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AIBU?

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A hill Im willing to die on. A saying that needs to end.

142 replies

CurlyWurly321 · 19/09/2021 14:54

AIBU?

OP posts:
TooWicked · 19/09/2021 15:39

I don’t mind the “hill I’m willing to die on”

I’d be happy to never see or hear “read the room” ever again.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 19/09/2021 15:39

It's an expression that seems to be used a lot recently.

Macncheeseballs · 19/09/2021 15:40

I don't understand people getting upset about phrases, they're just words

KaptainKaveman · 19/09/2021 15:43

It isn't any different from 'C'est la vie' is it?

Clichés have their function.

girlmom21 · 19/09/2021 15:43

@Macncheeseballs

I don't understand people getting upset about phrases, they're just words
All of these posts are 'just words', so why bother interacting with any of them if you don't think they hold any importance?

I hate these completely dismissive responses that don't contribute anything to the conversation.

52andblue · 19/09/2021 15:44

@AGreenerShadeofKale

Keep up the pressure on someone you find disagreeable to get the desired results. It was favoured for a while by Nicola Sturgeon, and made me wince every time, but I've heard others use it.

It has the definite air of religious persecution.

I've always thought of it quite literally. Christ died on a Hill (Calvary). So, it is something you feel strongly enough about that you would 'die' rather than change your stance upon it (like Christ was given the chance but chose to die for our sins). But maybe I am quite wrong and it has nothing to do with that?
AGreenerShadeofKale · 19/09/2021 15:45

That's quite likely.

Plumtree391 · 19/09/2021 15:45

@Sparklingbrook

Yes, i don't really get it. Is it a bit PA? Not sure but I've never used the expression and never heard it except on here.

My own least favourites are

'It is what it is'
and
'You do you'

I've never come across 'you do you', I presume it means 'You do what you think/want/yourway'.

'It is what it is' has been around for years and i think it often sums things up perfectly.

PilatesPeach · 19/09/2021 15:45

Did you read this expression on another thread? The OP on another active thread used this when discussing her DP. Can't say it bothers me. Might not use the saying myself but live and let live. It is just not a big deal in the scheme of things that are big deals in life, well not to me.

ilkleymoorbartat · 19/09/2021 15:45

I actually think it's a really good saying. Although I use it more as "it's not a hill I'm willing to die on".

Sparklingbrook · 19/09/2021 15:46

@Rainbowheart1

What does it mean?

Does it mean your willing to die on that hill because you believe it so much?

Yes , basically. You feel so strongly about something you would die on a hill over it. Confused
Waspsarearseholes · 19/09/2021 15:46

My friend used to use, 'There we are then' rather a lot and I found out it's a way of calling the person you're arguing with a 'twat'.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 19/09/2021 15:47

talking ten to the dozen means talking really quickly

That makes no sense though! Or at least not to me, who grew up with the phrase "talking nineteen to the dozen". Ten to the dozen wouldn't be nearly as fast...

Macncheeseballs · 19/09/2021 15:47

Girlmom, well isn't the op also being dismissive? This is a public forum, we are all allowed to contribute

girlmom21 · 19/09/2021 15:48

@Plumtree391 'you do you' is generally used when someone wants to put their two pence worth in but knows the person they're talking to won't listen, for example when an OP asks if they're unreasonable and then proceeds to argue with every person who says they are.

They'll say "I personally don't think you should keep your child off school for x, y and z reasons, but you do you."

HideousKinky · 19/09/2021 15:48

I would only ever say something isn't a hill I'm willing to die on, as a way of conveying a sense of perspective about it.

"Living my best life" makes me shudder - always sounds so unbearably smug

Sparklingbrook · 19/09/2021 15:48

I've never come across 'you do you', I presume it means 'You do what you think/want/yourway'

At one point it was THE phrase to use on MN when you wanted to say 'do what you like. I disagree but don't actually give a shit ultimately'.

'It is what it is' is not even worth saying.

AGreenerShadeofKale · 19/09/2021 15:48

52andblue a quick internet search comes up with the war metaphor: it's the high ground you decide to defend to the last.

Waspsarearseholes · 19/09/2021 15:48

@52andblue - I think that poster was referring to the phrase 'holding someone's feet to the flames'. Apologies if I've got that wrong.

Cryalot2 · 19/09/2021 15:50

But do you not think....?
I hate it.

AGreenerShadeofKale · 19/09/2021 15:51

I've heard twenty to the dozen too.
Ten sounds like you'd be going slow!

TellingBone · 19/09/2021 15:55

Yes, nineteen to the dozen.

Similarly, 'would be cheap at half the price' is often used. The 'correct' phrase is, 'would be cheap at twice the price'. Logic.

52andblue · 19/09/2021 15:55

@AGreenerShadeofKale

52andblue a quick internet search comes up with the war metaphor: it's the high ground you decide to defend to the last.
Ah, yes that works. (did say my own interpretation might be wrong: both make sense to me) And yes, holding feet to flames has a distinctly Inquisition flavour too.
Congressdingo · 19/09/2021 15:57

@Rainbowheart1

What does it mean?

Does it mean your willing to die on that hill because you believe it so much?

Its from military terminology. Wars were fought and lots of men would die taking a hill position from the other side, so whoever wanted that hill had to be sure it was actually worthwhile to lose so many soldiers for.

So if there is something you feel passionately enough about, you might say this.
There are some things I do feel this passionately about and I say this occassionally.

MotherOfGodHoulYerWhisht · 19/09/2021 15:58

@Waspsarearseholes

My friend used to use, 'There we are then' rather a lot and I found out it's a way of calling the person you're arguing with a 'twat'.
Ha ha love this. I need to remember it as a little act of rebellion towards my (twat of a) boss! Grin
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