not in UK so unsure of what it is).
I've been trained to check for consent throughout personal care and explaining what I'm about to do. If someone is unable to give verbal consent I'd check for nonverbal cues and tell them before I touch them, especially near any private areas. One gentleman I did the same routine day in and day out ,but I would still check for consent and explain before I touched him. Just because he was happy the 99 other times didn't mean he would be happy on the 100th.
That's very basic stuff, it didn't make me a good carer, just one following basic standards and not breaking the law. You should not have been treated like that,it's truly disgusting behaviour. They don't deserve to have their jobs.

Bagelsandbrie · 21/09/2021 07:11

I’m sorry to read this. My heart really went out to you. This is not okay.

I had very similar experiences with my Mum and carers when she had terminal bowel cancer. They would be very pushy. She wasn’t able to cook her own food - practically bed bound- and they were supposed to make her a microwave meal but they’d lean over her rushing her to finish it within their 10 min slot so they could clean up - even though Mum and I had already said we were happy for them to leave it until I could come back the next morning to clean up (I have disabilities myself and my son is disabled so I was limited in how much I could be there). The last visit of the day was 6pm so they’d put her to bed and expect her to stay there until 8am the next morning. (She was only allocated 3 visits a day). Many times she’d try to use the commode or wet through her pads and I had to come out at 3/4am with my child to try and get her back into bed.

We also had issues with them not shutting the front door properly. She had a key safe which enabled them to get in and then they’d leave and leave the front door wide open …! Mum would ring me and id have to go round and shut it again. It left her in such a vulnerable position as she wasn’t able to shut it herself. She would shout out but they either wouldn’t hear or would pretend not to hear.

We complained of course. In the end in my mums situation we fought to have her placed in a hospice as the care just wasn’t enough but clearly that’s not comparable to your situation in that way - you just need proper care and support!!

I do think, however, you will need to ensure the dog is locked away when they come - if this is possible? Even dog people can find a barking dog quite unnerving if they’re not used to them.

DrSbaitso · 21/09/2021 07:14

My God. That's outrageous. Contact the Care Quality Commission.

RazorSharp · 21/09/2021 07:16

Good lord, can you change agency?

KittenKins · 21/09/2021 07:16

Of course your mobility and rehabilitation matters.

Some carers are lazy or short on time that they do the work via the quickest route possible. If it's going to take a while for a client to walk slowly with their walking frame to the bathroom they suggest doing personal care in the bedroom & do it for them. They feed them in the bedroom for the same reason and this is not acceptable, you don't want your home made into a small hospital unless necessary.

Can I suggest but you write out a list of what you need to achieve with each of your care visits? Then direct all new staff to this by placing a copy in your care plan if a copy is in the house & email another to the care co.

You could say something like "in the morning I want to take a shower, I need help to do X & Y, but I can do Z. Please use product W. Afterwards I need your help to use the stair lift to get downstairs using X mobility aid. I'm able to make my own breakfast but I need you to use the kettle because it's too heavy for me. Please open the lounge curtains ".

Can I also say that if you've not yet applied for PIP to do so as soon as possible. You need to write out your needs exactly like the above but you also need to point out what will happen if those needs are not met so for example you won't be able to shower or dress, you can't get downstairs, you won't be able to get access to food or get to the pharmacy to collect medication or rush to your front door for the postman. Those kind of basic things.

I'm sorry that I've babbled on so much.

I just want to say that your needs DO matter & please, give your dog a big hug.

Diceychoice · 21/09/2021 07:45

I'm sorry this happened to you, this is what social care has become, and it's not good enough, and the only way to change anything is to complain. Unfortunately in situations like this, the likely outcome is that the carers will be pulled (not saying they shouldn't) and they'll take the full accountability for it when it's failure in the agency that have led to this - lack of time, training, communication and supervision. Those things won't change until those companies are held to account over those failings as well as the carers for theirs.
I've worked with some shocking carers over the years and reported - they're still working, just somewhere else, and no training or supervision put in place.
Complain to the CQC, your local council safeguarding, your local gp could probably give you the details, or any HCP you come into contact with.

If they are that traumatised by dogs, the agency shouldn't be sending them anywhere near the house. There is a clear informed choice to be made on whether an individual carer is sent to the OP's house.

With a well published shortage of carers, it's not as simple as that I'm afraid, what if there aren't any carers available that are willing to be around a dog? The easiest compromise is to remove the dog temporarily from the situation so no carer comes across it.

It can't be compared with being assaulted.

No, it can't, but it's a potential barrier to the OP recieving care which is fairly simple to overcome.

Doubleraspberry · 21/09/2021 08:41

@Diceychoice

I'm sorry this happened to you, this is what social care has become, and it's not good enough, and the only way to change anything is to complain. Unfortunately in situations like this, the likely outcome is that the carers will be pulled (not saying they shouldn't) and they'll take the full accountability for it when it's failure in the agency that have led to this - lack of time, training, communication and supervision. Those things won't change until those companies are held to account over those failings as well as the carers for theirs. I've worked with some shocking carers over the years and reported - they're still working, just somewhere else, and no training or supervision put in place. Complain to the CQC, your local council safeguarding, your local gp could probably give you the details, or any HCP you come into contact with.

If they are that traumatised by dogs, the agency shouldn't be sending them anywhere near the house. There is a clear informed choice to be made on whether an individual carer is sent to the OP's house.

With a well published shortage of carers, it's not as simple as that I'm afraid, what if there aren't any carers available that are willing to be around a dog? The easiest compromise is to remove the dog temporarily from the situation so no carer comes across it.

It can't be compared with being assaulted.

No, it can't, but it's a potential barrier to the OP recieving care which is fairly simple to overcome.

The number of people as traumatised by the presence of a dog as the OP is by sexual assault is not great though. The carer who assaulted her was a dog lover apparently. I’m sure it’s better for all if the dog can be kept away during visits but claiming that enough carers are literally traumatised by dogs to be a factor is not on. Clearly this agency is bad, with consideration not given to staff or clients, but most people nervous of dogs are not equally traumatised by them as someone with experience of sexual assault.

An experience that is NOT the issue here either. It doesn’t matter whether someone has a history of assault or not in principle because NO ONE should be assaulted by a carer, and that is what happened here. That isn’t OK whatever the personal history.

CoronaPeroni · 21/09/2021 09:24

It's appalling and also what the elderly put up with, thinking that if they cause a fuss it will be worse for them. My mum was wiped so hard that she bled and when she asked a carer to be more gentle and in tears they told her it was fine. Bed bound and no care from 6.00pm (night call) and 10.30am ( breakfast call) she was told to poo in her pants if she needed. Then she would be lying in it until someone turned up hours later. So degrading.

Op, can you pay for your own care? It doesn't always work but you are in charge instead of a basic list of needs being given by social services to the care agency. What you are experiencing is abuse and leaving you very vulnerable. The only thing I would say is the dog needs shutting away. And tell the agency this as it sounds like the dog's reputation has been circulated and the staff are agitated before they've even started their routine. Best of luck.

Diceychoice · 21/09/2021 15:54

The number of people as traumatised by the presence of a dog as the OP is by sexual assault is not great though. The carer who assaulted her was a dog lover apparently. I’m sure it’s better for all if the dog can be kept away during visits but claiming that enough carers are literally traumatised by dogs to be a factor is not on. Clearly this agency is bad, with consideration not given to staff or clients, but most people nervous of dogs are not equally traumatised by them as someone with experience of sexual assault.

These are two separate issues, the presence of the dog and the appalling care that OP received, especially in light of her history.
WRT the dog, the agency should never have promised to provide a dog friendly carer if quite obviously, they can't each time. To that end the OP should have been made aware that she may be assigned a carer that is not ok with dogs and asked right from the outset that if that happens, because no carer ok with dogs is available, can the dog be somewhere else for the duration of the call. Who's trauma trump's who's is not a concern here, the OP having her care needs met is, and if due to a shortage of staff (which is well published nationwide) a carer can be provided, but may not be comfortable with the dog present, then this should have been communicated to the carer and the OP and a solution found before the carer even set off. That's the agency at fault and they have failed both staff and OP on that score. You can say 'its not on' till the cows come home, it's not going to change the situation and someone who is uncomfortable around dogs is not going to give the best care to OP, and as OP was promised a dog friendly carer, until the carers turned up and reacted the way they did, she was unaware there was a potential problem.
I think the carers reacted badly to the situation, they absolutely shouldn't have gone about it the way they did. Faced with that situation as a carer I probably would have spoken to the OP "I'm sorry, I'm not that good with dogs and I wasn't aware one was here, would it be possible to put her in a separate room while I come in and help you please?"
My level of discomfort shouldn't be compared to OPs there, because they're two separate issues, and it shouldn't be a case of a good carer who doesn't like dogs or a bad one who does, they should all be good and a solution found if the carer who's available doesn't like dogs.

An experience that is NOT the issue here either. It doesn’t matter whether someone has a history of assault or not in principle because NO ONE should be assaulted by a carer, and that is what happened here. That isn’t OK whatever the personal history.

I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly, but do you think I'm saying it's Ok for the OP to be assaulted by a carer because the carer is scared of dogs? Because I'm absolutely not.
As I said above, they are two linked, but separate issues.
The care was abhorrent and appalling, either the care plan wasn't available to be read, incomplete, or wrong or it wasn't read at all. Regardless, the carer should have been led by the OP to what needs she needed meeting and how she preferred that to be done, because that's how you're supposed to provide care, the OPs wishes should override any care plan anyway, unless it's dangerous or detrimental - it's how you provide person centred care.
The OP has been articulate here, so there's no reason to assume that she couldn't communicate her needs to the carer herself, in fact the OP says she protested certain things and informed the carer she prefers intimate wipes rather than shower gel for example, and the carer went ahead and did it anyway. That's lack of training and supervision, to ensure the carer is working to the standards required (person centred care) and that they stay at that level. The carer needs to answer for that, and so do the agency.

Doubleraspberry · 21/09/2021 16:09

I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly, but do you think I'm saying it's Ok for the OP to be assaulted by a carer because the carer is scared of dogs? Because I'm absolutely not.

No, I’m not, and my early morning posting isn’t articulate. I was saying that it shouldn’t matter whether the care agency knows that the OP has a history of sexual assault as no one should be assaulted as she was by this carer, and she shouldn’t need to share that information with them to ensure that.

The dog issue is separate and you are fighting someone else’s battle here as my original post was in response to a different poster who appeared to be playing trauma Top Trumps. I agreed with you that the agency wasn’t great and that it would be best for everyone if the dog were kept away when carers visited.

Diceychoice · 21/09/2021 16:51

@Doubleraspberry

I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly, but do you think I'm saying it's Ok for the OP to be assaulted by a carer because the carer is scared of dogs? Because I'm absolutely not.

No, I’m not, and my early morning posting isn’t articulate. I was saying that it shouldn’t matter whether the care agency knows that the OP has a history of sexual assault as no one should be assaulted as she was by this carer, and she shouldn’t need to share that information with them to ensure that.

The dog issue is separate and you are fighting someone else’s battle here as my original post was in response to a different poster who appeared to be playing trauma Top Trumps. I agreed with you that the agency wasn’t great and that it would be best for everyone if the dog were kept away when carers visited.

I'm not really fighting any battle here, I was getting involved in a conversation about a subject I have insight into, on a public forum. I responded to your comment about not sending carers that aren't ok with dogs because I can absolutely see how that situation could have arisen with the way social care is so short of workers at the moment.

Regardless, please, please report OP, because you shouldn't have to have care delivered like you did, there are good agencies and care workers out there - is there a way you can get personal recommendations for other agencies should you need to continue using an agency? Do you know anyone or are you a member of any groups that may have people on there who would have personal experience of agencies near you?

Doubleraspberry · 21/09/2021 17:08

My comment wasn’t about people who are scared of dogs though. It was about people who are as traumatised about dogs as the OP is about a history of sexual assault. So you’re arguing on a point I wasn’t making.

RazorSharp · 21/09/2021 20:18

@Doubleraspberry

My comment wasn’t about people who are scared of dogs though. It was about people who are as traumatised about dogs as the OP is about a history of sexual assault. So you’re arguing on a point I wasn’t making.
I'm sorry but I do not believe that as many people in the world are as traumatised of dogs as they are of sexual assault.

I'm not sure the statistics would stack
Up. Sadly,

WholeoftheMoon55 · 21/09/2021 20:40

@HoundofHades

I have name-changed for this, for fairly obvious reasons.

Let me preface this by saying the following: I am 45 years old, a survivor of CSA and rape, and I am disabled. I have a degenerative brain condition which, until fairly recently, was pretty much invisible – however, following an admission to hospital 3 months ago, my mobility is now reliant on aids. I walk with crutches and have had to have a stair lift installed, because I lack the strength to safely haul myself anywhere. I still have full mental capacity.

After my release from hospital, I reluctantly agreed to have a team of carers enter my home. I live with my teenage son and adult daughter (who has severe MH problems, herself)... and I have a dog. I'm not one of these people who believe that their dog lacks the ability to be aggressive – whilst she's friendly and thrives on social interactions, at the end of the day she is an animal. She is also a rescue dog, whom I've worked hard with to train and do everything in my power to stop her from perhaps one day biting someone. She is extremely attached to me. She also barks to alert me to things (people entering/leaving our home being one of them) and I am alert to her body language at all times.

The team who came into my home for the first 8 weeks were the “rapid response” carers. I appreciate how lucky I was that my request for no male carers be assigned during this period was respected, and that the ladies were all “dog people” (my dog revelled in this, because she had 4 new “friends”!). These carers also listened to me, and encouraged me to start regaining my independence – when they last saw me, I was being helped to independently use the stair lift and go downstairs for a few hours during the day, having been cooped up in my bedroom with only the odd hobble along the landing to the bathroom every now and then. They also helped me to strip-wash, change my lower half of clothing (I struggle to put my legs into trousers/put socks on or off) and wash my hair over the sink. But the bits I can clean? I was allowed to. They understood that I'm embarrassed by “needing” carers at all (it's a learning curve) and that my independence is very important to me.

On Friday, I had an assessment with the agency of carers who were going to take over from the “rapid response” team, with the view to having one carer coming in twice a day to help me on my journey to regain as much independence as I can, and assist me with using the stair lift to go downstairs/back upstairs with a hot drink in the late afternoon. The supervisor who came out was almost ridiculously enamoured with my “sweetheart”of a dog, and agreed my parameters of the assigned carer being “dog friendly” and not treating me like I'm incapable of doing absolutely anything for myself. I explained that I feel almost humiliated by even needing a carer at all, still, and that my condition is severely aggravated by stress (it triggers flare-ups which may put me back in hospital). I also made it very clear that I don't require help with medication(s) and that my children help me prepare the evening meals - the supervisor said that they understood “completely”. All well and good, I thought, and agreed to “Julia” starting on Saturday morning...

Since then, the following has happened:

Saturday - “Cheryl” arrived instead of “Julia”. Used the key safe to open the front door and shout 'hello' repeatedly as she very obviously stood in the doorway – which caused my dog to bark more than she usually would from the top of the stairs where (and this is important) I could see her the whole time. Her tail was wagging and she kept looking to me for reassurance, because this new carer was confusing her. After a few minutes, my dog gave up and returned to lie on the bottom of my bed. At this point, “Cheryl” marched into my bedroom and started to scream at me, aggressively, about my “nasty”, “vicious”, “aggressive” dog. I'm not someone who intimidates easily but I genuinely felt as though she were about to hit me. She then demanded my Nomad as she “had” to give me my meds – and got even angrier with me when I said that (a) I didn't need help with them and (b) had taken them a few hours prior. At this point, my daughter appeared from her bedroom and very politely asked her to leave. What was my “aggressive” dog doing whilst this was going on? Lying on the bottom of my bed looking bewildered. “Cheryl” flounced from the house and I called the agency to pretty much say “WTAF?!” - I was assured that it was a mix-up/miscommunication and they'd send someone else out on Sunday. No afternoon visit as “too short notice”, so I had to have a partial wash under my own devices/remain upstairs (both children were out with friends from just after “Cheryl”'s departure until late evening). Fair enough, I thought; these things happen...
Yesterday (Sunday), there was a knock on the front door which generated a few barks from my dog and my daughter thinking it was her parcel being delivered. She opened the door, having told the dog to wait upstairs (which she did) – and saw “Carer #2” retreating up the road. From my bedroom at the back of the house, I could hear this woman yelling about how my dog is “angry” and “vicious” and she was going to call the agency and tell them to stop “all care” as a result. I (accurately) concluded that “C#2” doesn't like/is frightened of dogs and called the agency myself. I spoke to someone who sounded as though she couldn't give a flying fuck, and said that she would “see what [she] could do about [today]'s visit”. Day two of limited strip-wash and confinement upstairs. I spent the day alternating between being grateful the carer didn't know anything about the key safe – and wondering what would have happened if my daughter wasn't home to immediately open the door...? Obviously, I would have been without care, regardless, as – right now – I am unable to get to the door and answer it safely.

Which brings me to today. “Mary” arrived and, luckily, is a dog-person. However, “Mary” also spent time berating “the dark lady” who is frightened of dogs and has subsequently labelled mine as “extremely aggressive” on my file with the agency – because she barked in excitement at a knock on the door! I got the impression that “Mary” doesn't like “#2” because of her skin colour... which sits very uneasily with me. My daughter is biracial. However, by this point, I was desperate for a hair wash and help with cleaning the bits I struggle to reach... I explained my needs very clearly – particularly that I use pH friendly feminine wipes and that I clean that part of my lower half myself...

Well, perhaps needless to say, “Mary” took it upon herself to not give me any choice in the matter. Subsequently, in spite of my verbal protests at the time, not only was shower gel infused water on a sodden flannel rubbed all over and into my vaginal area... she smacked my hand away from trying to stop her, as though I were a naughty child. Luckily, my son wasn't here (he'd left for college before she arrived) but my daughter – who is working remotely right now – stepped onto the landing to find her mother nakedly vulnerable and on full display, due to “Mary” having decided to open the bathroom door because my dog – picking up on my distress – was whining and scratching to be let in! “Mary” was asked to leave, and my daughter had to help me get dry and dressed once more.

I feel violated. My stress levels are through the roof. I absolutely do not want any more “care” from this seemingly incompetent agency, and am about to complain... but AIBU for wanting to complain to Adult Social Care, who employed them to come into my home, about them? I can't help but wonder how many elderly clients are being abused/violated in the same way as I've been over the last few days – and how many have been left without care because, despite the agency being told about dogs living at the address, they've sent people who are frightened of/by dogs out to them? How many survivors of sexual assaults have been left feeling as violated as I do right now (2 hours later, and I'm still shaking)? Yes, I know that things are stretched to near breaking point, but I also know that this level of “care” simply isn't good enough – especially as I want to regain as much independence/quality of life as I possibly can, was on the road to so doing, but know that this agency's staff aren't interested in helping me to do so. They'd be happier if I'd agree to lying immobile in bed all day/every day for the rest of who knows how long! “Mary” announced as soon as she set foot in my bedroom today that I “need” a fridge, a table, a kettle for hot drinks in here. Which no; I don't – because I have a fully functional kitchen downstairs! That place which I was being encouraged to spend time in by the “rapid response” carers only last week! The more stressed I am, the less likely to recover I am – and despite my children's offers to care for me... I don't want them to. That'd humiliate me far more than strangers doing it.

If anyone's gotten this far... any advice would truly be gratefully received right now. I will be complaining – but I do need to calm down slightly before doing so. My daughter's offered to do so on my behalf, but she's furious and it wouldn't end well, not to mention the fact that I'm worried about her own MH suffering if she causes a complete withdrawal of care for me.

This is utterly appalling. In the first instance I would make a complaint to the agency and to the CQC. I would then contact Social Services and ask them to contact another care provider. This is unacceptable and I am so so sorry you've been put through this
DamnUserName21 · 21/09/2021 20:48

I'd apply for independent living payment, DLA or PIP and source my own private carer.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/09/2021 20:52

@DamnUserName21. I would have thought the OP would already be in receipt of PIP at some level, given the severity of her condition. DLA is no longer an option past the age of 16, and the independent living fund was closed to new applications in 2015.