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Husband feels like a housemate....

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coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 16:19

I put in AIBU topic i couldn't find a topic on relationships. Anyway, thanks to anyone who reads as I really need to just rant. And aibu to be stressing?

My husband and I got together in 2013 on a dating app. We met, he wasn't my type at all. Many of things I valued (hard working, ambitious, successful, grounded) suddenly seemed irrelevant and I was enamoured by his flirtatious and very winning and strong personality (he is more 'spur of the moment', excitable, well travelled, fun, the life and soul of the party who everyone loves type who doesn't believe in planning or saving etc). At the time I KNEW he was the 'risk' as opposed to finding a more sensible option, I was cautious and worried but somehow allowed myself to swept up in the excitement and he has a great family and heaps of close friends who I am very close to and I loved that. I admit fully that I was keen to settle down and really wanted to find someone. Eeak. Makes me feel stressed just admitting thatBlush

So I committed, he had won me over with endless surprises, outings, declarations of love. I knew his values were so so different to mine but I was convinced thrrr was enough to make it work and you guessed it, it's all come to a head.

When we moved in together in 2016 I was shocked at the amount of wild nights he would go on, coming in at 4am whilst I had to get up for work (professional career with lots of very serious responsibility). It quickly became clear that he wasn't going to stop the nights out (innocent boys fun nights with beer and the like, I'm not suggesting he has ever been unfaithful). He would do sports for 5 hours on the weekend and spend hours gaming. Really putting not much effort into the relationship and definitely not much of a talker, or one for affection, intimacy, romance of any kind. We started to argue more as we got less and less close. I was begging for some attention and time! However, I wanted to get married and wanted a family as a mid 30s woman. He proposed, to please me I guess? I don't think he would have otherwise. I'm not entirely sure how we managed to make it that far. We used to argue like cat and dog. We got engaged, bought a house (against his will because buying a house is too much of a responsibility in his words) and many times we 'almost' broke up. A particularly fun argument was the night we got engaged where he told me to fuck off because I suggested he didn't drink the fifth whisky. Who am I to say who was right or wrong but as you can see, our values were never in tune. All the while though I just kept going, I adore his family and sidelined all the rest.

We now have children. He adores them, is the ultimate fun dad when he cba!! However he no time for me, we don't have any connection whatsoever, no intimacy, barely chat, we argue when the kids aren't around and I've become a horrid version of myself - the nagging wife. His sports still happens for half a day a weekend, he socialises (however, much much more calmly now) and still would spend every spare minute gaming if he could. We are arguing more than ever. I hate it. I wish he was more driven, more ambitious, more pro active with the house, gave me the time I wish I deserved and which I am pretty certain would help to reconnect us, but I genuinely am not sure there ever was one. I think I only have myself to blame. I knew who I was marrying and of course he hasn't changed! I now am just in a situation where I'm feeling lonely and resentful of all the time he spends doing things he would rather do than spend time with me. I'm annoyed at our finances and his resentment at me being on maternity leave (which he says regularly). I'm annoyed he 'wants the kids in bed' for when he gets home so HE can have his evenings free and how he criticises my parenting when they are up slightly later, I'm annoyed we can't afford holidays yet he goes for weekends away camping with mates and has a football season ticket, I hate his love for gaming and the nee consoles that appear, I want to move house but the diy on our current place will never get done unless I do it whilst with the children buzzing around my feet. He puts me down and just feels like a stranger. I only gave birth a few months ago and it's endlessly been that HE feels suffocated, HE needs time to himself, HE needs his weekends to do his own thing because he's not on maternity leave having all the time to 'swan around'. He blames me constantly for any slight negative - the house is messy, he's tired or grumpy because of me, why do I do xyz, he needs the living room
For the 100th night in a row to have time to himself gaming. He now just seems to hate me for asking him to step up his responsibility, and he doesn't want to. It's crunch point. I don't see it ever changing. What next? I know it's my own fault.

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LittleOwl153 · 16/09/2021 16:24

Get rid. There is little else you can do. And it sounds like he won't bother wanting contact with the kids either if he just wants them in bed. He can play Disney dad eow!

Wilkolampshade · 16/09/2021 16:25

Oh OP. That's tough and sad. You just aren't aligned at all atm, if you ever were.
I know you have a small baby still, but are you still intimate in any way with each other?

coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 16:26

Well done to anyone who got to the end of that. I should add that he isn't a terrible person, he does all the cooking for us and the weekly shop - which both win lots of points for me. He says he is more of a doer than a talker and would do things if I asked (I have asked for more help with the house and he said he's more of a spur of the moment person who will do things on a whim when he fancies - so not helpful). Anyway, I wanted to just add that he isn't awful. We just don't get on.

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coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 16:28

@Wilkolampshade absolutely zero intimacy. I'm extremely lucky if he hugs or kisses me as he leaves the house. It's so sad you're right because genuinely all o want is to be close to him and feel the connection I'm craving. I often think I 'give' him all that spare time for himself and in return I'd love what I 'need' to be met, some tlc, attention and love. Sad

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coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 16:29

@LittleOwl153 I can imagine his weekends being too precious with gaming and sports to want to waste time with the children, awful isn't it

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WellLarDeDar · 16/09/2021 16:30

Have you thought about couples counselling? Maybe it's just stress from having a new baby? As it seems it's all come to a head in the past 12 months as things were presumably good when you conceived? You sound like very different personalities but that's not necessarily a death sentence for your relationship. Do you want to try and save the relationship or is there no going back for you? That's probably the first thing you need to be clear on.

AryaStarkWolf · 16/09/2021 16:32

It doesn't sound like there's much chance of you two working it out from that post, it seems like there's nothing to actually "get back" at all

Loudestcat14 · 16/09/2021 16:33

There's no point dwelling on the warning signs that were there when you got to together, it's the here and now that matters and basically he's a kidult who is play-acting at being a family man when it suits him. What's more, his actions tell you he's never going to change. Insisting the kids are in bed out of his way and booting you out of the front room so he can game is so selfish! It sounds as though he wouldn't react that badly if you ended the marriage because he's already checked out of it, so do yourself and your DC a favour and make the break.

coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 16:34

@WellLarDeDar I 100% want to do something like couples counselling, I so want him to change and to want to spend time with me instead of his 101 other hobbies. I will suggest it, I know he will say he hasn't got spare time, he won't want to if it takes up any more of his time. I think maybe the obsession with time to himself is because he's gone back after furlough and is working hard as well as having new baby and toddler but it's not right is it?

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dilmor · 16/09/2021 16:38

OP I feel you! I'm in the same boat. Dp generally spends all day every day in the bedroom away from me... little convo, only intimate when he's drunk - it's a shambles!

VictoriaBun · 16/09/2021 16:38

Ok , so I hated him on your first description , as he had no redeeming qualities.
I guess doing all the cooking ( How does that happen if he wants the kids in bed by the time he gets home ? ) And the shopping , is a bonus.
If you sat down with him and asked , if he was happy with his life , What would he answer ?
What would you need to change to improve your life ? Could you discuss that ?

coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 16:41

I wondered whether maybe he is adhd? Maybe just a stab in the dark but he seems to want to be on the same level but just can't be, he seems to always 'know' the expectation but just not be able to go through with it? I don't know.

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coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 16:42

@VictoriaBun he comes hone from work and then cooks dinner whilst I'm upstairs putting the children down. It's a control thing, he's very into his nutrition and would hate to hand the control over - which suits me as I hate cooking 🤣

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WellLarDeDar · 16/09/2021 16:42

It's definitely not right, you definitely deserve to be treated better. Maybe he's not coping well and is spiralling and it's translating into him being an asshole? (Wouldn't be an excuse to treat you like crap if he was though.) The best you can do if you want to make it work is to try and be honest with him about how you feel (the good and the bad) and try to find out what he feels and what he wants and try to initiate a way through the problems together. Then even if he disappoints you and and it turns out to be the end, at least you tried. Sucks when people you care about treat you like shit, all you can do is the best you can. Xxxx

EmeraldShamrock · 16/09/2021 16:45

You're crazy putting up with him.
You made a mistake marrying him, lots of people do, it's fine, don't stay with him as a punishment for the mistake.

He has the lifestyle of a single man.
He has repeatedly shown you who he is.

Anonymous48 · 16/09/2021 16:50

[quote coffeealldayandnight]@VictoriaBun he comes hone from work and then cooks dinner whilst I'm upstairs putting the children down. It's a control thing, he's very into his nutrition and would hate to hand the control over - which suits me as I hate cooking 🤣[/quote]
So he's not cooking for the kids then, is he? He doesn't do "all" of the cooking in that case?

sst1234 · 16/09/2021 16:50

OP, you are unreasonable for trying to change who he is. He has been this person from the beginning. Not a great catch, but consistent nevertheless.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 16/09/2021 16:52

Get rid-life will be so much easier without your grown up baby to pander to.

Ghostsintheshelf · 16/09/2021 16:53

I also hate him just from your description. Sounds like a spoilt little brat who thinks his "charisma" give him free reign. Don't call yourself a nagging wife. It isn't your fault that he won't pull his weight. I do think your marriage is over though, and you don't want to model this as a relationship to your kids.

Aquamarine1029 · 16/09/2021 16:54

How do you think counselling would help anything? The two of you are catastrophically unsuited for each other. You made a huge, huge mistake in marrying him, and that's it really. You ignored every single red flag and every gut instinct you had and forged ahead. The outcome is no surprise surely?

Just fully admit to yourself that aside from having your children, this relationship has been a massive error, and then just let it all go. No more feeling daft, guilty, whatever. Just let it go and end the marriage. Don't spend the rest of your life like this.

HollowTalk · 16/09/2021 17:02

Exactly what @Aquamarine1029 said. There's no point in counselling - you're not a couple who will ever be suited. If you separate, he'll be forced into taking on some responsibility for the children. You can do your shopping online. You don't have to live with this ridiculous manchild - you can't change him, so don't bother trying.

coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 17:11

@Anonymous48 it's hilarious that I didn't even consider him cooking the kids tea. Haha. Will respond to others later, very interesting responses ans very much needed xx

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OverTheRubicon · 16/09/2021 17:21

My ex used to talk a lot about 'wasting time'. It was only after he moved out that I realised, during long relaxed mornings just reading books and pottering at the park with the DCs, that for him, family time was mostly 'wasted' time.

My ex has become better since splitting, and better as the DCs get older and share more interests with him. But ultimately, if one person doesn't get much or any pleasure from time with their spouse or family (or far less than they get from partying or gaming) I don't think it's a hurdle you can yet over.

Wilkolampshade · 16/09/2021 17:25

Well what's that saying OP?
"Someone else's 'wants' shouldn't outweigh your 'needs'" or something like that....Confused
It truly is a sad situation as I honestly think you might be better off separating for a bit. There just doesn't seem to be any love coming from him does there? Surely that's the end of it. Heartbreaking for you. Flowers

kgov1 · 16/09/2021 17:26

Clearly there is some intimacy if you gave birth not long ago. It does sound like you need to tell him how you're feeling and if you can't sort it, get a divorce.

Thing is, he has not changed from what you say and is the man you chose to marry with all his faults.