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To think schools just won’t be able to stay open in the medium term

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Schoolgrand · 07/09/2021 18:13

In the medium term we are having thousands of people mixing from different households at a time of high community transmission and now we are hearing reports of an October lockdown. Aibu to think schools in their current form with no mitigation’s just can’t stay open in the medium term.

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toots111 · 07/09/2021 21:37

[quote MyDcAreMarvel]**@toots111* And they have had Covid with literally not a single symptom* yes and they missed a few weeks of school so others who would have had severe symptoms or died were protected.[/quote]
Yes and I am happy to do isolation when they have it and can infect others. But shutting entire schools irrespective of whether the kids have it or not can’t continue. And my kids aren’t likely going to be getting it again any time soon so why should they miss school? They have already missed too much!

Rosebel · 07/09/2021 21:38

I hope school stays open for the kids sake. I also hope they don't reintroduce bubbles. My DD2 had to isolate 4 times last school year even though she didn't have any symptoms.
Haven't heard about October but I think we really need to move on.

kowari · 07/09/2021 21:40

@Mycatcontrolsmymovements

I think, aside from covid, we will see children missing days of school as any cold now will have to be isolating at home until a PCR test result. My DS just missed two days owing to a cold, PCR back today and thankfully negative. I hate to think what this winter will look like.
I didn't think you had to test or isolate for a cold, only if you had one of the three main symptoms?
FourTeaFallOut · 07/09/2021 21:47

No. I don't think there will be another mass shut down of schools.

MiloAndEddie · 07/09/2021 21:50

I really, really hope they don’t close again. I was honestly close to breaking point the last time. It is not fair on the children.

TheVolturi · 07/09/2021 21:53

I really really really really hope they don't shut the schools again.

Payproblems · 07/09/2021 22:03

The problem is, are we happy to go through winter with no health care because that's what millions of covid cases means.

No working NHS.

CheesePleaseLoueese · 07/09/2021 22:09

@Confiscatedpopit

Christ, we really do need to move on. Enough now, children have sacrificed enough. You only get 18 years of being a child, all of us had ours, stop imposing this never ending shit on them!
ABSOLUTELY THIS
lljkk · 07/09/2021 22:11

Well said, @FfrothiCoffi

MarshaBradyo · 07/09/2021 22:11

@Confiscatedpopit

Christ, we really do need to move on. Enough now, children have sacrificed enough. You only get 18 years of being a child, all of us had ours, stop imposing this never ending shit on them!
Agree
Sobeyondthehills · 07/09/2021 22:16

I was thinking closing again wouldn't happen and then I read yesterday that the department of education said there was no plan for a circuit breaker and my first thought was fuck, they are going to do it. They are following the same line, leak to the press, deny and then do it with 5 hours notice.

I really hope I am wrong, our household cannot cope with another lockdown, mentally, physically or financially

ballsdeep · 07/09/2021 22:20

It's going to spread in schools more than last time because of the close contact rule.
As a teacher, my partner and children could all test positive. I could test negative on lft, then teach 120 children whilst waiting for my PCR result after the second day........ If it's negative I'm back in school until the 8th day where I could test positive and I've spread it everywhere.

I think if your household is positive, even of negative you should isolate

Peteycat · 07/09/2021 22:22

Finally! A thread where everyone (well most) are agreeing that this has to stop. Oh it definitely does. So happy the children are finally back to normal. We will keep it that way for them. Anyone who wants another load of restrictions and lockdowns do what you want. We can watch the children be happy and bright again.

Frazzled2207 · 07/09/2021 22:38

@FfrothiCoffi

Our school have said you will be required to isolate as a close contact until negative PCR test is received

Ours has too.

And who is a close contact? Whole class?
ICantFindTheBuffet · 07/09/2021 22:44

@Schoolgrand

In the medium term we are having thousands of people mixing from different households at a time of high community transmission and now we are hearing reports of an October lockdown. Aibu to think schools in their current form with no mitigation’s just can’t stay open in the medium term.
Bore off to the covid board and let the rest of us live our lives.
ICantFindTheBuffet · 07/09/2021 22:57

@Mycatcontrolsmymovements

I think, aside from covid, we will see children missing days of school as any cold now will have to be isolating at home until a PCR test result. My DS just missed two days owing to a cold, PCR back today and thankfully negative. I hate to think what this winter will look like.
My child was in today with a cold. I was in my office with the beginnings of the same cold. Other people in office with a cold. In what guidance does it say any of us have to isolate/get a pcr? If we were very ill we would stay home, as before covid. If we had the stated covid symptoms we'd isolate and test. I don't care how other people's covid started, only felt like a cold etc. If we dont have any of the 3 symptoms, we're bloody well going in! As we would before covid!!
safclass · 07/09/2021 23:10

Correct . Husbands (primary) school has a y6 child in, whose dad has tested positive. They are in class with 31 other kids so possibly carrying it in and sending into other homes. Staff are double jabbed. School are still working in bubbles but if a child tests poitive, only THAT child will be off, bubblez will NOT go down.

PeachesPumpkin · 07/09/2021 23:18

Unfortunately being double jabbed does not mean you won’t come down with COVID. There will be a lot of teachers/TAs off sick.

Internetio · 07/09/2021 23:25

@noblegiraffe
We’re in Wales. School is in charge of test and trace for school contacts and send out an email asking you to get a PCR and isolate until results and then email with the result. I believe the risk assessment is to only send multiple kids home for isolation if cases rise above 5 in a contact group, but then we don’t have bubbles and the kids mix with most of the year group and the wider school by travelling to different areas etc so I’m unsure what the actual plan is, but after a fair few positive tests today they were sending various individual kids home. I’m happy to keep them isolating until a negative test and if one’s got it, I will probably keep them all off as I’ll be home anyway with one and it seems a risk that’s not worth it- I’ve got year 1&2’s and they don’t get social distancing, for the sake of doing some work at home to not infect multiple other families and cause a bigger local outbreak in a rural community, it just annoys me that we’ve had a string of daily close contact notifications stemming from just 3 days back at school!

WhenSheWasBad · 07/09/2021 23:49

I don’t think there will be a lockdown.

Unfortunately I do think there could be some disruption over the autumn term. I know a lot of people who’ve been double jabbed but still caught Covid. Some have been slightly ill but no more than a cold. Others have felt utterly rotten for up to 2 weeks.

Plus there were very few colds, flu & vomiting bugs going round last year. General illness could be an issue. If a lot of teachers are sick it could mean classes are sent home.

Huge thank you to the NHS. Must be a nightmare going through this.

Moelwynbach · 08/09/2021 01:43

COVID is a weird beast husband has just had it. I shared a brew with him the day before, we had people to dinner the day before. I hugged and kissed him in his contagious period and our toothbrushes share the same pot. Ive not had it and neither did our five year old. We a bith double jabbed. There is no predictable way of knowing.

undermycatsthumb · 08/09/2021 03:21

Re the cold. In my part of Scotland (not sure about others) they are asking people to self isolate until negative PCR test if they have a runny nose or a host of other symptoms. However, only the affected individual has to self isolate and not the rest of the family. If one of the ‘main’ 3 symptoms then the whole family has to self isolate.

Am I reading right that in England kids are to go to school even if a family member has confirmed covid?

Lifeispassingby · 08/09/2021 03:56

No lockdown doesn’t mean no disruption to education though does it? It’s not rocket science really- DH has 5 kids in his class who currently have a parent/carer/sibling at home with COVID. Potentially those 5 test positive and have to be off school for 10 days, all at different points, along with others they have infected due to not isolating and others who have caught it elsewhere. Then staff catch it and there is limited staff or classes double up due to staff absence. Then children returning at different points, having missed different parts of work. And staff are supposed to teach 30+ Who have missed different days/times/sessions etc? And that’s not disruptive?!

AlixandraTheGreat · 08/09/2021 05:06

@Peteycat

Finally! A thread where everyone (well most) are agreeing that this has to stop. Oh it definitely does. So happy the children are finally back to normal. We will keep it that way for them. Anyone who wants another load of restrictions and lockdowns do what you want. We can watch the children be happy and bright again.

Happy and bright ... and ill, quite possibly, unfortunately

mellongoose · 08/09/2021 05:26

Keep kids in school FGS. No more disruption. Unless this thing mutates to escape the vaccine or it starts to make our kids seriously ill, just no.

Booster the most vulnerable and crack on.

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