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Husband feels like a housemate....

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coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 16:19

I put in AIBU topic i couldn't find a topic on relationships. Anyway, thanks to anyone who reads as I really need to just rant. And aibu to be stressing?

My husband and I got together in 2013 on a dating app. We met, he wasn't my type at all. Many of things I valued (hard working, ambitious, successful, grounded) suddenly seemed irrelevant and I was enamoured by his flirtatious and very winning and strong personality (he is more 'spur of the moment', excitable, well travelled, fun, the life and soul of the party who everyone loves type who doesn't believe in planning or saving etc). At the time I KNEW he was the 'risk' as opposed to finding a more sensible option, I was cautious and worried but somehow allowed myself to swept up in the excitement and he has a great family and heaps of close friends who I am very close to and I loved that. I admit fully that I was keen to settle down and really wanted to find someone. Eeak. Makes me feel stressed just admitting thatBlush

So I committed, he had won me over with endless surprises, outings, declarations of love. I knew his values were so so different to mine but I was convinced thrrr was enough to make it work and you guessed it, it's all come to a head.

When we moved in together in 2016 I was shocked at the amount of wild nights he would go on, coming in at 4am whilst I had to get up for work (professional career with lots of very serious responsibility). It quickly became clear that he wasn't going to stop the nights out (innocent boys fun nights with beer and the like, I'm not suggesting he has ever been unfaithful). He would do sports for 5 hours on the weekend and spend hours gaming. Really putting not much effort into the relationship and definitely not much of a talker, or one for affection, intimacy, romance of any kind. We started to argue more as we got less and less close. I was begging for some attention and time! However, I wanted to get married and wanted a family as a mid 30s woman. He proposed, to please me I guess? I don't think he would have otherwise. I'm not entirely sure how we managed to make it that far. We used to argue like cat and dog. We got engaged, bought a house (against his will because buying a house is too much of a responsibility in his words) and many times we 'almost' broke up. A particularly fun argument was the night we got engaged where he told me to fuck off because I suggested he didn't drink the fifth whisky. Who am I to say who was right or wrong but as you can see, our values were never in tune. All the while though I just kept going, I adore his family and sidelined all the rest.

We now have children. He adores them, is the ultimate fun dad when he cba!! However he no time for me, we don't have any connection whatsoever, no intimacy, barely chat, we argue when the kids aren't around and I've become a horrid version of myself - the nagging wife. His sports still happens for half a day a weekend, he socialises (however, much much more calmly now) and still would spend every spare minute gaming if he could. We are arguing more than ever. I hate it. I wish he was more driven, more ambitious, more pro active with the house, gave me the time I wish I deserved and which I am pretty certain would help to reconnect us, but I genuinely am not sure there ever was one. I think I only have myself to blame. I knew who I was marrying and of course he hasn't changed! I now am just in a situation where I'm feeling lonely and resentful of all the time he spends doing things he would rather do than spend time with me. I'm annoyed at our finances and his resentment at me being on maternity leave (which he says regularly). I'm annoyed he 'wants the kids in bed' for when he gets home so HE can have his evenings free and how he criticises my parenting when they are up slightly later, I'm annoyed we can't afford holidays yet he goes for weekends away camping with mates and has a football season ticket, I hate his love for gaming and the nee consoles that appear, I want to move house but the diy on our current place will never get done unless I do it whilst with the children buzzing around my feet. He puts me down and just feels like a stranger. I only gave birth a few months ago and it's endlessly been that HE feels suffocated, HE needs time to himself, HE needs his weekends to do his own thing because he's not on maternity leave having all the time to 'swan around'. He blames me constantly for any slight negative - the house is messy, he's tired or grumpy because of me, why do I do xyz, he needs the living room
For the 100th night in a row to have time to himself gaming. He now just seems to hate me for asking him to step up his responsibility, and he doesn't want to. It's crunch point. I don't see it ever changing. What next? I know it's my own fault.

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coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 17:32

@kgov1 without too much detail, my toddler is two and a half and we conceived the baby one our one and only intimate moment since Blush

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coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 17:33

I feel so awful on the children because essentially I went ahead with creating them despite knowing the potential car crash that could ensue with their dad. What was I thinking?

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ElspethFlashman · 16/09/2021 17:36

kgov they may have last been intimate a year ago! Having a baby doesn't mean anything when pregnancy is 9.months long!

I don't think the relationship was a mistake. You've gotten 2(?) kids out of it when you were in your mid to late thirties. That's priceless. And makes it worth it.

However the mistake would be knowing how incompatible you are and trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Your kids are so young that it won't be traumatic for them - they won't even remember a split. And by the sounds of it you have enough of a career to fund childcare.

I cannot imagine he's going to be much of a co-parent but you never know. But you two really can't keep this up. You're both miserable.

Notaroadrunner · 16/09/2021 17:38

@coffeealldayandnight

I feel so awful on the children because essentially I went ahead with creating them despite knowing the potential car crash that could ensue with their dad. What was I thinking?
It's done now so try to make the best of a shit situation and keep things as amicable as possible. If you seperate now they will be too young to remember a time when you were all together and will soon hopefully get used to a new normal. Will your husband be good at having them 50/50 or EOW? Can you financially afford to seperate now? There really is no point trying to make this shambles of a marriage work. You could both move on to find wonderful partners who will be better for you.
BuffySummersReportingforSanity · 16/09/2021 17:41

I'm not sure there's anything else to do now but split. You're fundamentally unsuited, you always were, you can't go back and have your children by someone else, so all you can really do is recognise that this isn't working and never will, split up, and do what you can to make for effective co-parenting.

waterrat · 16/09/2021 17:42

Your description of your relationship reminds me of my parents. My mum swooned for my dad despite seeing clearly that he was a selfish party man. He became bitter and complained if being trapped. The broke up but I often wonder how they ever ended up together.

Don't beat yourself up. Half of all marriages end in divorce. You made those decisions without seeing how he would react to parenthood.

Tbh I agree with the comment that counselling can't fix the fact that a couple have wildly differing values. But it might help you part more amicably.

waterrat · 16/09/2021 17:42

Also agree better for kids if you split now.

MyMushroomsInATimeSlip · 16/09/2021 17:45

@HollowTalk

Exactly what *@Aquamarine1029* said. There's no point in counselling - you're not a couple who will ever be suited. If you separate, he'll be forced into taking on some responsibility for the children. You can do your shopping online. You don't have to live with this ridiculous manchild - you can't change him, so don't bother trying.
If they separate he will not be "forced" into anything. He can do as little as he wants.

I see this repeatedly on here but there is no way to make an uninterested parent step up if they chose not to after separation

Aquamarine1029 · 16/09/2021 17:54

@coffeealldayandnight

I feel so awful on the children because essentially I went ahead with creating them despite knowing the potential car crash that could ensue with their dad. What was I thinking?
To repeat what I said before... Let it all go. Beating yourself up is pointless, and you've committed no crime, anyway. You were hopeful, desperate for a family, and had rose coloured glasses welded to your face at the time. It happens.

Do what's right now, for yourself, your husband, and your children. None of you will he happy should this marriage continue.

MiddlesexGirl · 16/09/2021 18:03

You loved him. There's nothing wrong with that and wanting children with the man you love.

What is his take on the lack of sex? Is he fine without it? Does he shun any suggestions of sex?

coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 18:46

I just am not sure I can 'share' the babies ans be away from them for whole weekends. It would DESTROY meSad

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Bella43 · 16/09/2021 18:47

You can only go forwards, not backwards OP so please don't beat yourself up about the past. I've spent years doing this and have now come to the point where I have to accept that I couldn't possibly have predicted what my (now ex) would've been like as a husband and a father. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

What matters most is the here and now. Do you love your partner? Can you see a future together? Having children is so hard. I don't think anything can prepare you. Hope you figure something out. Good luck OP.

Aquamarine1029 · 16/09/2021 18:49

@coffeealldayandnight

I just am not sure I can 'share' the babies ans be away from them for whole weekends. It would DESTROY meSad
The odds of your useless husband wanting the children for an entire weekend, all on his own, are less than zero. It just isn't going to happen, he's not arsed to be a decent father.
EmeraldShamrock · 16/09/2021 18:57

The odds of your useless husband wanting the children for an entire weekend, all on his own, are less than zero
Exactly.

BrendaBubbles · 16/09/2021 19:27

I see this repeatedly on here but there is no way to make an uninterested parent step up if they chose not to after separation

Both parents can’t just entirely reject the children..

The odds of your useless husband wanting the children for an entire weekend, all on his own, are less than zero

Oh sweet summer child.. wait until he finds out about how child maintenance is calculated! He will change his tune.

Aquamarine1029 · 16/09/2021 19:32

Oh sweet summer child.. wait until he finds out about how child maintenance is calculated! He will change his tune.

Maintenance that he will refuse to pay, and there's nothing to force him. Men like him never live up to their responsibilities.

coffeealldayandnight · 16/09/2021 19:33

@BrendaBubbles how is it calculated?

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Guineapigbridge · 16/09/2021 19:38

I genuinely think counseling will help you both understand each other better.

ThinWomansBrain · 16/09/2021 19:45

I'd expect a housemate to do 50% of work and tasks Hmm

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 16/09/2021 19:48

@coffeealldayandnight

I feel so awful on the children because essentially I went ahead with creating them despite knowing the potential car crash that could ensue with their dad. What was I thinking?
I did this Don't beat yourself up. Time to pick yourself up and make the best of it.
CloseYourEyesAndSee · 16/09/2021 19:49

@coffeealldayandnight

I just am not sure I can 'share' the babies ans be away from them for whole weekends. It would DESTROY meSad
No it wouldn't. It really wouldn't.
CloseYourEyesAndSee · 16/09/2021 19:50

@BrendaBubbles

I see this repeatedly on here but there is no way to make an uninterested parent step up if they chose not to after separation

Both parents can’t just entirely reject the children..

The odds of your useless husband wanting the children for an entire weekend, all on his own, are less than zero

Oh sweet summer child.. wait until he finds out about how child maintenance is calculated! He will change his tune.

Fathers can't reject the children? Hmmm what now?
CloseYourEyesAndSee · 16/09/2021 19:51

[quote coffeealldayandnight]@BrendaBubbles how is it calculated? [/quote]
The more time you have them the more the NRP has to pay

AliceW89 · 16/09/2021 19:51

I 100% want to do something like couples counselling, I so want him to change and to want to spend time with me instead of his 101 other hobbies

Couples counselling isn’t about getting the other person to change. It’s about seeing if two individuals with their own distinct personalities and values can work together as one unit. It may involve give and take, but fundamentally if you go in to it hoping to get a new husband out of it you will be disappointed OP.

Glssr195726113493 · 16/09/2021 19:59

@AryaStarkWolf

It doesn't sound like there's much chance of you two working it out from that post, it seems like there's nothing to actually "get back" at all
I agree with this. It’s never been good, so what would counselling achieve? He’s always been this person, and in your self-confessed desperation to be married and have children, you settled for this selfish, entitled man-child. He won’t change. Counselling isn’t about making people change.

I think you’re going to have to go it alone. Sadly I don’t think he’d have much interest in seeing the children very often. How many children do you have? Would you manage?

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