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Walked between caravans

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Tevion28 · 05/09/2021 01:09

Hi currently staying on in my friends holiday home and me and dp wanted to walk down to the river and took a quick route between 2 caravans and a lady came out and shouted very aggressivly do not walk between the caravans and slammed her door shut so was we in the wrong.

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unlikelytobe · 06/09/2021 18:33

Maybe you weren't just nipping through quietly but yawping and gawping? Maybe she's a territorial harridan? Probably best not to do it again. How much further is the walk round?

Altah · 06/09/2021 18:38

You weren’t being unreasonable at the time, because it was an honest mistake. That could happen to any of us. Lots of people have told you that it is the rules at campsites. Now I know, and I will avoid making the same mistake, so thank you.

You are now being a bit unreasonable as you justify why you did it, or minimise how annoying or disruptive it may be to the other party. Maybe it doesn’t justify how they spoke to you, maybe it does - but that doesn’t matter. Take it on the chin, and dont do it again. In the nicest possible way :)

tommyhoundmum · 06/09/2021 18:39

I've stayed in chalets quite a lot and have never been required to observe that rule

April506 · 06/09/2021 18:39

Good god. Some people. We often stay in caravan parks and cut through the vans if needed...we often cut through to admire other people's caravans too ... most folk don't kick off like this, I think that poor lady has issues

AliceAbsolum · 06/09/2021 18:40

I'm a digital nomad, currently on a site in croatia and yeah people are very territorial. Bloody Neanderthals so we are.

2 German teenagers walked through my "garden", I looked shocked and horrified in DHs direction. But unfortunately he was busy doing the laundry inside the van.

AuntMargo · 06/09/2021 18:41

No, it is not their garden, walk through as much as you like. Like parking o.s someones house on a public road, not her property !

2Rebecca · 06/09/2021 18:46

I think the garden comparison is daft. Gardens have drives, fences and hedges and it is obvious a garden is private property. I never realised the area round a caravan was private. We used to stay in a friend's static caravan in Wales in the 70s and there was just grass mown by the site between the caravans and kids on the site just walked and ran all over. When we rented the caravan we were never told there was a bit for 2m around the caravan that was our garden to look after. I think caravan sites need to clarify the no walking between caravans rule. I've also helped at an orienteering event in a caravan site and the site owner never said people couldn't run between the caravans.

SirChenjins · 06/09/2021 18:48

@2Rebecca

I think the garden comparison is daft. Gardens have drives, fences and hedges and it is obvious a garden is private property. I never realised the area round a caravan was private. We used to stay in a friend's static caravan in Wales in the 70s and there was just grass mown by the site between the caravans and kids on the site just walked and ran all over. When we rented the caravan we were never told there was a bit for 2m around the caravan that was our garden to look after. I think caravan sites need to clarify the no walking between caravans rule. I've also helped at an orienteering event in a caravan site and the site owner never said people couldn't run between the caravans.
Try telling that to the many posters on MN who are fed up with people trampling over their gardens because they didn’t realise it was an actual garden. It’s usually quite obvious that the bit outside your door is your pitch - it’s often where people park their cars or have their seating area or leave their bikes etc.
WithLoveFromMyselfToYourself · 06/09/2021 18:52

We had some people walk between our tent and our family members tent next to us when we were camping a few years ago. We had set it up to be clearly a joint hangout area and yet a few people felt it was ok to walk between with their washing up up to four times a say. It was annoying as our privacy felt invaded (as much privacy as you can have when camping) and it set my dog off every time. In the end we just put up some wind breaks to block the non path off. They only had to follow the actual path past my relatives tent and they would have been at the same point.

^ - it depends how much place you are commandeering for your clan gathering. We’ve done a lot of camping and just because you are in a big group it doesn’t entitle you to annex the land between and around the pitches of your chums/ family. It can feel quite intimidating for other campers and make access to common facilities more difficult.
Twice I’ve seen these enclaves set up to deliberately incorporate wooden picnic tables and benches provided for communal use by the site; as in in the middle of a fucking circle of wagons in the style of the California land rush complete with fuck-off windbreaks.

That is not on.

RamblingJenny · 06/09/2021 18:53

Probably happens often and you got caught in the crossfire of a build-up. Don’t take it personal OP!

Butchyrestingface · 06/09/2021 18:54

@Tevion28

I'm actually staying on the park in my friends holiday caravan
In that case, I would simply comply with what is asked shouted so as not to cause any friction for your friend whose home you're staying in. End of.
StormzyinaTCup · 06/09/2021 18:54

we often cut through to admire other people's caravans too ...

Is that the polite way of saying we like to have a good gawp through the window?😉

jenkel · 06/09/2021 19:01

We go to mils caravan a lot, you are not allowed to put anything outside your caravan on the grass, no plants, pots anything, you are only allowed stuff on the decking and the decking is not supposed to exceed a certain size, certainly at mils caravan you have no rights on the grass, but I have also been shouted at when walking between caravans.

Dnaltocs · 06/09/2021 19:05

Now you know the rules.

ShingleBeach · 06/09/2021 19:24

@WithLoveFromMyselfToYourself

We had some people walk between our tent and our family members tent next to us when we were camping a few years ago. We had set it up to be clearly a joint hangout area and yet a few people felt it was ok to walk between with their washing up up to four times a say. It was annoying as our privacy felt invaded (as much privacy as you can have when camping) and it set my dog off every time. In the end we just put up some wind breaks to block the non path off. They only had to follow the actual path past my relatives tent and they would have been at the same point.

^ - it depends how much place you are commandeering for your clan gathering. We’ve done a lot of camping and just because you are in a big group it doesn’t entitle you to annex the land between and around the pitches of your chums/ family. It can feel quite intimidating for other campers and make access to common facilities more difficult.
Twice I’ve seen these enclaves set up to deliberately incorporate wooden picnic tables and benches provided for communal use by the site; as in in the middle of a fucking circle of wagons in the style of the California land rush complete with fuck-off windbreaks.

That is not on.

I think it is fine on sites where you ‘pitch where you like’ rather than on set pitches, and where there is loads and loads of space.

I sometimes deploy bunting to stop people walking through our pitch. It may look all Twee and innocent but underneath that fluttering gingham lurks a GetOrfMyPitch vibe Wink

Gilly12345 · 06/09/2021 19:45

It sounds like you are in the wrong here, the woman didn’t wed to shout but I do think you were being lazy and intruded on their space.

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MeandT · 06/09/2021 20:16

Lovely to see @PyongyangKipperbang out of retirement, but sadly on this occasion, utterly on the wrong side of history!

While it is tempting to think that 'grass is grass', in most instances, caravan and camping sites allocate PITCHES. That is an area of grass, not a postage stamp the exact footprint of the caravan or tent you happen to have there. As the variety of posts on this thread has shown, many sites do explicitly state that the whole pitch is for the exclusive use of the owner/leaser/subletter/holidayer/overnighter, very occasionally, they don't.

However almost all sites, whether tents, caravans or (im)mobile homes have paths, 'roads' and required firebreaks. These are usually shown on a map which is given to every visitor on arrival.

Were you given a map like this (by the site or your friend), @Tevion28? Did it show a path to the river? (Usually a grey bit, arcing around long lines of pitches and accessing areas like riverbanks at convenient, if not necessarily the shortest, points.) If there's a map like this anywhere on site, you are CLEARLY in the wrong, I don't see how anyone could interpret that just tramping across a bit of group which is CLEARLY PART OF A WHOLE PITCH is ok, regardless of flowerpots, fences, or 'geroffmyland' signs.

Manners seem to be in short supply! (also by the lady who shouted, but she's probably fed up of visitors not taking their cue from maps and the fact that trailing through less than 2 metres from someone's window on a large, open, green site is clearly NOT the same as walking down an urban pavement in front of a row of terrace houses).

Hope you take your cue & find your open space manners for the rest of your holiday, you'll find everyone a friendlier bunch as a result, even when you make innocent mistakes!

Tevion28 · 06/09/2021 20:19

No map or any signs around the park

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Tevion28 · 06/09/2021 20:24

Well I never expected my thread to be this popular but hey now in the 12th page Grin

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190190tnt · 06/09/2021 20:31

Well I never knew this! Over the years, we have had many caravan holidays with Hoseasons, everyone was walking around, in between, behind the caravans, I have never seen any rules to say you shouldn't be doing it, and when we privately rented caravans, the owners never mentioned this ...

Beverley71 · 06/09/2021 20:32

I own a caravan on a very popular park and I do walk between vans. I know people don’t like it but they actually only have the 2ft around the van so as long as you aren’t within touching distance of the van then I say fair game. Take no notice

ellyeth · 06/09/2021 20:37

I hadn't heard of that either. She could have mentioned it to you nicely, explaining that it is common practice on sites not to walk between caravans. I think shouting at you was unnecessary and rude.

If that's how people behave on caravan sites, I'm glad I don't go caravanning.

MidsummerMimi · 06/09/2021 21:01

Seems like a rule that is universally understood by the static caravan people, but not obvious to others.
Do you actually get a defined zone around your caravan?
Do you have legal rights to this area and to the spaces between the caravans?
Is this clearly marked?
Is there obvious signage to prevent accident trespass?
I would like to be sure that I had addressed all the above, before I committed a crimsl offence, by verbally abusing members of the general public.