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94 replies

crackeroncrack · 09/09/2021 14:51

A few years ago I moved in with my DP. We'd been together for a few years before that.

He has this odd unspoken arrangement with the LL where they both take the piss basically. The rent is significantly lower than the going rate for this type of property in this central area. The LL (has many properties) does no upkeep whatsoever. All the fixtures and fittings are crumbling away and between DP and LL things keep getting brushed under the massively aged carpets.

Just btw, I have made a load of effort since I moved in to improve things, do various upgrades and all the rest of that. In real life I ask people about this and they say, just get the work done/do the work and then invoice the LL. Well hohoho they would not like that, it would take months of bloody back and forth to even get a conversation going and quite frankly I think if you rent then you're paying to opt out of the responsibility of owning. I get the impression this LL wants us to have all the cons of owning without any of the pros...like this actually being our place which it is not.

Last year during lockdown a serious fault occurred in the flat. We did not cause this. I got a tradesperson out to look at the issue and said I would pay him upfront with my plan being to then chase LL for the money. He said fine and we discussed how the problem was urgent and if left unattended would cause much more damage potentially to properties other than ours.

Between DP and the LL they farted, faffed and arsed around and then the guy contacts me and says that since the situation is serious he needs the owner of the property to OK him doing the work, it would not be ok for me to simply pay him. He tells me this has not happened and he will be taking other work.

I had to absolutely rage my arse off at DP to get him to ask the LL about this. By the end I think they were both quite upset because the situation was worrying but eff effing me!

Anyway there is loads of stuff broken in the property now. The cooker has just packed up. I ask DP about it and he starts with "owww did you put a fork in the pan, sometimes that helps...."

It's broken, mate.

I'm just ranting because I have nowhere else to. I want to move. DP agrees to and then starts all this vague crap with me. I said I would move and he could stay here if he wanted to, he got really upset.

I am going to move. DP is actually a good person but somehow gets sort of stuck on things, This "deal" between him and the LL is one of those things he has just got stuck on. They both basically have pissed me off to fuck and back.

We've just had a huge barney and he is audibly contacting the LL. He says I am being horrible. If it was just the cooker I would get that but the whole place is knackered.

I am stuck between him not wanting change and the LL not being arsed.

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TokyoTen · 09/09/2021 16:48

I'd move you to a decent place- way too much hassle. And don't overlook the fact that DP is showing his true colours of a can't-be-arsed die hard procrastinator. When he gets upset then you will get blamed.

misskatamari · 09/09/2021 16:51

Just move. Alone. Your DP sounds bloody useless! I would seriously have lost so much respect for a grown adult who behaves like this

crackeroncrack · 09/09/2021 16:53

@LegoCaltrops The LL is certainly not complying with the rules.

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crackeroncrack · 09/09/2021 16:55

@EvilPea saving and buying is the plan. I know what you mean about someone else benefiting, I'm not a petty person but more and more I just think this is about my effort and other people's convenience now.

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crackeroncrack · 09/09/2021 16:56

@LaetitiaASD

The landlord - I'm sure - has responsibilities that he cannot escape... unless by the consent of the tenant.

It really is simple, landlord and DP see it as a win win - you need to lump it or move out.

You've put it very succinctly there.
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WhereYouLeftIt · 09/09/2021 17:01

[quote crackeroncrack]@girlmom21 sorry I missed the other part of your post as I'm so wound up. Financially it's hard to say but overall I think it would just even out.[/quote]
It would still be worth it if it cost a bit more. You'll save precious time and your blood pressure will get better too.

Just leave him behind, he and the landlord sound made for each other.

Gothichouse40 · 09/09/2021 17:03

Move out and leave him to it. If you don't, this will be your future for the rest of your life.

CorrBlimeyGG · 09/09/2021 17:03

The arrangement works for your partner and the landlord. You're the odd one out I'm afraid, if you want something better/ more expensive you need to move elsewhere.

GoodnightGrandma · 09/09/2021 17:05

Don’t get the rage, just move out.

Redjumper1 · 09/09/2021 17:09

If you are not happy with the set up move out. I have heard of lower rent but then you maintain well but that is usually updating painting, repairing broken cuboards. It wouldn't usually extend to replacing a cooker. Sounds like you want a legit set up which is fair enough but your DP is happy with the messy arrangement. Take it or lump it is harsh but that is basically it.

Plumtree391 · 09/09/2021 17:10

You've been there a few years paying lower than market rent.

Are you anywhere near having the deposit for your own home? I would have thought that was the logical next step. I presume you don't have children.

XelaM · 09/09/2021 17:10

@Stircraazy

"There's a body under the floorboards - both complicit in different ways, and one is holding this knowledge over the other - hence no workmen allowed in ."

Love this Grin Mystery solved

tunnocksreturns2019 · 09/09/2021 17:11

The next question is, would he lift a finger in a house you jointly owned? Or would everything still be up to you? Throw a couple of kids into the mix and it would be a bigger nightmare than now.

Have a good think. In the lovely well-maintained flat you are renting, whilst eating that nice dinner you cooked just for yourself in that perfectly working oven, a fork in each pan Grin

crackeroncrack · 09/09/2021 17:14

@tunnocksreturns2019 haha that's the safest place for the forks at the moment!

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MatildaTheCat · 09/09/2021 17:14

You should bear in mind that DP has no issue with living in a broken shithole. This won’t change and if you remain together he’s never going to want to spend money on a nice home, upgrades or anything that’s non essential.

I’ve a friend who moved into her home 30+ years ago with it very much needing a new bathroom. Guess what? It still needs that new bathroom. It’s no way to live.

Move out and enjoy a nice living environment. And report shit LL to the authorities. Not having safety certificates is a crime.

billy1966 · 09/09/2021 17:19

@tunnocksreturns2019

The next question is, would he lift a finger in a house you jointly owned? Or would everything still be up to you? Throw a couple of kids into the mix and it would be a bigger nightmare than now.

Have a good think. In the lovely well-maintained flat you are renting, whilst eating that nice dinner you cooked just for yourself in that perfectly working oven, a fork in each pan Grin

Great point. These men living in a mess for years, don't suddenly morph into house proud men.

They are used to living in dumps and their standards are very low.

Beware OP, they are NOT fun to live with!

Maddison12 · 09/09/2021 17:20

Landlord is breaking the law if you don't have a gas safety check every year. Electrical safety one should be done every 5 years.

AcrossthePond55 · 09/09/2021 17:21

@crackeroncrack

I hope you don't mean 'saving and buying' jointly with him! If you do you're going to end up paying for any and all repairs by yourself because he'll say they're 'not necessary' or you'll be chasing him up for his 'share' to which he'll say "I'm happy with the way XXX is now, I'm not paying for repairs/a new one". He's either cheap, lazy, or both!

Move out. I'd rather pay market rent and know my issues will be addressed by the landlord.

rwalker · 09/09/2021 17:23

DP and LL happy with agreement your not ether put up with it or find somewhere else to live.

You can demand repairs and brought up to better standard but obviously there would e a rent increase .

endofthelinefinally · 09/09/2021 17:23

I would be walking away from all of it tbh.

Monestera · 09/09/2021 17:24

Your DP and LL have an arrangement that works for both of them. Why are you fighting the tide on this?

Anniegetyourgun · 09/09/2021 17:26

Your DP must be amazingly adorable if you can bear to carry on living in these self-inflicted conditions after this length of time.

crackeroncrack · 09/09/2021 17:26

@Monestera because the cooker is knackered and it needs replacing.

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AccidentallyOnPurpose · 09/09/2021 17:27

Are you 100% sure it's a landlord/tenant situation?

Chikapu · 09/09/2021 17:28

Did you not know he was living in a shithole when you moved in?