not to beleve in all these jobs

[Orangejuicemarathoner]

Supposedly there are thousands and thousands of vacancies, but if you actually look, most are agencies. You don't so much apply for a vacancy as get lured in to sign up for an agency. They might or might not then put your name forward for something, and it might not be suitable if they do.

And most of the jobs that are not actually just imaginary fronts to help an agency get your details on file, require ownership of a vehicle.

AIBU to believe that there are actually far far fewer vacancies than the news headline figures are suggesting.

I would guess 10-20% at most

My dd 17, got a job really quickly during the summer, in hospitality. We do need to pick her up after a late shift or she needs to get a taxi.

Supermarket like student works as they are available Christmas and Easter. Butbi don't think they need them so much over summer. If your kids apply this Christmas, and work Easter, the supermarket will have hours for established workers next summer.

I see an awful lot of jobs advertised locally, however they require complete flexibility, minimal hours and pay minimum wage. I can see why many people wouldn’t want to apply to be honest.

The biggest local authority in this region is advertising all sorts of jobs. Library assistants, teaching assistants, social workers, housing workers, apprentice roles and management posts.

I'm interested to know why you think recruiters want candidates for jobs that don't exist?
Recruiters deal in clients and would rather have one candidate to put forward for a job rather than hundreds on their books who they don't have anything for.

I've seen multiple threads on MN recently from those claiming not to be able to find a job or that their DCs can't find jobs.

My Facebook feed is full of job ads, shops with signs up like the 80s as someone said upthread. My local co-op has had to close 2 hours earlier for a period of time as they had no staff.

I was in a Tesco Express the other week and the kid manning the self service checkouts was ridiculously rude, scruffy, really couldn't give a shit. I remarked to DH at the time that you know it's an employee's market when Tesco are tolerating staff like that. He wouldn't have got through the door 10 years ago.

I think the whole thing is brilliant and hopefully will lead to better wages and worker conditions.

Stupid bloody government. UK has an ageing population, we either need more children to fill jobs (slow process) or immigrant labour. They cut us off from Europe, now we are stuck with labour shortages.

The vacancies are real.

Jobs are often not in the same places as the people looking for work - e.g. Lincolnshire had lots of EU seasonal workers. Then they voted for Brexit. Now they have lots of unharvested produce.

There are hundreds of vacancies in my area.

Lots of lower paid and lower skilled roles, plus lots of well paid trades and driving type roles. Not much white collar work though you'd have to go looking for that, rather than there being adverts in windows/fb etc.

A family member who is taking a year out to care for a relative keeps getting offered a job nearly everywhere she goes, just from chatting to people at tills.

Loads of businesses will shut unless we allow free movement of labour again. Brexit was so stupid! If you voted for it, thanks so much.

There are loads of jobs out there at the moment. Not necessarily the hours, pay or flexibility people want though.

There must be a lot of vacancies in the hospitality industry. I can honestly say that I haven't been in one restaurant or cafe recently that isn't advertising one or more job vacancies.

Loads here too, DIL finished her PGCE in June and walked straight into hospitality in a naice hotel even though she said she could only work until September when she started her first teaching post.

She was put front of house too (she did have previous hospitality experience) too even though she would have taken housekeeping if required.

@lannistunut

Loads of businesses will shut unless we allow free movement of labour again. Brexit was so stupid! If you voted for it, thanks so much.

Covid hasn’t helped tbf, oh and I voted remain not leave.

@Banani

There are loads of jobs out there at the moment. Not necessarily the hours, pay or flexibility people want though.

Also no pension, no progression, zero hours shit contracts.

@SpeakingFranglais no one said covid helped anything but if you think the food rotting in Lincolnshire isn't the absence of EU migrant labour, you're wrong.

Covid just sped up the Brexit effect.

There are more jobs in my sector than I’ve seen for years. Some of this is unrelated (the after effects of all graduate recruitment stopping for years after the 2008 crash for example) but the pandemic, lockdowns etc seems to have prompted quite a lot of people to reassess their lives and move into other things or take early retirement.

I’ve just been onto my local shopping mall’s website and counted 124 job vacancies on their site.
Only about 20 were seasonal (Christmas) but the majority were permanent.
The most I’ve ever seen on there before is about 30.

@LadyCatStark

Every single shop, pub and restaurant is hiring around here. There are jobs for those that want them!

Here too. Professionally, we have many vacancies - all requiring specialist qualifications -,but we are carrying about 40% vacancies nationwide in my department.

Well we, along with the rest of London and most of the UK, are desperate for vets and vet nurses. We currently, in the East London branch, have only three where we usually have nine. We've been trying to recruit for months with no luck at all. Some practices in London have had to close because of lack of vets. Most others are restricting what they do and not taking new clients.

I don't know about other sectors but vet practices have probably more vacancies than vets employed. And as it seems to be largely to do with Brexit more than Covid, there is very little light at the end of the tunnel.

There are loads of jobs but the majority are low paid. It might be better not to work than to take one of the lower paid positions.

@lannistunut

Loads of businesses will shut unless we allow free movement of labour again. Brexit was so stupid! If you voted for it, thanks so much.

What we had was a low wage, low security job market propped up by government benefits and cheap imported labour.

@Claraboochuffing how will the jobs be filled and by whom?

Brexiteers were excellent at identifying problems but the EU was not the cause and Brexit was not the solution. Germany, or Scandinavian states for example do not have this issue. Europe was not responsible for UK political choices over labour laws.

Furlough should end by the end of September - it is insane it has gone one this long - and the pool of people needing work should expand but it remains to be seen whether those with the right skills are available.
Our benefit system is too generous to some and it does not encourage people to take up jobs that make them even slightly better off.
Some people have become lazy through being protected from the realities of having to go to work to earn a living. It becomes a habit to sit at home and get money without any effort.

I’ve been recruiting for about 7 roles for 3 months now, for professional roles working from home, so location / driving not important. We’re paying top of the market rates and still can’t fill roles fast enough.

Vets are very well paid, and yet there is a huge shortage. Even if we double the amount of vets we train, starting now, it will be about six years before it makes any difference. A hell of a lot of pets, (and other animals) will suffer in the meantime.

Brexiteers have no fucking answers to how to get out of this mess.

Look at the post about shortages of vets and veterinary nurses above. That was flagged pre-Brexit. Same with nursing and healthcare generally.

As Rees-Mogg said, there may be benefits in 50 years.