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If you start work at 9 am, is it OK to walk through the door at 9 am ?

596 replies

mmhhhkkkk · 06/09/2021 18:26

Or is that a bit ' late ' ?

OP posts:
CallMeNutribullet · 06/09/2021 19:02

Work aren't paying you to be in the building. They're paying you to do a job and you should be ready to start the job at your start time.

It really surprises me how many adults don't realise this. Especially if you're providing a service. Are customers supposed to wait 5 minutes until you get logged into your till/phone etc? What if a colleague is finishing at your start time? Do they wait until you've stuck your stuff in your locker and sauntered over to the tills?

Benjispruce5 · 06/09/2021 19:02

Ready to work at 9.

ThinWomansBrain · 06/09/2021 19:03

depends how flexible you are, and the nature of the work

I managed a team where two people were actually ready to start at around 9.10-9.15.
One regularly worked a bit later if she had something to complete, or took a shortish lunch break if she was busy, The other one was packing up about a quarter of an hour before she was due to finish, often late back from lunch - and expected to spend five minutes doing her sodding make up at her desk FFS.
Second one didn't stay long.

londonrach · 06/09/2021 19:03

No, it's late...NHS worker....need to get changed into uniform then clean clinic down....got the dresses needed etc....

NewPapaGuinea · 06/09/2021 19:03

Setting up etc should be considered working

londonrach · 06/09/2021 19:04

Dressings not dresses.........that be fun ..here Mr Jones try this dress for size....

InkieNecro · 06/09/2021 19:04

In my opinion I would consider walking into the office at 9 fine. You have to boot up the company computer to do the company work and therefore should be paid for it as it is work. I'm aware I'm in the minority and that some people would take liberties so should come in early, blah blah blah.

Seems unfair for those that get all of their work done and just get more work piled on top of them because they don't spend work time roaming the office for a chat.

UnchainedMemory · 06/09/2021 19:04

If you start at 9am, you should be on site by 10 to 9. Arriving at 5 to 9 is running late, because you won't be ready to start work by 9.

londonrach · 06/09/2021 19:05

@NewPapaGuinea...lol...sadly my NHS I prepare in my own time...

SchadenfreudePersonified · 06/09/2021 19:07

@Marmite27

I’d say it was late.

It’s 9am at your desk, logged on and ready to work IMO.

This ^
Hoppinggreen · 06/09/2021 19:07

I wfh bit I get my cuppa, log on etc and at 9 at the latest I say hello to everyone on Teams. I don’t even have a set start time but I prefer to start at 9 or sometimes 8 if the dog wakes me up early for a wee

mynameisbrian · 06/09/2021 19:07

I cant stand folks that dont understand that starting at 9 means your their and ready to go.Not arriving and getting changed and having a coffee. its not difficult, you start work at 9 so get their on time to start working..FS

Wriggleon · 06/09/2021 19:08

Depends on the job, I would say its fine and I often turn up after my start time but I do my work and manage my own diary. Often the more senior you are, the more flexible your hours are.

listentomydeclaration · 06/09/2021 19:09

Your working day starts the minute you log into your computer and sit at your desk

However, it does annoy me that the working day never includes commuting, hence why I now have a job that is home based.

On paper the salary is less, but when you take out the time spent commuting, money on petrol and parking, I'm no worse off.

Twillow · 06/09/2021 19:12

Depends on the job. And whther you get paid enough to volunteer extra time. Firing up the computer or setting up your tools etc IS working. If you start at 9 and proceed to arrive then and make a cup of tea that's clearly out of orfer.

DocAutumn · 06/09/2021 19:12

If you are employed from 9 you can arrive at 9. You can set up at 9. If an employer wants an employee there and seeing things up from 8.45 they should pay them from 8.45.

SpidersAreShitheads · 06/09/2021 19:13

I think it depends on the job - some are much more time-sensitive than others.

If you're in a job where the phone lines open at 9am, you have to be there and ready to take calls. Customers can't be waiting 10 minutes with a ringing phone while Hilary makes a coffee and chats to Bernard about last night's Changing Rooms.

If it's not a job that's time sensitive, I honestly couldn't bring myself to give a shit if someone arrived a few minutes early or bang on time. I would only care if they were a general piss-taker. Honestly, we're all adults - if there aren't customers waiting, you're really going to penalise someone over a few minutes? I can't get my head around what a ridiculously dictatorial approach this is - and I was a senior manager before I became self-employed.

Similarly, if they were doing something and didn't finish until 5:06pm compared to an official finish time of 5:00pm, as a manager I wouldn't expect to owe them 6 minutes. Flexibility cuts both ways imo.

Beautiful3 · 06/09/2021 19:13

I used to get to work 30 minutes early. But would wait in the canteen until 10 minutes before my start time, before walking into the office. As I didn't want to be collared into starting earlier than my paid time.

Ishecheating1 · 06/09/2021 19:16

Depends on your work. My contracted hours are 9-5 but i rarely start at 9, mostly 9.30 or so. As long as my work is done, noone cares

Postwhisk · 06/09/2021 19:16

I haven’t read previous comments but if you start at 9am then you need to be ready to start your job at 9am. Call centres, logged in ready to take first call at 9am, retail on the shop floor in position for 9am etc. Walking through at 9am, you’re not going to be ready to actually start work for 5 or 10 minutes. So you’d be late in my eyes…

5lilducks · 06/09/2021 19:16

I think if you need to use a computer to do your work you need to switch it on at 9 the latest. If it takes x amount of time to get logged in thereafter , it's the employers problem not yours.

maddy68 · 06/09/2021 19:18

No. You should be ready to start at 9

Cuddlemonsters · 06/09/2021 19:19

You need to be ready to work. However in most organisations if you arrive at 9am and then are totally on form throughout the day and don’t mind staying late to sort something out, then nooone will be too upset at you being a bit late. If you aren’t great at your job or generally seem a bit ‘work to rule’ then people will pick up on it.

Jconnais1chansonquivavsenerver · 06/09/2021 19:19

Clearly depends on the nature of the job and the culture of the organisation for which you work.

MaggieFS · 06/09/2021 19:19

You need to be ready to start at 9am, so if any taking coat off/ getting a coffee/ changing clothes then that needs to be done beforehand but anything else e.g. waiting for a computer to boot up, would be ok after 9am IMHO, as long as you'd pressed on by 9am.