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To Think DD Should Ask...

84 replies

SingingInTheShithouse · 18/09/2021 16:20

Before taking food to cook for herself?

Genuine AIBU as her attitude towards me stinks in general & I'm not sure if I'm reacting to that more so.

She's almost 19, at college & we are more than happy to feed her, but I just think she needs to ask before helping herself to items I might already have ear marked for meals.

Just watched her pick up a chunk of ginger root, to which I asked her if she could use the dry spice, as I bought that for a reason... cue angry hissy fit, asking how much she needed as maybe I could spare a little, had her scream hysterically & throw the ginger across the kitchen & a huge passive aggressive outburst about how she's been spoken to like dirt for feeding herself & made to feel unwelcome... erm nope, that didn't just happen Confused

Surely it's just common sense & good manners to ask. She always used to, but suddenly feels she doesn't need too Confused

Thank you

OP posts:
Creamsoda77 · 18/09/2021 17:46

No this is the only ginger stealing thread I can find...............i think its unreasonable to even mention it and ask if she can use the dry, I don't get it, sorry , bigger battles to fight |!

RobertaFirmino · 18/09/2021 17:48

@Creamsoda77

I also think you as the parent here have an issue too, to get so wound up over some ginger .
Bollocks, the ginger is just the straw that broke the camels back. This is to do with a damn sight more than a rhizome.
TorringtonDean · 18/09/2021 17:48

There is something else going on with her aside from the ginger. Is everything OK at college?

ChargingBuck · 18/09/2021 17:50

@Creamsoda77

I also think you as the parent here have an issue too, to get so wound up over some ginger .
How can you fail to perceive that OP isn't wound up over ginger, but about her DD's horrible attitude & temper tantrum?
Hdieonfjc · 18/09/2021 17:52

When I was this age if there was something my mum didn't want me to eat she would say "don't eat the sausages they are for tea on thursday" for example. I think it's a but weird to make her ask everytime she wants to eat something equally I think it good manners to ask before eating the last of anything so I'm on the fence. Not very helpful sorry

ChargingBuck · 18/09/2021 17:53

@RobertaFirmino
This is to do with a damn sight more than a rhizome.

Grin Grin Grin

BrilliantBetty · 18/09/2021 18:12

Easier just to say what she shouldn't use.
Great that she is keen to prepare healthy meals for herself... i'd be happy.

BananaPB · 18/09/2021 19:13

She should check or come up with a list for you to buy at the supermarket imo. I have kids that age and they know that if they ask me to add something to my food shopping, it will be bought for them but they need to think about what to buy ahead of time like they presumably do at uni.

BananaPB · 18/09/2021 19:18

I'm surprised by some of these answers tbh.

I've seen posts where teens/husbands used all the milk in the morning so mum couldn't have her daily cup of coffee with a dribble of milk and those posters generally get sympathy.

Bluntness100 · 18/09/2021 19:22

You don’t seem to perceive it as her home anymore it’s more like you have her their grudgingly. So grudgingly you don’t even want her having a bit of ginger, I’m sure you could have easily shared and said oh can you leave some for me.

Maybe your relationship isn’t good because you also don’t treat her very well.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 18/09/2021 19:22

Her reaction wasn’t good but no we don’t ask for permission before eating food or snacks as it would feel strange them having to ask in their own home.

SingingInTheShithouse · 18/09/2021 19:52

Yikes 😳 that got busy quick. My internet net was up & down, so I couldn't come back any sooner, but still didn't expect so many replies.

Excuse my not replying to individuals, it's been a stressful day I'm mostly looking at you Virgin media for messing up our email & TV when supposedly fixing cables to improve tge serviceHmm migraine creeping on as a result.

To answer a few points...

No it's not the actual ginger but her bad attitude & not asking when she would normally ask if it's okay to use the kitchen to cook & if she spots any extra ingredients she'd like to use. We've never asked that if her, though would have if needed. We didn't need to. She has form for using way too much of ingredients she doesn't know well & ruining her meals when she's experimenting, as she clearly was today. We've had to talk to about that before so she knows asking about extra ingredients.

I didn't realise until later what she was actually cooking. Pasta in tomato sauce with red onions & garlic... I I hadn't stepped in over the fresh ginger, she would have grated, probably a lot of it, it into her pasta sauce 🤢

Yes she does help herself to any basics, the only rules are that she doesn't use the last of anything without asking first & that she writes it on our shopping list whiteboard, so we can replace it. So I'm hardly a good Nazi 😂

No steak in the house, non of us eat meat😂 & a large chunk of fresh ginger is probably our equivalent as vegetarians😂. Like many of you we have the dried, frozen & tinned basics in & she can help herself to anything.

Probably slightly more annoying as I'd bought the ginger to make a pickle mix so that we can make the Itsu dragon rolls that she lovesHmm, though I certainly didn't think that until she kicked off & would have given her a little, though I think it was a blessing that she refused🥴

Are there issues with food ... yes, but due to health issues, it's not as straightforward as my being controlling. I've had to back right off this last year or so as Ive realised that she's kicking back at anything she thinks I want her to do, so I pretend not to care. Not unless she comes to me for help with the symptoms that eating badly for her medical conditions causes & hope she's sense from that happening. If that makes sense. Though it's not working well so far, there's little else we can do🥴 Unfortunately, despite my backing off, she still responds to me often as if I'm still "on her back" trying to coax her not to make herself ill. Not sure what I can do about that but Sad

To those of you saying get to what's going on behind it...thank you for the reminder 🙏 it's hard sometimes when they are in your face telling you you're "mental" to remember it's a sign of something more going on.

DH has been on the case & she's owned up to him that she's missed her B12 treatment with our GP. She lied to me a week ago that she had it in hand. Looking back she was evasive, but definitely gave me the impression that she'd had it done 😏
When her B12 is low, amongst a lot of other things, it badly affects her mood 🤦‍♀️ it also makes her exhausted & heightens her pain, causes walking trouble etc that makes her feel frustrated & angry that she's missing out 😞 DH has now got her to make an appointment & take some of the other supplements she needs🙏. She rarely kicks off at him the way she does at me, so we've learnt to let him talk to her

On top of that she's very upset that a lot of her friends are going off to Uni. She saw off one of her best friends to Cardiff last night & it's her birthday very soon & DH thinks from something she said that it's just dawned on her she's won't have many friends to celebrate with & she's had a lot of friendship issues when younger, so she really values her close it small friendship groups now.

She's still in a mood with me & is refusing to apologise though. So I've told her that her BF can't stay her tonight as she had planned, not until she does apologise for the way she spoke to me. As as much as I can see that she is struggling, I have to draw the line somewhere. She's a stubborn mare, so is now going to her BFs parents house instead... really cutting her nose off to spite her face as we are in town where they were intending to go out & his parents are out in the sticks 🤦‍♀️ it'll give her space to cool off & he's lovely, so he might even talk some sense into her🤞 & I'll get some peace from her goadiness, which has been getting worse over the last couple of weeks

Thanks everyone. I hope I've covered everything 🤞

OP posts:
Florasteddy · 18/09/2021 19:55

@ChargingBuck

you can't really expect her to check with you about every ingredient she uses. It's her home!

It's every other family member's home too, @Londonlivingg - & DD not bothering to check about even small ingredients could mean that she blows the meal plan for everyone else.

It's not exactly a big ask, to require somebody to be considerate about other people's needs before helping themselves. In fact it's a valuable life skill, & OP should insist her DD learns it.

Quite! If they want to be treated like adults they need to behave like one
ShaneTheThird · 18/09/2021 20:01

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

Her reaction wasn’t good but no we don’t ask for permission before eating food or snacks as it would feel strange them having to ask in their own home.
It's not snacks though. It's something that was very obviously purchased with dinner in mind.
SingingInTheShithouse · 18/09/2021 20:01

Oh & as for preparing healthy meals for herself... I am over the moon when she does, but given her health condition & it's affect on her gut, thats unfortunately not what she's doing... I was majorly impressed that she actually made a pasta sauce, usually it's just pasta & half a large block of cheese, or packet noodles 🥴

OP posts:
lljkk · 18/09/2021 20:21

We don't meal plan.
We decide what (breakfast for me, too) lunch or supper to eat based on what we have that needs eating soonest. I suppose we have to keep an eye on bread or milk supplies.. but the corner shop is open 6am-11pm anyway.

I'm never sure how it works in a house where people have 'plans' for what is to be served at each meal... and for who. As in, some or much or the food in the house already has a target destination at target time/date. Does each house hold member have to ask before taking a piece of bread, a cup of milk, some porridge, a banana? It seems so stressful. What if you're hungry and food-tracking-person isn't home to ask or answering their phone?

Sometimes on holiday in self-catering accommodation we have to plan the food, and then talk to everyone, I suppose. Special circumstances.

SingingInTheShithouse · 19/09/2021 14:30

I'm never sure how it works in a house where people have 'plans' for what is to be served at each meal... and for who. As in, some or much or the food in the house already has a target destination at target time/date. Does each house hold member have to ask before taking a piece of bread, a cup of milk, some porridge, a banana? It seems so stressful. What if you're hungry and food-tracking-person isn't home to ask or answering their phone?

That's pretty thoughtless to the many many families struggling below the bread line. They don't have a choice.

That said though, I suspect most of us don't meal plan in that way. Here it's a certain lot of basics & veg that we use regularly, that will make an array of meals, so we might have planned the shopping around being flexible, but not the actual meals if that makes sense

The fresh ginger was an extra buy for a specific reason

OP posts:
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/09/2021 14:46

How can op possibly meal plan if other adults can just come and take all of an ingredient? Especially something like fresh ginger that is perhaps not always used or present in the fridge, but when it’s needed it’s needed.

Sounds like she was being very spoilt and you we tiptoeing around her as it was!

diddl · 19/09/2021 15:19

"I'm never sure how it works in a house where people have 'plans' for what is to be served at each meal

I think a lot of people just plan the main cooked meal, so it would probably be obvious what is needed for this.

Then there's stuff for breakfast & a light meal that (age dependent) people just help themselves to.

So there's always for example breakfast cereal, bread, eggs cheese, fruit that can just be used as & when by anyone.

AbandonedCharacter · 19/09/2021 15:29

Well it's easy to spot the posters who don't have tight food budgets!

AbandonedCharacter · 19/09/2021 15:29

"That's pretty thoughtless to the many many families struggling below the bread line. They don't have a choice".

Exactly!

Macncheeseballs · 19/09/2021 15:57

But if op had been more relaxed about a piece of ginger, none of it would have happened

AbandonedCharacter · 19/09/2021 16:23

"Surely it's just common sense & good manners to ask. She always used to, but suddenly feels she doesn't need too".

And none of it would have happened if her daughter had asked as she used to. OP certainly did not deserve the reaction she got for asking her 19 year old daughter not to use one ingredient.

sandgrown · 19/09/2021 16:39

My SIL used to pride herself on her well stocked fridge and freezer . Her married daughters used to come round and helped themselves to loads of good to take home . They actually talked of “going shopping “ at mums and would complain if she didn’t have certain things ! I used to be shocked at their cheek and they were not struggling financially. We were on a tight budget growing up so I always asked before taking anything .

diddl · 19/09/2021 16:48

"The fresh ginger was an extra buy for a specific reason"

I think it's that that makes it the reason that she should have asked, & if told yes, make sure that she left enough so that it could be used for what it was bought for.