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For wanting to leave a WhatsApp group?

84 replies

WhatsAppDilemma · 09/09/2021 11:59

I’m prepared to be told I’m being unreasonable and petty but I really hope I’m not!

I am in a group of 4 friends. We’ve been friends for 15 years and used to be very close.

I was meant to get married last year but we postponed due to covid, and ended up having a micro wedding. One of the friends let me down quite a bit over both my weddings, and ended up pulling out 2 days before the micro wedding using covid as an excuse (despite regularly posting on her Instagram stories about other weekends away, visits to pubs, etc etc). She never made any attempt to make it right and that really hurt me so our friendship has pretty much ended. Don’t want to drip feed but happy to provide more details if it helps.

The other two were really disappointed with her behaviour too, but have recently started to talk properly. They didn’t fall out with her over it...she just stopped talking to them for a while for a reason that they didn’t know either. But because they’re all getting close again, the WhatsApp group with the four of us is being used again. I don’t engage at all, because I don’t really want to engage with her.

How petty and immature would I be to just leave the WhatsApp group we’ve had running for around 10 years? AIBU in doing so? I could just mute it I guess but I can’t help but sense the other two friends are trying to get it back to normal, and I have no interest in doing so. I know it leaves them in a tricky situation but I guess they always would be. And leaving the group would essentially be a massive FU, which I’m conscious makes me look immature!

OP posts:
lljkk · 09/09/2021 12:04

Why not mute it?

Best not to burn bridges in life.

LolaButt · 09/09/2021 12:11

So you basically want the little note in the group that says “x left the conversation”. You want to flounce because you’re annoyed with her.

Whether your annoyance is justifiable is a question only you can answer. But leaving the group looks like attention seeking in this scenario, rather than just telling her she hurt your feelings.

Crunchymum · 09/09/2021 12:44

I think drip feed is necessary!!!

What happened?

Seems like to want to punish your other friends for not cutting out "wedding friend" too?

PuppyMonkey · 09/09/2021 12:48

I’d need more details before voting. She pulled out due to covid - doesn’t sound too bad so far.

TakeYourFinalPosition · 09/09/2021 12:49

Mute it and then archive it, and you won’t see it, but you’ll have it there to go back to if you ever want to.

GroggyLegs · 09/09/2021 12:51

Sounds to me you're angry (rightly so) and need resolution with ex-friend - a flounce will bring it to a head.

But you can do that without involving your other friends, and it will look petty

Be a big girl & meet/zoom/call shit friend. Get all those hurt feelings out & move on.

LagunaBubbles · 09/09/2021 12:52

Is it too difficult to talk to her about what happended?

BeetyAxe · 09/09/2021 12:52

You’re going to cut off your nose to spite your face. You will be the one who ends up pushed out if you do that. Stay in the group, be your best self and rise above. Yes it might be hard to stomach them being all pally but the alternative is you being pushed out.

tedsletterofthelaw · 09/09/2021 12:52

Can you just mute the group and start a different one with your other two friends?

Avocadodo · 09/09/2021 12:53

Just archive it. It will stay hidden now and you never have to look at it again.

WomanStanleyWoman · 09/09/2021 13:01

Mute it, then invite your other two friends for drinks or dinner via another message. Use that thread to contact them instead. If they make a point of asking about the other group, just say that you muted it because of the situation with your ex-friend, but obviously you don’t want to lose touch with them.

A flounce is asking to be noticed, and creating more drama.

takehomepay · 09/09/2021 13:05

I think you’re right not to engage on that thread anymore.

But I agree with a pp, make a new group with the other two friends first, meet up with them and then leave the other group.

If you like your other 2 friends, don’t just let her have them.

Xiaoxiong · 09/09/2021 13:11

Agree with Groggy - leaving the group screams drama llama.

I'd message the friend and say "hey friend, I need to talk to you about stuff around my wedding - I felt pretty let down when you did x and y but I'd like to clear the air and understand why you did what you did, because from where I'm sitting I still don't understand why you pulled out of my wedding because of covid when you went on that weekend away and went to the pub that same weekend. However we've been friends for years so I don't like feeling like we're not right with each other. Can we talk?"

It depends on your relationship with the other two in the group but I might run the above message past them first to see what they think as well.

Xiaoxiong · 09/09/2021 13:13

Sorry I just saw you have no interest in getting back to normal/clearing the air. So ignore my post above!

Nearlyme · 09/09/2021 13:17

It depends, I think if you are willing to lose the other two friends. If we'd always met as a four I wouldn't be willing to exclude someone for missing a wedding.

WhatsAppDilemma · 09/09/2021 13:23

I already have another WhatsApp group with the other two and we’d been using that over the past year. They also have one with her (there’s various ones used for planning birthdays, holidays, etc) but I have no idea how often they use it.

I think @LolaButt has hit the nail on the head re my pettiness so that’s helpful! I know I need to have it out with her, but we sort of had it out last year, which I will get to, and she just gets extra extra defensive and you don’t get anywhere.

What happened was:

A few months before my original wedding, she told me she can’t come because it’s her mum’s birthday the following day. I was disappointed but didn’t fall out or persuade, just told her I really hope she can make it. The other two persuaded her to make it work by coming to both, there’s no reason why she couldn’t do both in one weekend considering they were on different days and only an hour to 1.5 hours apart from each other. When she said she can make it, I genuinely was over the moon and there was no bad blood.

We cancelled due to covid and after much oohing and ahhing were thinking of a small wedding on the other side of the country (where DH is from, his parents are elderly and we didn’t want them to travel) in a few months time. This was when weddings were limited to, I think, 20 people including suppliers. I told my friends that’s what we were thinking of doing and she messaged me the next day to tell me her and her husband won’t be able to come due to covid (even though he wouldn’t have been invited due to numbers).

Within days and over the next few weeks, her Instagram stories are filled with weekends away with other friends, and going to pubs and restaurants.

We decided to go ahead and I didn’t invite her. I didn’t update her either but to be fair she never once asked me about the wedding after she told me she can’t make it.

When she heard that we were getting married, she got really upset she wasn’t invited. I had a pre wedding party in my back garden which she was invited to. She then “had it out” with me that she wasn’t invited to the wedding. When I told her how much it hurt that she immediately bailed on me but happily went out and about with others, she got really defensive. In the end I told her if she can make it to the wedding, there is definitely a place for her, and I hope she can come to the pre wedding party. I also told her the numbers are limited to 20, including us and suppliers, so I need to know for sure. A few days later she came to the party but spent the entire time standing metres back at the edge of the garden (honestly, no judgment, she was allegedly worried about covid, despite regularly socialising with others) and then confirmed she could make the wedding.

Over the next few weeks I kept messaging her to see if she’s still ok to come. Each time, she said yes.

Two days before my wedding, she text to say she can’t make it because she’s worried about covid. I later found out from my other friends she had already decided this the week before but was hoping the government would cancel my wedding so she didn’t need to break the news. This meant she wasted a precious space at a wedding where we only had 13 guests, a place that could have been taken by extended family.

I got a short text on my wedding day to say congrats, and I never heard from her again, until 6 months later when she sent me a small gift. I should add that she got married the previous year and I spent over £1k on her - £700 on hen, £250 on gift and £100 plus on accommodation, dinners, etc. It honestly isn’t about the money but a £15 gift felt a bit like why bother.

I should add that what she didn’t know was that the reason we went ahead with the mini wedding was because I was pregnant. We announced it at the wedding and other than that, we kept the news quiet because DH and I were really worried it could go wrong. We barely told anyone I was pregnant so not telling her wasn’t a case of her being deliberately excluded. She only found out when I messaged to say thank you for the gift, which happened to arrive a few days before DS was born, so from her perspective, I was pregnant and didn’t tell her. I also know she’s having troubles getting pregnant.

Gosh, this sounds so immature but the whole thing really hurt me. Not the not coming to the wedding, but kicking up a fuss after saying she’s not coming, me pandering to her, her pulling out anyway and then get making no effort whatsoever to make it right.

OP posts:
Nearlyme · 09/09/2021 13:30

Tbh, that covers neither of you in glory.

Beautiful3 · 09/09/2021 13:37

No I wouldn't cut off your nose to spite your face. They're your friends too, don't leave the group. Just ignore that friend, or talk to her and see if you can both reconcile.

TakeYourFinalPosition · 09/09/2021 13:38

I'd agree with Nearly. Neither of you come out of that looking good in any way, and I'm not surprised that you're both hurting.

Mute and archive the group, heal a bit and see how you feel in a year's time.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 09/09/2021 13:41

Tbh, that covers neither of you in glory.

^^
I agree. And I’d like to know what form the ooohing and aaaahing took…

WhatsAppDilemma · 09/09/2021 13:42

@Nearlyme and @TakeYourFinalPosition

Can I ask why? I’m genuinely curious and would appreciate your insight.

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FirewomanSam · 09/09/2021 13:42

She does sound like she’s let you down a lot but I don’t think you’ve been entirely fair with her either.

I’m possibly projecting too much but I have suffered from crippling anxiety this past year, partly due to Covid, partly for other reasons… my friends know this and I’ve had to turn down some invitations when things just got too much. If someone looked at my Instagram they’d probably see pub trips and weekends away too, but they have no way of knowing that some of those happened on exceptionally ‘good’ days for me, mental health wise, and were far from the norm, or that some things I went to because I really really felt like I had to, and was probably sat there hating every second or even having a panic attack in the toilets shortly after the photo was taken. My point is that I don’t think it’s fair to look at Instagram and judge what your friend did or didn’t think was important compared to your wedding. A wedding is a very big social occasion and a long day, and quite different to a casual trip to the pub where you can leave whenever you want, or a weekend away where you might be able to have downtime whenever you need it.

Talk to your friend and air all this out, share how you’ve been feeling and give her a chance to explain before you cut her off completely.

WhatsAppDilemma · 09/09/2021 13:42

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

Tbh, that covers neither of you in glory.

^^
I agree. And I’d like to know what form the ooohing and aaaahing took…

The oohing and ahhing was between DH and I only. Trying to decide what to do.
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Shareandtear · 09/09/2021 13:44

OP in my experience weddings can bring old friendships to a head: from the three bridesmaids at my wedding a) one didn't bring a card or gift as she said she had had a bad back for a week so hadn't been able to get to the shops b) one didnt speak to me after I'd had children a few years later as she had fertility issues of her own and she said it made her feel too sad and c) the third one fell out with me just after my wedding because she felt I hadn't been around for her the year leading up to my wedding. All were long distance and v old friends but I just ended up feeling a bit shit about them all. I think my best friend had a bit of a point but she'd lived 2 hours away for a long time so hard to meet and I hadn't wanted to intrude while she had been ill so that was a miscommunication....

The point is I think there is something about a wedding that can bring friendships to a head sometimes. People can feel jealous / left out and also I have realised that most people don't care about doing things for others as much as we would like and I've realised that that is okay. The problem is when our expectations are too high that we feel disappointed. Just because you were so generous with your friend in this day and age it unfortunately doesn't mean that it will be reciprocated.

Time to make some new friends??

Jerseygirl12 · 09/09/2021 13:46

I’d mute too and use the other WhatsApp group to communicate with your other friends.
Re your wedding and the friend it sounds like six of one, half a dozen of the other.

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